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Krazysh0t
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan
Maybe you misunderstood my post. I initially stated that piracy is wrong, because on the basic level, it is wrong. Just like stealing is wrong, but a father stealing food to feed his children for the night could be excused out of sympathy. As far as all the rhetoric that media industries spew about digital piracy (software, music, video), I don't buy any of it for a second. I know about the shady tactics that these production companies use to screw over the very artists who are making the content for them to sell. Things like movie companies creating shell companies that operate at a loss then promising a new actor for that movie a percentage of that movie's net income or a record company paying a pittance to its music artists to the point that after the company is done with them, the artist is STILL broke. F those companies, I could care less how much money they lose to piracy.
I just wanted to be clear that if you are going to justify doing something that is ethically wrong, you should at least understand that what you are doing is wrong in most other situations. Just so you know, I have over 120 gigs of music on my HDD. I'll let you decide how I got most of it as I'm pleading the 5th on how I acquired it all.edit on 21-3-2014 by Krazysh0t because: (no reason given)
How can I take something that becomes infinite? If I steal something it deprives someone of the original they lose it forever etc. I don't have to live with anything. Your trying to what convince me and others I should feel guilty what are you a shill for MPAA?
GeorgiaGirl
Soulhacking
No its not. Theft and stealing require the original is taken we are dealing with infinite copies. I can't wait till science invents a replicator like from star trek and we start coping food. The food corps will try and say its illegal to use as its piracy to make copies of hamburgers.
GeorgiaGirl
I am always astounded at the number of you who think it is your right to have any digital content you want for free.
Piracy is theft. Period. You can say "everyone is doing it" or "movies are too expensive" or "they made enough money so why do they need mine" all day long, but you are still a thief.
Um, no, your definition of theft and stealing is wrong. Theft is taking something that doesn't belong to you.
But, hey--whatever helps you live with yourself, right???
Soulhacking
How can I take something that becomes infinite? If I steal something it deprives someone of the original they lose it forever etc. I don't have to live with anything. Your trying to what convince me and others I should feel guilty what are you a shill for MPAA?
GeorgiaGirl
Soulhacking
No its not. Theft and stealing require the original is taken we are dealing with infinite copies. I can't wait till science invents a replicator like from star trek and we start coping food. The food corps will try and say its illegal to use as its piracy to make copies of hamburgers.
GeorgiaGirl
I am always astounded at the number of you who think it is your right to have any digital content you want for free.
Piracy is theft. Period. You can say "everyone is doing it" or "movies are too expensive" or "they made enough money so why do they need mine" all day long, but you are still a thief.
Um, no, your definition of theft and stealing is wrong. Theft is taking something that doesn't belong to you.
But, hey--whatever helps you live with yourself, right???
Soulhacking
How can I take something that becomes infinite? If I steal something it deprives someone of the original they lose it forever etc. I don't have to live with anything. Your trying to what convince me and others I should feel guilty what are you a shill for MPAA?
GeorgiaGirl
Soulhacking
No its not. Theft and stealing require the original is taken we are dealing with infinite copies. I can't wait till science invents a replicator like from star trek and we start coping food. The food corps will try and say its illegal to use as its piracy to make copies of hamburgers.
GeorgiaGirl
I am always astounded at the number of you who think it is your right to have any digital content you want for free.
Piracy is theft. Period. You can say "everyone is doing it" or "movies are too expensive" or "they made enough money so why do they need mine" all day long, but you are still a thief.
Um, no, your definition of theft and stealing is wrong. Theft is taking something that doesn't belong to you.
But, hey--whatever helps you live with yourself, right???
We've written about the wonders of Hollywood accounting before. It's a series of tricks pulled by Hollywood studios to make most of their movies look unprofitable, even when they're making a ton of money. The details can be complex, but a simplified version is that every studio sets up a new "shell" company for each movie -- and that company is specifically designed to lose money. The studio gives that company the production budget (the number you usually see) and then also agrees to pay for marketing and related expenses above and beyond that. Both of those numbers represent (mostly) actual cash outlays from the studio and are reasonable to count as expenses. Then comes the sneaky part: on top of all that, the studios charge the "movie company" a series of fees for other questionable things. Many of these fees involve no real direct expense for the studio, but basically pile a huge expense onto the income statement and ensure that the studio keeps getting all of the movie income -- rather than having to share the profits with key participants -- long after the movie would be considered profitable under regular accounting rules. (bold part added)
Scott Derrickson (SD): It made $75 [million] domestic and $150 [million] worldwide...
