Mom arrested at her son's school for not "signing in". School put on "LOCKDOWN".

reply to post by gladtobehere


let me get this straight the shool called her in . the school people let her in she calmed down her child then principal expletive had her arrested yeah i think she has a valid case of false arrest and the police should arrest him for filing a false police report . they CALLED HER IN THEY LET HER IN THIS IS SCHOOLS FAULT NOT HERS.

More to this than meets the eye.

Firstly if the rule is sign in, then sign in. You would know that the school would go into lockdown for security breaches if its rules states so.

Secondly I'd hate be in that education system of security and fear

Thirdly, how is that helicopter parenting going for her... Kid knows he can kick up a fit and mum will arrive to save the day.


Using his aspergers as an excuse is just that.. an excuse, hes never going to socialize and stabilize if mum runs to the rescue . he will never learn to "deal with it"

reply to post by gladtobehere


The funny thing about this is that it's the soccer moms that helped make things so ridiculous.

gladtobehere
Then the school principal informed her she was violated school policy by not signing in. “I didn’t sign the book, but I had to check on my son. You can bring me the book, She said oh no, I’ve already called the police.

People this stupid shouldn't be anywhere near a school. There should be a "Common Sense Offender" list. An idiot like that Principal should be kept 500 feet away from a school.

If she threaten someone with a stabbing...WTF was she buzzed in. Schools and parent 'clicks' are worse than High School. Why is she upset with the school? There are three sides to each story...theirs, yours and the truth.

If I was a parent at the school I would sue the hell out of them for breaching security procedures and buzzing someone in who may have made threats in the past. OR, if they had armed security to escort all visiting parents to classrooms we would not care, would we.

This is why my children are now in a small private school with stringent security in place.

reply to post by marbles87


I really want to put you in place, as an Aspie myself, but the OP already has me in a state of WTF.

There is documented proof of Asperger's, it's the more open form of Autism...no babying or molly-coddling

reply to post by TheToastmanCometh


Horse crap. If it was a real condition you wouldn't call yourself an "aspie" to glorify your social short comings. Be like a diabetic saying I'm not hyper glycemic I'm "insulin broke yo". "I don't have polio, I'm bionic". The reason Aspergers and ADHD as well as some degrees of Autism is that literally ANYONE can fall into the category depending on how you feel about yourself. If these are authentic then hell according to the symptoms I contract and cure Aspergers, autism, and ADHD several times a day. These conditions are a crutch for people who are so removed from sociatal norms to "stand out" I mean be unique that they will feed their Like you are doing now. If you wear a cats tail to school you don't have aspergers your a walking bullseye and no matter how many medical names you put on it you will not beat it. If you can't fight or cure a problem it's because the problem doesn't exist. "I can't fit in because society doesn't understand why I can't fit in because I can't fit in" is a bunch of $h1t.

Good day

I know it's hard for people to blame their mom for their current situation but the sooner everyone finds out that you are not a special snowflake and the entire world is chomping at the bit to steam roll your butt at every cross walk the Better. Life does not give rewards for showing up.

marbles87
Stopped reading at "Aspergers" it's a phantom "illness" if it dare gets that title. I am also aware that "Aspergers" in my opinion is linked directly to "babying" adolents and teens and can be cured with proper techniques of parenting to get the child's spine back and sense of responsibility. Now if a person has a mental disorder where they are actually hindered by it then it is something more complex and pressing than "Aspergers". Mom broke all the rules she knew were in place. Name one special needs parent who don't know the ins and outs of a situation involving their kid because they handle them all the time. Mom is over protective and it's harming her child.

This mom knew she had to sign in, knew it wasn't a life threatening emergency to trump said sign in protocol especially where special needs kids are because they are at more risk of being harmed. This mom is the problem not the school. She failed to follow the rules everyone wanted to protect these kids.

1, Aspergers and autism are not an illness it is a different brain wiring to you so called "normal thinkers" and are a different way of thinking and approaching the world. You can't title or label an aspie, as soon as you put them in one box all nicely snug fit they will jump out and surprise you.

