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reply to post by FlyersFan
BTW... Doesn't that sort of trivialize Jesus suffering? I mean... He REALLY suffered. Scourged, beaten, mocked, crucified, crown of thorns, spear in the side...
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.
23 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, 24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
...work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
Yes, many are called and few are chosen, but Jesus never indicated much about that process except for His teachings and faith. And He the only thing He made crystal clear is that faith must come first.
And I'm not sure who any of us think we are to second-guess God, especially when none of us knows if we will be chosen.
The "perish in hell" bit, or something similar, comes from quotes from Jesus in the gospels.
I want to hear from the people that say that you and I will perish in hell. I have seen it on this very site, that 99% of Christians will perish in hell.
Forgiveness is granted to those who repent and have God's spirit that is given through Christ to not sin any more.
I want to hear from that 1%. I want them to tell us all what their secret is. Why does Jesus forgive their sins more than mine?
"Salvation" I'm pretty sure is the topic of the tread, be it from the fire or otherwise.
You are promised immortality and that's all you care about. Saving your own ass from the fire.
So I've seen a lot of Christians lately telling people on this site why everyone is going to hell, and only 1% of Christians (or something silly like that) are going to heaven. So you all know who you are, so why don't you tell me and everyone else here why you are going to Heaven and the rest of us are going to roast for eternity?
You really do know who you are, so I want to see if you have the balls to come forward and tell us all (Christians too) why you are destined for the pearly gates, and the other 99% of us are going to roast forever.
If you could include things on your resume that we could shoot for, that would be great. Tips I would appreciate:
-How not to sin
-How to be perfect
-How to have God's perfect knowledge
-Why we're even born if only YOU are the elect
-Why you figure your message of "hope" is very hopeful when you are condemning 99% of CHRISTIANS to hell, and 100% of everyone else
If you could give us all a few tips to get past the pearly whites, and let us all know why we don't belong there, and YOU do, I'd really appreciate it.edit on 23-3-2014 by DeadSeraph because: (no reason given)edit on 23-3-2014 by DeadSeraph because: (no reason given)
"Knowledge of Salvation" shows up in Luke 1:77 in relation to the line "to enable us to serve him without fear in holiness and righteousness before him all our days." which was to be brought about by the work of John the Baptist, which we know was preaching repentance.
The true formula is: Knowledge of Salvation + Love for the Light of the World = Faith in Christ
reply to post by WarminIndy
Wouldn't matter, because they would all have the same fuzzy answers that only work if you stop thinking about it and just swallow the worm.