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Obama: "I'm Concerned About a Loose Nuke Being Detonated in Manhattan"- prep for a false flag?

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posted on Mar, 25 2014 @ 12:28 PM
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I dunno,

My money wouldn't be on New York,

Maybe Obama home state of Corruption though, perhaps the city that should be worried is Chicago.


There have been casual references to a Nuke in Chicago in a few recent fiction examples for no apparent reason other than just cause.

BBC show about colonist, Continuum I believed had a reference as well.

I dunno, ever since lone gunmen called a plane flying into New York skyscraper, being hijacked by remote to start a new war for the Military industrial complex, Months before 911.

Lets just say im Paranoid.
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posted on Mar, 25 2014 @ 12:29 PM
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~Lucidity
Pretty sure that just about everyone's concerned about a loose nuke being detonated in Manhattan. Oh since about February 26, 1993, and probably even before that. I would watch this with interest but also not make too much of it. Good to note it.


you may be right Lucidity...it could be a deliberate misdirection on several levels

Im thinking, if serious:
publicity will maybe stop the plan



posted on Mar, 25 2014 @ 12:30 PM
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hey ben you know what they say
"just because you are paranoid doesn't mean someone isn't following you "



posted on Mar, 25 2014 @ 12:31 PM
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reply to post by Danbones
 


Yep, some things you think are coincidences turn out not to be coincidences.

It's good to know that the dis-info agents have to at least start coming up with logical arguments to ascertain their position.



posted on Mar, 25 2014 @ 12:33 PM
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reply to post by Mamatus
 



Totally agree man.



posted on Mar, 25 2014 @ 12:33 PM
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Danbones
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hey ben you know what they say
"just because you are paranoid doesn't mean someone isn't following you "


Or monitoring your Internet history, chat logs, Phone records, email, etc...



NSA employees reading this, Im talking about you just so we are clear...


Yep, no need for Paranoia under the watchful eye of Big Brother NSA keeping us safe from rouge NUKEs in our cities, Isn't it great we have such a protective government looking out for our best interest.



posted on Mar, 25 2014 @ 12:39 PM
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Mamatus
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These types of analogies did not used to be a problem when I was growing up or as it sets, with most other Presidents. So either Americans are becoming to stupid to too understand a simple analogy or the Presidents words are being twisted in the media.

This President has proven to me that no matter what your politics are, being only half white in the White House is a serious problem.


Oh come on! pulling the race card is getting so old, this subject and his comment have absolutely nothing to do with his racial makeup.

The word "more" implies that the OP is indeed correct as well as the headline. Obama is "more" concerned about loose nukes than a Russian threat - true statement?

Couple the statement with Nuclear Wargame covering an event in a financial capitol and one could conclude there is a serious threat enunciated by Obama in his comment.

Kind of interesting when its well known that many serious events in last decade or more were during or just after practice exercises dealing with hypothetical situations that just happened to turn out being true.



posted on Mar, 25 2014 @ 12:43 PM
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I'm an ocean away and have no skin in the anti-Obama fight so as a neutral...

I totally agree that while he isn't saying he fears an imminent nuke attack, and is rather choosing to use it as a hyperbolic comparison, it's still a very, very strange choice.

Even if it isn't deliberately chosen to instill fear in the listener (which is debatable) linking the two so closely in the same sentence is a cheap and easy NLP trick.




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posted on Mar, 25 2014 @ 12:45 PM
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Phoenix

Kind of interesting when its well known that many serious events in last decade or more were during or just after practice exercises dealing with hypothetical situations that just happened to turn out being true.



Certainly a possibility, cause or effect though.


Is it, they get actionable intel, that says a credible threat, with these scenarios, and so they drill, in hopes of minimization of causality and damage.

OR

Is it something, far, far, worse.



posted on Mar, 25 2014 @ 12:46 PM
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If Putin stops at Crimea, I'll agree with you and propose a toast to history Not repeated

Until some time has passed with the new status quo? I look at this as likely just starting. Nowhere near over.

Putin got this too easy not to be tempted at taking more.

Time will tell and our President makes policy on assumptions I consider very very reckless.



posted on Mar, 25 2014 @ 12:47 PM
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Springer told me to be nice to people or else. So right now I am gonna bow out of this as it frustrates me to no end watching people twist logic to make a BS case.

As for the race card? Is it ANY secret that race has been an issue with this President? Perhaps I could tell you of how many times my Aunt and Uncle were called N-lovers while walking the Obama campaign trail in Arizona......

Race with this President is a huge issue and to deny it or not factor it in to an argument is simply embracing ignorance in my opinion.



posted on Mar, 25 2014 @ 12:47 PM
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obama is very good at NLP, one almost has to figure everything he says is filtered thorough an NLP technique



posted on Mar, 25 2014 @ 12:51 PM
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No disagreement from me on that one Wrabbit. I really do think that Putin is a SOB and I have real fears as to where the USA will be in a few years. There is no doubt that China and Russia and gonna give the USA a major black eye. I do however think they are smart enough to have figured out how to do it via the BRICS Nations and economic war.