It is amazingly complex.
Sorry there is no cure, no magic pill. Who would want it anyway? To become a mundane boring normal person after experiencing the gift of aspergers would be like taking the soul away.
No it's not a mental illness either. To simplify its a kinda different species/race. Mental illnesses are simple, even textbook behaviours compared to the complexity of autism.
Yes by using different techniques the child can learn how to "act" to be socially acceptable to plain old normal people but they will still be an aspie and think like an aspie thank god. Otherwise we wouldn't have amazing things like computers and art and so on.

2, You mustn't of had the pleasure of being around an aspie to teach you how the world is to one. If you were ever around an aspie, like many "normal thinkers" your eyes and mind seem closed to the amazing wonder that is aspergers. Perhaps you saw the tantrums and labelled it "naughty child AKA bad parenting and jumped to the conclusion without seeing the bigger picture.

3, First you said it's a phantom illness then you classed "mum" as a special needs parent. You can't have it both ways.

4, Yes mum is being over protective as far as I read it and should of known the rules but perhaps she's an aspie too and we dont know the whole story. To give her credit the child is in elementary school and perhaps it's the first aspie child she has had, we don't know that from the story. It's the lack of understanding about Aspies from both parents and the wider world that is the issue for an autistic or aspie child. Knowledge comes by prior learning. It does work on experience and each aspie is unique in their gifts and abilities. So what works for one doesn't for another. But having said that helicopter parenting doesn't work for any aspie.

reply to post by Mayet


By your own words you would rather be sick than normal in point one. Didn't read the rest. Dude you would rather call yourself sick than normal by your own words.

You will only harm yourself and others to continue to live your life and try to convince others there is something wrong with you when in fact you're normal and have a few places to develope to obtain ones personal definition of success. And if you're "sick" you're far from success.

marbles87
reply to post by TheToastmanCometh

 

Horse crap. If it was a real condition you wouldn't call yourself an "aspie" to glorify your social short comings.

You should do a bit of research before you go all commando on people. Aspergers is not a condition but then I covered that in my own reply to you.

Be like a diabetic saying I'm not hyper glycemic I'm "insulin broke yo". "I don't have polio, I'm bionic". The reason Aspergers and ADHD as well as some degrees of Autism is that literally ANYONE can fall into the category depending on how you feel about yourself. If these are authentic then hell according to the symptoms I contract and cure Aspergers, autism, and ADHD several times a day. These conditions are a crutch for people who are so removed from sociatal norms to "stand out" I mean be unique that they will feed their Like you are doing now.

Did I mention that you need to do a bit of research? I think I did. Your lack of knowledge is outstanding. Do you have a problem with people being unique? Would you prefer a robot existence or a society of clones perhaps?

ADHD is not autism nor aspergers. ADHD is indeed what you would label a condition not unlike says diabetes or polio. It's a chemical inbalance with a lot to do with food intolerances and chemicals.. that makes sense because it is a chemical inbalance. Did you know they can now do blood testing for ADHD? Amazing the progress we make with illnesses

If you wear a cats tail to school you don't have aspergers your a walking bullseye and no matter how many medical names you put on it you will not beat it. If you can't fight or cure a problem it's because the problem doesn't exist. "I can't fit in because society doesn't understand why I can't fit in because I can't fit in" is a bunch of $h1t.

I can't recall wearing a cats tail to school, is this something that in your own personal experience many aspies do? What makes you think aspies want to "fit in" as you so eloquently put it? Is this something else in your personal experience that aspies have a need to do?

and you are correct.. aspergers is not a problem at all.

Good day

it will be indeed ..mines just getting started.. life's good ..

