MH370 reported crash in India Ocean west of Perth, too many inconsistencies of official report?

KUALA LUMPUR - Malaysia announced on Monday night that Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight MH370, which disappeared on March 8 while travelling from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, was lost in the southern Indian Ocean.

MAS informed families of the 239 passengers and crew members that the plane was assumed to have crashed with no survivors.

Source:
www.straitstimes.com...

This was the official report by the Malaysian PM, the reason for this announcement was because of debris sighted by satellite imagery and subsequently spotted by Australian and Chinese planes. Pings which were sent from the plane transmitted every hour indicated that it could have flew a northern or southern arc. Inmarsat a British global network satellite company said that using a technique based on the Doppler Effect they were able to narrow the route down as the southern track.

Source:
www.gmanetwork.com...

These findings are inconsistent with earlier reports where the Malaysian government said that the plane was deliberately hijacked, and that the transponder and the ACARS was turned off by someone with the knowledge to avoid detection by authorities. The plane also flew at a weird altitude of 39,500 ft possibly to avoid collision, planes only fly at round numbers like 39,000 and 40,000.

Then there was the revelation that the plane turned back and flew west of Malaysia and towards the Andaman sea which was picked up by Malaysian military data.

Compare this two map:





The first was reported by military radar and Thailand had also shared that they picked up something in their military data to support the first flight route.

Source:www.slate.com...

Another finding that support the first flight route would be the discovery of flight simulator software in the pilot's home which has five Indian Ocean runaways in Maldives, India and Sri Lanka.

Source: www.themalaymailonline.com...

These findings are inconclusive that the pilot was the hijacker, but it is still very strong evidence. The new spin provided by the media is the theory proposed that there was a fire onboard which caused the plane's systems to be shut off with the crew fainting and had the plane flew autopilot towards west of Perth before crashing which seems highly suspicious given of the deliberate measures like flying at the weird altitude and both Malaysian and Thai radar picking up an unknown aircraft. However, this was seem to be promoted as the official theory to give a closure to this case.

Source:www.telegraph.co.uk...

What do you guys think?

reply to post by icyboy771z

Operation TruthOut - Flight 370 Update from St. Germain
All right, Folks, we are here with you, we are working for you, and everything is underway. You may have thought that the Dark has overtaken the process of change on Mother Earth, but it is not true. In fact, we are making wonderful progress in a much broader way than we had expected to accomplish at this juncture.

It was difficult getting the economic Shift underway, but as we have worked with countries around the world, they have begun to see the phenomenal potential for a world which is restructured to stabilize and manage the money supply and the currency valuations in a brand new way. It is beginning to dawn on the leaders of integrity in every country of the world, large and small, that a reasonably valued currency backed by gold, precious metal and other real resources will provide a new environment for world trade. By managing the money supply, it will also absolutely preclude manipulation of the currencies - a trick that has lined the pockets of the wealthiest while stealing from the people.

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The overwhelming sense of being controlled, manipulated and misused left everyone on edge, feeling suspicious and paranoid. This was an accurate response to the sadistic Overlords who cared nothing for the people they were robbing of the most basic needs and comforts. Ironically, the places in the world where the most civil conflict and chaos has occurred are often those places where people are most in touch with their rage against oppression.

The Shift which is coming is addressing the unrest and the oppression at its roots. The license to steal the world's wealth and hoard it in the hands of a few "filthy rich" families has been revoked. The structure which will take the place of the corporation which was the U.S. government will return not only the United States but all the world to a place where good people can come forward to build a world where all can experience the freedom to work, dream and prosper without having to struggle against an overwhelming force holding them back.

You are by now all too familiar with the mystery of missing Flight 370. I wish to assure you once again, in concert with Ashtar, our Supreme Commander of the Galactic Federation fleet, that the passengers and crew are alive, well and very happy in a very beautiful and secure location. We are not going to reveal their exact whereabouts because there are so many now in active pursuit around the globe, but we will tell you they are in no danger. The passengers are very pleased to be part of the historic Operation TruthOut. Our joint efforts will prepare the world for Disclosure of the enormous fleet of airships from many star systems that are here to help humankind in this time of dramatic change.

The passengers, by unanimous vote, have expressed the wish to remain with us until such time as the media of the world agree to discuss and present in its entirety the description of their rescue, as described by Ashtar* following the event. There has been a black-out of news coverage concerning the obvious radar recordings, available to the public, which show the galactic ships, disguised as airplanes, zipping across the ocean at top speed, changing direction in mid-flight, hanging suspended for long moments, then disappearing entirely just before the airliner itself vanished. This obvious evidence of "anomalous" radar sightings can only be disregarded by the most careless or the most malevolent among you.

