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Ukraine Leader In New Leaked Recording: 8 Million Russians In Ukraine "Must Be Killed With Nuclear

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posted on Mar, 24 2014 @ 01:04 PM
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While the NSA is busy justifying its spying of every American its existence thanks to famous Moscow resident Edward Snowden, its Russian counterparts have been busy intercepting even more phone Ukrainian conversations.

After a month ago a leaked phone call between US assistant secretary of state Victoria Nuland and the US envoy to the Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt confirmed that it was the US that was pulling the strings..
But the smoking gun, and where Putin once again shows just how masterful of a chess player he is, is the following statement by Tymoshenko, after asked, rhetorically, by her counterparty, "what should we do now with the 8 million Russians that stayed in Ukraine. ... she replies: "They must be killed with nuclear weapons."

Ukraine Leader In New Leaked Recording: 8 Million Russians In Ukraine "Must Be Killed With Nuclear Weapons"

Tymoshenko shows her real Fascist stripes in this conversation with a counterparty... Welcome to WWIII 2.0 where the US is backing the next Neo Nazi 'lite' group which thinks that the Final Solution for the extra Russians is to Nuke them...

Sorry, do not count me on this train... Nuland, Sen. McCain, and Tymoshenko can ride this fantasy out on someone else's Planet...

There are alot of interesting conversation bits in the attached RT audio conversation... like Tymoshenko saying that she will grab a machine gun and mow down ....Putin... it is worth a listen..

This is the Zerohedge article related to this ATS Forum post :
www.abovetopsecret.com...



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posted on Mar, 24 2014 @ 01:12 PM
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I'm sure all 8 million Russians aren't located in one group all together in the Ukraine so I don't see how she plans on nuking them? Also, nuking your own country sounds like a brilliant idea... Just a lot of useless words that won't be backed up with anything. Just more worthless saber-rattling
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posted on Mar, 24 2014 @ 01:15 PM
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Already posted and it isn't about nuking the Russians in Ukraine. It is about nuking Russian leaders.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

It has the supposed translation to the call.

Although I guess it depends on who is translating and how they translate it.

I see the video in your link is from RT, as that would explain the way it is written in the headlines.
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posted on Mar, 24 2014 @ 01:23 PM
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I just watched this myself and came here to see the discussion, I for one was shocked at how bloodthirsty these Ukrainians were. I am now glad more than ever that Crimea was able to escape the clutches of these people.

Who knows what would have happened to ethnic Russians if this " new regime ' were able to take over Ukraine without much media attention or without Russia's objections.



posted on Mar, 24 2014 @ 01:30 PM
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I just watched this myself and came here to see the discussion, I for one was shocked at how bloodthirsty these Ukrainians were. I am now glad more than ever that Crimea was able to escape the clutches of these people.


What does one expect, because you must remember the Ukraine gave it's nukes up for a guarantee that Russia wouldn't do what it did.

So I guess an armed incursion into Crimea was in the fine print that Ukraine just didn't read.

And that doesn't represent the whole of Ukraine.



posted on Mar, 24 2014 @ 01:33 PM
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I don't see any evidence backing this claim that it was said, and the person saying it denies saying it but did say the correspondence was real. Let's see the evidence, not an article that could have been created to cause turmoil. At least Snowden produced the documents.

Saw what appears to be a conversation on the other thread, I guess I should have read the other thread first as it contains a translation of the conversation.
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posted on Mar, 24 2014 @ 01:34 PM
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I thought Russia already had bases in Crimea ?



posted on Mar, 24 2014 @ 01:46 PM
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I thought Russia already had bases in Crimea ?


Well they do, but that doesn't give them free reign to take over Ukraine bases and the Crimea peninsula.

And that is one base not bases.

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posted on Mar, 24 2014 @ 01:57 PM
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This world is run by lunatics!!



posted on Mar, 24 2014 @ 02:01 PM
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I've been watching pretty closely and most of the Ukrainian bases were stormed by citizens, there are many videos of this. The only one where much military force was used was this last base where the Commanding Officer refused to leave. Many of the officers and soldiers said that Kiev had kept them in the dark about the whole situation and were just given orders to hold-out.
Vice News on YT is very slanted against the Russian control of the Ukraine, their series on these events is even entitled " The Invasion of Crimea ", and even they are having a hard time spinning Russian aggression. They have had a man on the ground this entire time, and it is almost funny watching him try to find anyone in Crimea against joining Russia. I would reccomend watching their series, it's pretty telling. The only soldiers he could ever find where sparsley scattered posts, and I must say they did a wonderful job of keeping the peace.



posted on Mar, 24 2014 @ 02:10 PM
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Fiery words financed by the west, the people of Ukraine matter nothing to these warmongers.



posted on Mar, 24 2014 @ 02:32 PM
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tsurfer2000h
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I thought Russia already had bases in Crimea ?


Well they do, but that doesn't give them free reign to take over Ukraine bases and the Crimea peninsula.

And that is one base not bases.