I know it's hard for people to blame their mom for their current situation but the sooner everyone finds out that you are not a special snowflake and the entire world is chomping at the bit to steam roll your butt at every cross walk the Better. Life does not give rewards for showing up.

phew.. thanks for that.. you had me worried for a whole 30 seconds. I am glad I am not a special snowflake, not because snowflakes are each in themselves unique or anything but because lets face it, who the heck has the eye sight to differentiate. It's actually because they are cold and I don't do cold. TheToastMan there above who is also commenting might like snowflakes more then me.. I wouldn't know

You seem angry .. lost your marbles perhaps or just having a bad hair day? Don't worry plenty more where they came from. Marbles are all the same, you see one you have seen them all. Same patterns, same size, same game. Do you often feel the need to take that anger out on people you perceive to be less than you? You certainly seem to feel you are the better person here.

marbles87
reply to post by Mayet

 

By your own words you would rather be sick than normal in point one. Didn't read the rest. Dude you would rather call yourself sick than normal by your own words.

It's dudette to you thanks.

You will only harm yourself and others to continue to live your life and try to convince others there is something wrong with you when in fact you're normal and have a few places to develope to obtain ones personal definition of success. And if you're "sick" you're far from success.

edit on 24-3-2014 by marbles87 because: (no reason given)

*facepalm* would I be really rude right now If i said.. DUDE.. DUDE.... you..have..no...clue...

probably but there it slipped out..

reply to post by Mayet


I'm sorry you can't understand the methods that have have helped me with my problems but there will always be a "professional victim".

I wish you peace with your obsticals and honestly I hope that you can come to realize you're making all of this up just like I did.

Even if you tell the truth but thinking you have lied you will fail a polygraph. and it is exactly those types of symptoms that allows this self fulling prophecy to flourish.

If I can beat it you can too. I was a medicated child but that didn't stop me from being an informed adult. Or you can continue to pop pills I'm mean there is no way doctors and big pharma would create a fake problem for money would you?

mwood
I agree, WAKE UP AMERICA....

Learn to follow the rules and you won't be arrested!

You people see the authorities wrong in everything that happens anymore.

If someone went in and started shooting or did something else wrong you would be complaining at the lack of security.

Everybody thinks they are above the rules anymore. Her son was in do danger and she should have signed in. They have those rules for a reason and don't want people just wandering the halls.

I know I will be the only one who thinks this way but that's how it works in just about every school in the country, when you go in you sign in at the office. I'm almost 50 years old and it was that way when I was in school.

Although I do believe the response to have been over the top crazy I agree that you had to sign the book 40 years ago as well. I'm just not sure how that justifies the response in some fashion.

marbles87
I'm sorry you can't understand the methods that have have helped me with my problems but there will always be a "professional victim".

I think a double facepalm is needed here..... and how is that working out for you?

I wish you peace with your obsticals and honestly I hope that you can come to realize you're making all of this up just like I did.

Sweetheart .. other than my kids leaving out boxes for me to trip over at night when I wander off to bed in the dark ..I have no obstacles...

Even if you tell the truth but thinking you have lied you will fail a polygraph. and it is exactly those types of symptoms that allows this self fulling prophecy to flourish.

Im still scratching my head trying to make sense of that one. It sounds like one of those profound obscure quotes I might find in a fortune cookie to wash down with my fried rice.

If I can beat it you can too. I was a medicated child but that didn't stop me from being an informed adult. Or you can continue to pop pills I'm mean there is no way doctors and big pharma would create a fake problem for money would you?

beat what? The only thing I could be bothered to beat these days is my high score in space invaders. You really need to listen sometimes instead of sprouting off half baked nonsense. YOU may of been medicated as a child but I have news, you are not everyone. Now, I will type this slowly for you. I do not pop pills. I'll say it again just so it sinks in. I don't take tablets, pills, medication or drugs. I am a very happy little vegemite.

Tin foil hat much? you are saying that Big Pharma created Autism? wow .. and here was me thinking a theory along the lines of genetic throwbacks to another time... or even dare i say it evolution. My bad...You have completely ruined my X Men fantasies now.. I thought those buggers were still busy with the bird flu and other crap they can make money off and you tell me they managed to slip Autism in there sneakily while I wasn't looking. Problem is though with that theory of yours is that there has no drug been made in the world today that can change a thing about an autists mind...

I am beginning to sense you are very young and still totally screwed up about your own reality. Sorry to hear it but just because you are mad and peed off with the world, not everyone is. Some of us love life and really enjoy being ourselves.

