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Originally posted by edsinger
I think the muslims are doing a good job of alienating Americans
Originally posted by marg6043
Is not doubt that the actions of the US when it comes to policies in the middle east is alienating the muslin nations.
The war on "Terrorism" can be seen as a war on the muslin, and Islamic ideology.
US has not taken upon themselves to draw a line on what they chose as to call enemy.
The actions in Iraq and the civilian casualties are a very good example of that.
Edsinger says: Dammit marg, just what war had NO civilian casualties? NONE! and you know it, either you are on hallucinogenic drugs are in need of some. You just can not recognize reality at all.
Why when we attack back we are the bad guys? 911 was the last straw, we gave them many of chances.....we will now finish it.
Muslims dont even like egypt, saudi arabia, jordan, pakistan, and gulf states that have become westernized and/or have interactions with the USA, especially if they are saying those places are "tyranies".
"The overwhelming majority voice their objections to what they see as one-sided support in favour of Israel and against Palestinian rights, and the long-standing, even increasing, support for what Muslims collectively see as tyrannies, most notably Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Pakistan and the Gulf states.
Have you been paying attention to muslim acts of aggression against the USA interests for the past 25-30 yrs?
The Americans are invaders, and they are doing more to breed terrorists than anything ever has before.
Originally posted by marg6043
You don't need to be on drugs to see the years of bad policies that the US has done to the middle east in favor of the Israelis.
You don't have to be in drugs to see how the US kiss butt to the Saudi Government.
You don't need to be on drugs to see how the US made Bin-laden.
You don't need to be on drugs to see how the US allowed, India, Pakistan and Israel to have nuclear power.
You don't need to be on drugs to see the humanitarian crisis in Iraq due to the invasion.
You don't need to be on drugs to see the terrorism that has been allowed across the borders into Iraq after the invasion because the Oil fields were priority.
we the tax payer in US has to pay for all of Mr. Bush mistakes.
Whao in pursue of "democracy" we are US are invadors, killers and bullies, we has not only manage to alienated Europe but now the muslins hate us more than ever.
Originally posted by dubiousone
The Islamic world's attitude toward the US is well-founded and has been long before anything happened on 9/11/2001.
Originally posted by IAF101
To support a country under threat from terrorism from the PLO is "bad policy"?
To have a stable source of oil for our nation and to make a nation that is the keystone to the entire muslim world our friend is a "butt kissing"?
A sociological study was not conducted on the region before the US decided in helping the Afghanistanis ; would you have preferred that the CIA have interviewed every fighter for possible terrorist and extreemist tendencies??
Hindering progress would help to fuel animosity towards America. Also India and Israel both have a very good nuclear safe gaurds. Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal is also reportedly under close US supervision.
America imposed sanctions on both India and Pakistan after their tests and some of them are still in place today. Both the Indians and the Pakistanis developed nuclear weapons despite US pressure not to do the same, both used alternate sources to achieve this goal (India-Soviets, Pakistan- Chinese).
Do you realize that the suffering of the Iraqi people under Saddam was much greater than their present condition, even as the US tries to restore and to fund its reconstruction projects in Iraq?
The Oil fields of Iraq are its only future without which they cannot survive economically as a nation,
I understand that Bush committed some errors but to say that we are invaders is tendentious because we acted only after 9/11 and not before with our policy of pre-emtive strikes for "self preservation".
The whole world supports the idea of combating terrorism as Islamic fundamentalists are bent on creating anarchy in every region of the World to destabilize existing democracies and establish their "Barbaric" form of governance.
A Pentagon advisory panel has warned the US is losing "the war of ideas" in the Islamic world.
The Oil fields of Iraq are its only future without which they cannot survive economically as a nation, so it is more important that these assets were kept safe so that the Iraqis could latter use it to effectively rebuild their country into the rich and proud nation that it deserves to be.
(and maybe three if the christians here get too crazy).
adelinser said: The U.S. may have made some mistakes but at least they are doing something.
Originally posted by abbadaba
In this century, the breeding ground for this form of Islam is Saudi Arabia where it is taught in "religious" schools called "madrasahs." Unfortunately, for the past 30 years this hatred has been instilled in its youth but our leaders were too blinded by oil wealth to want to see it – our leaders looked the other way and pretended this was not happening so as not to "offend" the Saudi leaders whose hands were on the oil spigot. In fact, our leaders encouraged this fanaticism because in the cold war these warrior Muslims fought against the Russians in Afghanistan and the Russians were our enemies at that time.