posted on Nov, 26 2004 @ 11:11 AM
Originally posted by soficrow
Originally posted by dgtempe
I think this is just part of the terror broo ha ha that's so in vogue now a days. Its all part of the mind control agenda,IMHO.
IMHO - the 'terror brouhaha' was developed to cover up all the epidemics, and divert needed funds before they could be tapped for public health.
...Niman's right - this flu epidemic was predicted long ago and it will come. The only question is when.
...The first perfectly usable H5N1 bird flu vaccine was developed by 1999 - and reverse engineering technology can get billions of doses out the door
and on the streets inside of weeks. I knew about this long ago, and thought manufacturing was ready to roll. Wrong.
Turns out that manufacturers aren't willing to share their profits with the guys who developed reverse engineering and hold the Intellectual Property
rights for it. ...So Big Pharma won't use the technology. Which means it will take 6 months or more to manufacture at capacity using old technology -
and provide the world with about 10% of the vaccines needed.
Actually Medimmune said that IP issues could be worked out and pandemic flu vaccines are being developed by Aventis (H5N1) and Chiron (H9N2). Since
these two viruses are known to recombine and reassort
vaccines against both would be useful.
The problem with the 1999 pandemic vaccine was the fact that it was made agains the 1997 H5N1 and the 2004 H5N1 has changed quite a bit (1997 had a 19
aa deletion in NA but 2004 has a 20 aa deletion that overlaps but is different - 2004 also has a 5 aa delection in NS as well as two Amantadine
resistant mutations in M2. 1997 had internal genes from H9N2 and H6N1 isolates, while 2004 is a recombinant between 2000/2001 H5N1 isolates found in
Hong Kong, so the vaccine against 1997 really doesn't do much against 2004 version of H5N1.
In addition, the isolates from Thailand and Vietnam have unique polymorphisms not found in other H5N1 isolates
and these isolates produce a very high case mortality rate
The problem is development time. Aventis won't start trials until next year and Chiron has potential issues with contamination in its Liverpool
vaccine manufacturing plant(s). The vaccine is expected to be ready in 2007, but the virus is merrily mutating and getting ready for a major assault
(and by 2007 it may have changed enough to make the current vaccine under development pretty useless).
Moreover, stockpiled antivirals are also pretty useless against H5N1