Imagine that eh?

reply to post by gladtobehere


Listen people this is happening all over. I've seen this first hand happen in our school system. It goes back to the liberal looney professors teaching or manipulating our young kids in college.most college professors are liberal, what better way to push their ideas. Our school is system becoming more and more a liberal institution . No bullying, don't offend anyone, you can't call a jock a jock or a nerd a nerd. Because it offends. Protect your kids!

reply to post by opethPA


Pretty much what you said right there, it's a cluster from both sides. However there is a higher chance a parent or close relative is going to kidnap, or harm a child AT school, than a stranger. Recently here (Dunedin New Zealand), a father killed his kids, just so his wife (who had custody) could not have them, then killed himself. No it was not in a school, but the security here is a lot more lax than that in the US. This is partly due to the lack of guns on the streets (he some how got one, and should not have), and partly due to naivety I think.

proteus33
reply to post by gladtobehere

 

let me get this straight the shool called her in . the school people let her in she calmed down her child then principal expletive had her arrested yeah i think she has a valid case of false arrest and the police should arrest him for filing a false police report . they CALLED HER IN THEY LET HER IN THIS IS SCHOOLS FAULT NOT HERS.

Police weren't in the wrong here. It was the principals call. Think of it this way. If someone is throwing a house party and you call the police for a noise complaint, they HAVE to go and check it out. If someone steps on your lawn and doesn't move and you call the cops they have to come and arrest that person, they don't make the decision if the person should be arrested or not when someone calls in, they are just doing their job.

In all honesty, it sounds like there is much more to the story than this what we see, or someone isn't reporting all the details.
She might have been making up half the story, or something. Not saying she did, but it seems to ridiculous of a story for something like this to happen.

And, lets be honest here if someone didn't sign that book and shot up the place, what would people be complaining then? it's a fine edge between one side of the sword and the other here.

reply to post by gladtobehere

THAT is a total abuse of power; how can that possibly help to treat a parent that way when their special needs child is panicking? Sounds like a disconnect b/w the teacher and the administrator. I would PULL my child from that school. Outrageous.

reply to post by gladtobehere


You're right, some, many, people might suggest the mother was out of line. This probably will not be as much the case on ATS, but we're mostly watchdogs here. Anyway, when people say that the mother was in the wrong you'll know just how deeply conditioned our society has become.

Nobody should be able to keep a loving mother from her son... Not a stranger, not CPS, and damn sure not a school. So what if she didn't think about signing in. She was very concerned... for her son. Petty school policies were probably the last thing on her mind. It isn't as though she had some nefarious plan in motion specifically to undermine school authority.

Somebody here on ATS made the point that schools are like prisons. I agree, they are beginning more like prison minor everyday. Someone else said they've been doing it 20 years and it isn't prison-like. Flibertigibet! That means he/she attended a beta test school 20 or so years ago.

mwood
I agree, WAKE UP AMERICA....

Learn to follow the rules and you won't be arrested!

You people see the authorities wrong in everything that happens anymore.

If someone went in and started shooting or did something else wrong you would be complaining at the lack of security.

Everybody thinks they are above the rules anymore. Her son was in do danger and she should have signed in. They have those rules for a reason and don't want people just wandering the halls.

I know I will be the only one who thinks this way but that's how it works in just about every school in the country, when you go in you sign in at the office. I'm almost 50 years old and it was that way when I was in school.

What a crock of crapola! For your information, we're not going to wake up to the new rules. We don't want them. We don't want police state NAZI crap, we don't want police called in the schools.

Many of us know every single event from Sandy Hook, to Colorado is a FALSE FLAG and we want the real culprits, the government and forces behind them ARRESTED AND IMPRISONED with all unlawful legislation, bills and ordinances declared crimes against humanity like the nuremburg trials did to the nazi documents and unlawful laws, and all signatures on them arrested and tried for treason.

BUT WE'RE NOT ACCEPTING THIS NEW WORLD.

No one has ever had to sign in at the office. There is no requirement as such. 5 boys, lots of school visits. Only go to office to set up appointments and such.