Kevin Smith (KS): Nice. You're a true filmmaker, you know exactly what your movies made everywhere...
SD: Hellllll yeah.
KS: It's a badge of honor.
SD: And to all the young filmmakers listening, I had 5% of the net of that movie. That was in my contract. And it cost $19 million. And it made $150 million worldwide. There's no net. That's how movie math works.
KS: So even you were not above being screwed by the system.
SD: I told my attorney, the next time you're negotiating my net profit for a movie, ask for a ham sandwich instead.
KS: 'Cause you'll get something.
SD: 'Cause I'll get something [laughter] (bold part added)
Merlynn
The biggest sources of piracy is in some overseas locations. Places like China and India copy movies and sell in their countries and other countries I've been to like Saudi and UAE. Korea had it's own bootleg going on too. With piracy in other countries where they can't stop it they should leave Americans alone--there is much less piracy going on here.
I'll teach you something right here about the industry.
GeorgiaGirl
Soulhacking
How can I take something that becomes infinite? If I steal something it deprives someone of the original they lose it forever etc. I don't have to live with anything. Your trying to what convince me and others I should feel guilty what are you a shill for MPAA?
GeorgiaGirl
Soulhacking
No its not. Theft and stealing require the original is taken we are dealing with infinite copies. I can't wait till science invents a replicator like from star trek and we start coping food. The food corps will try and say its illegal to use as its piracy to make copies of hamburgers.
GeorgiaGirl
I am always astounded at the number of you who think it is your right to have any digital content you want for free.
Piracy is theft. Period. You can say "everyone is doing it" or "movies are too expensive" or "they made enough money so why do they need mine" all day long, but you are still a thief.
Um, no, your definition of theft and stealing is wrong. Theft is taking something that doesn't belong to you.
But, hey--whatever helps you live with yourself, right???
Someone else in this thread (KnightLight, pg. 1) did a marvelous job explaining the fallacy of your logic, so I see no need to go into it again. Read what he said.
Also, whenever the main argument is that someone else must be a shill--that is clearly the sign that you have nothing to add.
You, sir, are unteachable. Carry on.edit on 21-3-2014 by GeorgiaGirl because: (no reason given)
Krazysh0t
I know piracy is wrong, but I also like to support things that unlock monopolistic corporate holds on various industries. The music industry got rocked by Napster and all the programs that followed it, it's time for Hollywood to feel this same punishment. The only problem I see with this is that as piracy starts to cut into Hollywood's profits, they will take less and less risks and rely on the guaranteed moneymaker movies.
GeorgiaGirl
I am always astounded at the number of you who think it is your right to have any digital content you want for free.
Piracy is theft. Period. You can say "everyone is doing it" or "movies are too expensive" or "they made enough money so why do they need mine" all day long, but you are still a thief.
championoftruth
Krazysh0t
I know piracy is wrong, but I also like to support things that unlock monopolistic corporate holds on various industries. The music industry got rocked by Napster and all the programs that followed it, it's time for Hollywood to feel this same punishment. The only problem I see with this is that as piracy starts to cut into Hollywood's profits, they will take less and less risks and rely on the guaranteed moneymaker movies.
You do realize that Hollywood never taxes because they use creative accounting.Every film lose money no matter how much it makes.
They are defrauding us by not paying taxes.
Soulhacking
The industry used bribes and influence to get copyright laws in their favor especially the DMCA. I can't believe so many people believe the industry propaganda. Hopefully you will a lawsuit letter one day yourself for believing them.
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sheepslayer247
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan
For example, if you happen to be in the market for a gorilla suit and have searched the web trying to find the right one, a banner could scroll across the screen during the movie advertising "XYZ Gorilla suits".