What evidence have you seen for the search across the world's oceans? The ping of the transponder was indeed picked up as the plane was being transported within the airship. It only ended when the Galactics decided to end the transmission to protect the safety of the passengers.

You see, in your eagerness to see them released, you have not taken into account that they are now eyewitnesses to the very technological mysteries your cabal/oppressors have hidden from you for more than a hundred years. They have seen our powerful and efficient ships which run on simple transformational processes, in complete harmony with the Universe. We have no fossil fuels, no polluting elements at all. We live in perfect comfort and joy, and we have shared our comforts and our information freely.

There are a number of well-educated members of the group who are working to understand and memorize the design and manufacture of free energy technology machines which will free all of you from dependence upon oil, gas and even any form of mass electricity generation. So you see, they are walking time bombs from the point of view of the cabal, and would be targets for attack should they be presented to the world without complete protection. However, their large numbers allows for security, just as your own efforts to copy and store Keshe's inventions will protect all involved.

We have also enlightened the group of eager passengers about the true condition of the Earth at the present time. They know names, historical facts, and where to find the evidence to prosecute those living criminals who are standing in the way of Earth's progress.

So you see, this is not simply a group of airline passengers who need to come home to their families. They are citizens of the world who will bring their gifts to create the change you are all longing for. Their selfless dedication to the common good is truly an admirable service to their fellow humans, and their influence will be felt for all time. They will not return until their safety and the safety of their families can be assured.

This brings us to the update I will give you on the RV - the revaluation of currency and the progress we are making on that front. In the context of the serendipitous development of our partnership with the passengers, our expectations for the positive global effects of the Global Currency Reset has increased even more. Within days, the funds will be available to produce free energy devices for the entire planet if the Lightworkers who are receiving this blessing are able to combine forces, and the devices could be brought into use in a matter of weeks. Medical and agricultural improvements will be available with equal speed.

The apparent "delays" over the past few days actually involve the expansion of peaceful cooperation and increased protections to provide a secure environment for those who will be blessed by the revaluation event. We are working full speed ahead to dismantle the Federal Reserve and the IRS so that neither taxes nor non-disclosure agreements will be an issue.

The enormous group of souls who follow these messages have been energized by the work they are doing - to get the truth out to the media. This energy will carry the day; eventually, the sheer weight of numbers of requests and demands for coverage will find its mark, and a courageous journalist will succeed in breaking through the wall of silence to reveal the Truth.

I would like to address the issue of apparently contradictory reports from channelers who have brought messages from Ashtar, and also "Ashtar." Yes, there are seeming differences in the reports, but if you reach beyond the words, you will see there is no contradiction. For instance, a recent message through the one they call Matthew told of the passengers being taken to a very comfortable faraway "planet." Please, beloved ones, read with your eyes and ears and your hearts open, and do not harrass your dedicated messengers with messages of doubt and fear. Use your heartmind to determine which messengers are operating from a position of pure Love.

In the light of what I have told you about the security of the passengers, understand that our messages may have to be adapted a bit to the readership and the conditions on the ground. We are not ready for an assault on the passengers and their hosts. There are those on the planet who have advanced technologies which could allow them to pursue and attempt to capture the passengers for their own benefit. We are not looking to create a Galactic WWIII. We will do whatever necessary to insure the success of this mission and the safety of all involved, even if it means we must withhold certain information, or put out what appear to be conflicting details for a time.

All this fast-developing news is positive. The changes which arrive one after another will more than make up for the delays you have experienced. For the Greater Good of all, I appeal to you to continue in Faith to raise your vibration. It creates the powerful energy wave for us to ride, as you might say, and it will carry all of us, laughing and cheering, onto the Paradise beach of a completely new shore. We are in this together, Dear Partners, and your participation is crucial. You have new allies and friends working in concert with you, and the results are going to be astonishing!

Continue to send out your Press Releases, and use this message from me to alert the world to the reasons for the cover-up of information about the airliner and its passengers. The Truth is indeed stranger than fiction, my friends. Join with us to tell the world of our Operation TruthOut before another week passes. Together, we can make this glorious Shift into the New Golden Age a reality.

I offer you endless Love and my devoted service,
Your St. Germain

Ashtar's description of the rescue of Flight 370 by the Galactics: www.whoneedslight.net...

