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History shows us without a shadow of a doubt, that religion was invariably used as a façade to hide the true purpose of all wars of aggression: That is, the consolidation of power through fear and the acquisition of wealth in all its manifestations. www.inthenameofallah.org...
"All war is based on deception." ~ Sun Tzu, The Art of War
One group and one group alone is responsible for virtually all wars and bloodshed on the face of this planet. The Synagogue of Satan
madmac5150
reply to post by ElohimJD
Thank you... that is exactly what I hoped ATSers would see and understand.
How often is the "right thing to do" now countered by "law"? For instance, in some cities it is illegal to give money to a "panhandler"... but what if this person is genuinely hungry and is just looking for a few buck to eat? The "right thing" would be to help this person, yet at the same time helping this person has been made illegal...
The "right thing" to do would be to tackle the poverty and homelessness in our own backyards... instead more money is spent globally on "poverty" issues (which is code for buying influence and paying others countries to see things our way)... which is legal, and only done because of that legality... this doesn't mean that it is right or just, only legal.
How many of our leaders lack this sense of morality? Would we, as a society, benefit more from leaders with morals or leaders with ethics? (Of course, what are the chances of finding one with either?)
edit on 24-3-2014 by madmac5150 because: And so it goes...
GetHyped
reply to post by KilgoreTrout
And the award for "Most Appropriate Username" goes to...
Grimpachi
I agree with you religion is a tool that has been used to control, manipulate, and blame. If that tool was removed man may not be so easily controlled or manipulated. If that tool disappeared from society I just do not see how Darwins discovery could replace it as a tool. I do not see the evidence that is the case where countries embraced his discoveries as most of them are enjoying an era of peace.
"Athesim has produced FIVE Atheist states, all bloody tyrannies killing over 40,000,000 people during the 20th Century Atheist holocaust!" Rewriting History and Making Facts Disappear (link is dead)
"...secular ideologies were responsible for the murder of 100 million innocent people during the last century." Source
Nobody has died because of religion. When people "kill in the name of religion," they're actually going against what religion teaches.
A man could claim to be killing in the name of Mickey Mouse -- but that is a bad reflection on the man, not on Mickey Mouse.
Atheist Communist regimes, meanwhile, have killed over 100 million of their own people (and that's a conservative number) in just the last 100 years.
They didn't do it in the name of atheism, precisely, but their killing is not going against what atheism teaches. Because atheism, in essence, teaches nothing. Whenever atheism has been installed as the Official State Religion, the state in question has always given itself permission to do unspeakable things. Always.
When God is not, as Dostoyevsky wrote, anything is permitted.
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-Timequake
madmac5150
As a KVJ fan I though I'd throw in a few of his other quotes on evolution :
I am too lazy to chase down the exact quotation but the British astronomer Fred Hoyle said something to this effect: The believing in Darwin’s theoretical mechanisms of evolution was like believing that a hurricane could blow through a junkyard and build a Boeing 747. No matter what is doing the creating. I have to say that the giraffe and the rhinoceros are ridiculous. And so is the human brain, capable, in cahoots with the more sensitive parts of the body, such as the ding dong, of hating life while pretending to love it, and behaving accordingly: Somebody shoot me while I’m happy!
JanAmosComenius
I think KVJ mentioned Darwin as scientific base of racism. BTW concept of evolution was popular long time before Darwin's expose. Darwin contributed some mechanisms how evolution may proceed. He did the step from hypothesis to testable theory.
Published in 1859, Darwin’s On the Origin of Species said nothing of substance about the origin of species. Or anything else, for that matter. It nonetheless persuaded scientists in England, Germany and the United States that human beings were accidents of creation. Where Darwin had seen species struggling for survival, German physicians, biologists, and professors of hygiene saw races. They drew the obvious conclusion, the one that Darwin had already drawn. In the struggle for survival, the fittest win out at the expense of their rivals. German scientists took the word expense to mean what it meant: The annihilation of less fit races. The point is made with abysmal clarity in the documentary, Expelled. Visiting the site at which those judged defective were killed – a hospital, of course – the narrator, Ben Stein, asks the curator what most influenced the doctors doing the killing. “Darwinism,” she replies wanly.
On blacks, immigrants and indigents: "...human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born." Margaret Sanger, Pivot of Civilization, referring to immigrants and poor people
On the purpose of birth control: The purpose in promoting birth control was "to create a race of thoroughbreds," she wrote in the Birth Control Review, Nov. 1921 (p. 2)
On the extermination of blacks: "We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population," she said, "if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members." Woman's Body, Woman's Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America, by Linda Gordon
madmac5150
Darwinism or Evolutionism (whatever label you may prefer) implies that, through "natural selection", some races of mankind (ie. caucasians) are further evolved and therefore can be labeled as a master race. "Lesser races" (ie. blacks, asians etc.) are just more mouths that have to be fed and thereby seen as "justly expendable". This IS the basis for eugenics.
madmac5150
JanAmosComenius
I think KVJ mentioned Darwin as scientific base of racism. BTW concept of evolution was popular long time before Darwin's expose. Darwin contributed some mechanisms how evolution may proceed. He did the step from hypothesis to testable theory.
An earlier post pointed out that Hitler claimed to be a Christian... which is a true statement. However, Nazi eugenics were clearly driven by Darwinism: the idea that one race was further evolved than others...
Published in 1859, Darwin’s On the Origin of Species said nothing of substance about the origin of species. Or anything else, for that matter. It nonetheless persuaded scientists in England, Germany and the United States that human beings were accidents of creation. Where Darwin had seen species struggling for survival, German physicians, biologists, and professors of hygiene saw races. They drew the obvious conclusion, the one that Darwin had already drawn. In the struggle for survival, the fittest win out at the expense of their rivals. German scientists took the word expense to mean what it meant: The annihilation of less fit races. The point is made with abysmal clarity in the documentary, Expelled. Visiting the site at which those judged defective were killed – a hospital, of course – the narrator, Ben Stein, asks the curator what most influenced the doctors doing the killing. “Darwinism,” she replies wanly.
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Darwinism or Evolutionism (whatever label you may prefer) implies that, through "natural selection", some races of mankind (ie. caucasians) are further evolved and therefore can be labeled as a master race. "Lesser races" (ie. blacks, asians etc.) are just more mouths that have to be fed and thereby seen as "justly expendable". This IS the basis for eugenics.
For instance, look at Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood. Sanger was a hardcore Darwinist, and took the idea of natural selection a step further... selected breeding. Here are a few of her more memorable quotes:
On blacks, immigrants and indigents: "...human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born." Margaret Sanger, Pivot of Civilization, referring to immigrants and poor people
On the purpose of birth control: The purpose in promoting birth control was "to create a race of thoroughbreds," she wrote in the Birth Control Review, Nov. 1921 (p. 2)
On the extermination of blacks: "We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population," she said, "if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members." Woman's Body, Woman's Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America, by Linda Gordon
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Darwinism, eugenics, genocide... it's all tied together...
Breakfast of Champions broke me a little as a human in this time and place, forever... and I curse and love him for that dose of alienation.