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Well if the people of the Crimea voted for it then it does give then the right to remove those in the army that are being paid by the Ukraine and do as they want on the peninsula.

The people have spoken and they voted for Russia and who can blame them



posted on Mar, 24 2014 @ 03:04 PM
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Who can know the truth these days?
I bet you can sample a persons voice,then mix it up to make said person say anything you want,but as you used the persons actual voice it will pass a voice analysis test.
They've probably been doing it for decades,well not probably.
Ah technology!
Its all for our benefit supposedly.
Haha..



posted on Mar, 24 2014 @ 03:18 PM
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tsurfer2000h
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I thought Russia already had bases in Crimea ?


Well they do, but that doesn't give them free reign to take over Ukraine bases and the Crimea peninsula.

And that is one base not bases.

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Well if the people of the Crimea voted for it then it does give then the right to remove those in the army that are being paid by the Ukraine and do as they want on the peninsula.

The people have spoken and they voted for Russia and who can blame them


Only 58% of the Crimean population is actually "Russian"........and the Crimean tartars boycotted the vote. People with pro-Ukrainian attitudes were beaten up, at least one was murdered. A whole 10 days was allowed before the vote, and no pro-Ukraine voices were allowed - Ukraine was portrayed as being Nazi - with swastikas or the Russian flag as the "choice" on the posters photographed all over Crimea.

And the country was under military occupation by an invading force.

If you think that is "the people's vote" then you have no right to complain about any elections or referendum in any western country, EVER!



posted on Mar, 24 2014 @ 03:23 PM
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Thing is, Ukrainians, especially Tymoshenko, are wholly aggrieved, and will do and say anything to bring the West into their affairs whilst acting the victim, and of course, there are plenty of neo-con-fascists in Washington only too happy to oblige. For them the cold war never ended, but simply changed in temperature, from cold to tepid, and now that the 'war on terror' is becoming something of a blase topic, they now want to demonize the 'new' Russia and present it as the old bogeyman once feared.

Ukranians are desperate for Western lifestyle, and I have no problem of them seeking it out. I do have a problem in the way they are going about it, but more the way their leadership is #-stirring the pot to gain sympathetic help from the West. Obama couldn't give a damn about the ordinary Ukranians, he just wants military hardware and assets as close to Russia as possible, and Putin...rightly, isn't going to make it easy for him.

Anerica were first to cry when Russia were placing missiles in Cuba back in the 1960s, but of course, it's okay for America to do the exact same thing to Russia...American hypocrisy stinks the planet, and makes it rank and rancid. Tymoshenko has obviously come out from her incarceration as a loony tune, something even the Ukrainians should be aware of, because if she had her way, she'd have her country wiped off the map!
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posted on Mar, 24 2014 @ 03:26 PM
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WWIII 2.0?
Rats I must have overslept past the actual start of WWIII...



posted on Mar, 24 2014 @ 03:39 PM
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elysiumfire
Thing is, Ukrainians, especially Tymoshenko, are wholly aggrieved, and will do and say anything to bring the West into their affairs whilst acting the victim, ....


They don't have to work very hard to be the "victims" in this case.

and of course RT routinely makes stuff up - so anything coming from them is straight from the Kremlin - at least with Ukrainian propaganda you get to see it as such - the number of people on here taking Russian propaganda at face value is astounding.



posted on Mar, 24 2014 @ 03:39 PM
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I've been watching pretty closely and most of the Ukrainian bases were stormed by citizens, there are many videos of this. The only one where much military force was used was this last base where the Commanding Officer refused to leave. Many of the officers and soldiers said that Kiev had kept them in the dark about the whole situation and were just given orders to hold-out.


Actually if you remember the first base the Russians took over was actually pretty civilized and they (Ukraine) were in contact with the higher powers in Kiev.

As far as videos from there, I think Vice did the best job of reporting on it.

Since there are so many here is the link for them in case you haven't already seen them.

www.youtube.com...



posted on Mar, 24 2014 @ 03:46 PM
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Don't know mate but I have spoken to people from the Ukraine and seen news footage of very large parties where everyone seems happy and they were flying the Russian flag.

Sure they could had been forced to party at gun point or all paid to look happy but something tells me that these people were in fact happy to be back with Russia and away from the nazi thugs that shoot their own people.

Do they allow you watch Russia Today from where you are ?


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posted on Mar, 24 2014 @ 03:49 PM
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I do have a problem in the way they are going about it, but more the way their leadership is #-stirring the pot to gain sympathetic help from the West. Obama couldn't give a damn about the ordinary Ukranians, he just wants military hardware and assets as close to Russia as possible, and Putin...rightly, isn't going to make it easy for him.


The problem is that the US is known as a country that you can ask for help and usually get it except in this case it didn't happen.

Now I don't condone what's happening in Ukraine, but Russia could have done things very different and probably would have come out ahead, but they decided to things their way and that is why we are where we are today.

There is no reason for the US to put any hardware near Russia when NATO is already on their doorstep.

But then again it is Obama we are talking about so anything is possible with him.




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