Transcribed by Kathryn E. May, PsyD, March 22, 1 pm, New York

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reply to post by icyboy771z


Funny how Brisbane had a emergency landing yesterday, (fire) Yeah sure!

And the other Malaysian flight emergency landing in Hong Kong

We are so stupid aren’t we, NOT

Merlyn2014
reply to post by icyboy771z

 

You are by now all too familiar with the mystery of missing Flight 370. I wish to assure you once again, in concert with Ashtar, our Supreme Commander of the Galactic Federation fleet, that the passengers and crew are alive, well and very happy in a very beautiful and secure location. We are not going to reveal their exact whereabouts because there are so many now in active pursuit around the globe, but we will tell you they are in no danger. The passengers are very pleased to be part of the historic Operation TruthOut. Our joint efforts will prepare the world for Disclosure of the enormous fleet of airships from many star systems that are here to help humankind in this time of dramatic change.

The passengers, by unanimous vote, have expressed the wish to remain with us until such time as the media of the world agree to discuss and present in its entirety the description of their rescue, as described by Ashtar* following the event. There has been a black-out of news coverage concerning the obvious radar recordings, available to the public, which show the galactic ships, disguised as airplanes, zipping across the ocean at top speed, changing direction in mid-flight, hanging suspended for long moments, then disappearing entirely just before the airliner itself vanished. This obvious evidence of "anomalous" radar sightings can only be disregarded by the most careless or the most malevolent among you.

What evidence have you seen for the search across the world's oceans? The ping of the transponder was indeed picked up as the plane was being transported within the airship. It only ended when the Galactics decided to end the transmission to protect the safety of the passengers.

You see, in your eagerness to see them released, you have not taken into account that they are now eyewitnesses to the very technological mysteries your cabal/oppressors have hidden from you for more than a hundred years. They have seen our powerful and efficient ships which run on simple transformational processes, in complete harmony with the Universe. We have no fossil fuels, no polluting elements at all. We live in perfect comfort and joy, and we have shared our comforts and our information freely.

This not a time to create a joke especially for the grieving families.

reply to post by shillhound


Right, because In Flight Emergencies never happen. Nope, certainly not. It had to be staged. I mean, there are only about 93,000 commercial flights around the world every day (and two or three times that if you add in private/business flights). It's unheard of for there the be emergencies in flight!

And it wasn't a fire, it was fumes in the cabin, which could have come from anywhere.

reply to post by Zaphod58


Emergencies do happen, but weigh in all the possibilites. Is it possible for a plane to fly 7 hours (This was concluded from the signal sent from the plane) after it caught on fire? Even if possible, what was the unknown aircraft that Malaysian and Thai military radar picked up if it did not flew that path?

There are too many holes left unanswered.

reply to post by icyboy771z


Yes, it could. If the fire was in the cockpit oxygen system, it would go out after the oxygen it was feeding on ran out. Or if it was in the electronics bay it would have gone out if the crew depressurized to fight it (which is what they should have done).

MH370 would show up as an unknown after the transponder went out. There is no way to get any data from it anymore.

icyboy771z
What do you guys think?

Sounds like its time that Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 has it own forum,,or atleast a Airline Disaster Forum,this could go on awhile ,,if we ever do find out what really happened,,,that way we would know what parts have already been debunked....

Zaphod58
reply to post by icyboy771z

 

Yes, it could. If the fire was in the cockpit oxygen system, it would go out after the oxygen it was feeding on ran out. Or if it was in the electronics bay it would have gone out if the crew depressurized to fight it (which is what they should have done).

MH370 would show up as an unknown after the transponder went out. There is no way to get any data from it anymore.

Even if it could, the flight paths were different. Have you taken a look at the two maps? Most likely you do not live in Asia and do not know the countries boundaries well but the first route which was picked up by military radar was way off course to the supposed crash site far off western perth.

reply to post by icyboy771z


Because the autopilot took it to various waypoints on the way to where it was programmed to go. Just because it's flying off course to end up where they said it wound up doesn't mean it couldn't turn at some point in the flight.

Zaphod58
And it wasn't a fire, it was fumes in the cabin, which could have come from anywhere.

thedailybeast.com

Malaysian officials have confirmed that a consignment of lithium-ion batteries was in the cargo hold of Flight MH370. “These are not regarded as dangerous goods,” said the CEO of Malaysian Airlines, Ahmad Jauhari Yahya, “and were packed as recommended by the International Civil Aviation Organisation.”