Nukes are bad, Putin knows it, the world knows it. Our Communist neighbors are working a long term game plan and it will hurt. Will it lead to war? Maybe. I just do not think we are there yet.



posted on Mar, 25 2014 @ 12:51 PM
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IF race is an issue then how did he become president?

The race card comes in handy when rational thinking goes out the back door.



posted on Mar, 25 2014 @ 12:53 PM
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not to take sides in the exchange, but
no prob M
no need for the nukes to go off on my thread, lol


I wish i could be a such gentleman as you exemplify and unlock my jaw and go calm down sometimes
with out having a mod do it for me


Obama and co and their opposites really know how to hit everybodies hot button at times
hopefull im wrong and its just N-L-P and not N-U-K
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posted on Mar, 25 2014 @ 12:59 PM
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benrl, that's the million dollar question as we view all through snippets of information assembling a puzzle through fog and smoke drifting across our vision.

The Ukraine has possibility of financially unhinging the connected world wide economy - in a devilish way it could be impetus to have something drastic happen on wall street in the near future giving great cover to the den of thieves and their string bound political brethren.

I still cant adhere to MH370 disappearing in the southern Indian Ocean - is it connected? don't know but nothing really surprises anymore.

The Israeli embassy closings due to a labor strike is unprecedented in scope and has interesting possibilities surrounding it.

Netanyahu's calling on military to be ready for a strike on Iran the same week is of note.

And now we have Obama expressing concern about nuclear attack on New York.

Still to much fog to surmise anything but circumstances lately are just getting plain weird.

Coincidence or plan? that is the question.



posted on Mar, 25 2014 @ 01:01 PM
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Wrabbit2000
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If Putin stops at Crimea, I'll agree with you and propose a toast to history Not repeated

Until some time has passed with the new status quo? I look at this as likely just starting. Nowhere near over.
.


Wrabbit You at all familiar with Anatoliy Golitsyn?

He was a KGB Agent that defected, he wrote 2 books about the Soviet plot to take on the US inderectly.


New Lies for Old[edit]
In 1984, Golitsyn published the book New Lies For Old,[13] wherein he warned about a long-term deception strategy of seeming retreat from hard-line Communism designed to lull the West into a false sense of security, and finally economically cripple and diplomatically isolate the United States. Among other things, Golitsyn stated:

"The 'liberalization' [in the Soviet Union] would be spectacular and impressive. Formal pronouncements might be made about a reduction in the communist party's role; its monopoly would be apparently curtailed."

"If [liberalization] should be extended to East Germany, demolition of the Berlin Wall might even be contemplated."

"The European Parliament might become an all-European socialist parliament with representation from the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. 'Europe from the Atlantic to the Urals' would turn out to be a neutral, socialist Europe."

Angleton and Golitsyn reportedly sought the assistance of William F. Buckley, Jr. (who once worked for the CIA) in writing New Lies for Old. Buckley refused but later went on to write a novel about Angleton, Spytime: The Undoing of James Jesus Angleton.[14]
The Perestroika Deception[edit]
In 1995 he published a book containing purported memoranda attributed to Golitsyn entitled The Perestroika Deception which claimed:
"The [Soviet] strategists are concealing the secret coordination that exists and will continue between Moscow and the 'nationalist' leaders of [the] 'independent' republics."
"The power of the KGB remains as great as ever... Talk of cosmetic changes in the KGB and its supervision is deliberately publicized to support the myth of 'democratization' of the Soviet political system."
"Scratch these new, instant Soviet 'democrats,' 'anti-Communists,' and 'nationalists' who have sprouted out of nowhere, and underneath will be found secret Party members or KGB agents."


Basically, this has been a KGB Plot the entire time, Goes the Theory, its interesting to say the least.

Who worked for the KGB again?



posted on Mar, 25 2014 @ 01:03 PM
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I guess we are cursed to live in interesting times...



posted on Mar, 25 2014 @ 01:05 PM
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I agree with your post in part. HOWEVER, "I more worried about the sun not coming up tomorrow than I am worried about xxx" is a very common saying here in America. "more worried about a nuke in Manhattan" on the other hand is not common at all. Why would the President use such vocabulary in public? Such sensationalism? Who wrote those words for the POTUS to say?

This is damn unnerving to say the least IMO.



posted on Mar, 25 2014 @ 01:07 PM
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BenRl, You are actually spot on. I written about what my buddy at the Rand Corporation told me years ago was going to happen. Nearly everything he told me to watch for has happened. China and Russia have planed on devastating the USA economically for quite some time.

The wall coming down and China opening up to manufacturing was all part of the plan. We are not there yet but I am starting to think it is not far off.



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