Could a fire in the cargo hold cause enough smoke to incapacitate the crew?

reply to post by Elton


Lithium batteries could easily create problems for both the crew and aircraft. At least three aircraft were destroyed by lithium battery fires, one of which crashed, killing both pilots on board (UPS freighter).

Zaphod58
reply to post by icyboy771z

 

Because the autopilot took it to various waypoints on the way to where it was programmed to go. Just because it's flying off course to end up where they said it wound up doesn't mean it couldn't turn at some point in the flight.

This explanation is possible, but I am just trying to keep an open mind in thinking of all the possibilities. The Malaysian government once said that the plane changing course was a deliberate act of hijack, and it was confirmed to be so. They also claim the way it flew was the act of a skilled aviator.

Now they say it is fire which caused the crash, and all the pilots and crew were dead/passed out and it flew on autopilot. This is so much in contrast with the earlier reports.

Just too many inconsistencies in my opinion.

reply to post by icyboy771z


The Malaysian government has too much interest in it being a hijacking. There is too much benefit in it for them if it did turn out to be one, and not a mechanical problem. So they are going to push the hijacking theory for all they can.

reply to post by Zaphod58


Five (5) fire trucks for fumes?

Don’t you think it is strange for the media to post up disinformation in regards to malfunctioning planes malfunctioning here in Australia and another Malaysian airliner’s emergency landing in Hong Kong?

It just makes the plunging into the ocean seem so plausible now doesn’t it???????

reply to post by shillhound


Yes. Because one of the causes of fumes COULD be fire. And if it is, you have absolutely no time to put it out. It's two minutes or so for cabin flashover if it is in the cabin. You always expect the worst with fumes in the cockpit or cabin, so that if it turns out to be a fire, you're prepared, and don't waste time getting out to the aircraft, and having people die because of it.

And no, I don't. They always hype routine in flight emergencies after a plane crash. Just like they hype the Russian planes flying near other countries. It sells better.

reply to post by icyboy771z


I know a very little bit about autopilot, you set your altitude and heading to follow your VOR beacons, right? What I do know a little more about however is the VOR beacons and false VOR beacon technology as applicable to countermeasures in bringing planes down in the wrong place. If the plane was on autopilot and set to follow VOR and ended up in the South Indian Ocean west of Perth, the only way that is going to happen is if there is a false VOR beacon on another plane MH370 was tracking/following. The altitude could have been set on it's own. I seem to remember, I'll neither confirm nor deny anything, that the Israeli's and Motorola were working on this exact technology.

I honestly can't see any other reason why the plane would be so far off course. The navigation system I believe not only uses VOR, but it also uses GPS and planetary magnetics (north/south poles). The only way to turn off the ancillary guidance systems I think would be through "fly-by-wire" programming or remote program injection and that would likely come out of Diego Garcia.

What I don't get is the motive and who stands to gain by this catastrophe? Unless of course the whole SW of Perth is a smokescreen for something else or it's a case of watch-the-plane, don't watch what we're doing over here with the other hand. In which case, is it about the Ukraine, new laws in the US or your country, is it something else???? I don't know but the whole thing stinks! They can track us with a $200 cell phone and listen to conversations 12,000 miles away, they can track every purchase we make and know more about our finances that we do, why can't they track a piece of equipment worth hundreds of millions of dollars with probably 200 cell phones on it?

Cheers - Dave

Zaphod58
reply to post by icyboy771z

 

Because the autopilot took it to various waypoints on the way to where it was programmed to go. Just because it's flying off course to end up where they said it wound up doesn't mean it couldn't turn at some point in the flight.

Again now, im thinking if the autopilot theory was real, why did it crashed in the remote area of western Perth? (It was very far off Perth) and the Australian government said it will take hours from Perth to reach the crash site using planes. There isn't any landing strip near the crash site, it is all deep sea.

So now the official theory is that the fire caused the plane to go autopilot first towards India, then change off course by the so called autopilot towards a very remote ocean area? Of course, these discrepancies aren't pointed out in the media.

Not buying any of it. There are so many inconsistencys and premature reports from the Malaysians. If this was picked up by the Malaysian military radar I am sure that they they would have known this at least a day after the plane went missing, but they want to report this now? Something happened and they are either covering their own asses or someone else's.

reply to post by Merlyn2014


Sorry....but that is just about the most ridiculous thing I have read on ATS in a long time