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You have left the evidence, friend, and have merely postulated your own beliefs where others have stood. This is no different than than what
you are writing against, and I fear we have entered the realm of double-standards and even superstition.
What??? Of course they're not the same thing.
Materialism admits that it can't know these things and so a leap of faith is required called the Anthropic Principle. The Anthropic Principle is a way
of saying Don't ask, Don't tell. Here's more:
In astrophysics and cosmology, the anthropic principle (from Greek anthropos, meaning "human") is the philosophical consideration that
observations of the physical Universe must be compatible with the conscious life that observes it. Some proponents of the anthropic principle reason
that it explains why the Universe has the age and the fundamental physical constants necessary to accommodate conscious life. As a result, they
believe it is unremarkable that the universe's fundamental constants happen to fall within the narrow range thought to be compatible with life.
The strong anthropic principle (SAP) as explained by Barrow and Tipler (see variants) states that this is all the case because the Universe is
compelled, in some sense, for conscious life to eventually emerge. Critics of the SAP argue in favor of a weak anthropic principle (WAP) similar to
the one defined by Brandon Carter, which states that the universe's ostensible fine tuning is the result of selection bias: i.e., only in a universe
capable of eventually supporting life will there be living beings capable of observing any such fine tuning, while a universe less compatible with
life will go unbeheld.
This is basically a big nothing burger and shows why materialism requires a leap of faith. It's essentially saying stop asking questions.
Why are there laws of physics?
Where did they come from?
Why does the laws of physics produce planet, stars, moons, life and the constants of nature?
How can random interactions of matter produce mathematical precision down to Planck scales?
Science in the context of materialism can't answer these questions and the Anthropic Principle basically says Don't ask, Don't tell.
The only thing we know that can take information and arrange it in a way to give instructions to build a house or build a car is the mind. Why does
the mind understand the universe? Why can we comprehend the instructions that build planets or moons?
The question materialist don't want you to ask is why this arrangement of the laws of physics produce the world that we see? Why does it have meaning
that we can comprehend through mathematics?
Materialism doesn't want to ask these questions because materialism can't answer these questions. So they're unremarkable and unimportant. Idealism
can begin to answer these questions because you're getting into the area of mind.
How can the arrangement of the laws of physics give us the universe that wee see through random interactions? How can random interactions give us the
law of gravity through random interactions? How can random interactions give us Planck constant or Bohr radius? How can it give us such mathematical
Again, materialism can't answer these question so they deem these questions unimportant. Idealism, Biocentrism and even a Quantum Mind can begin to
answer these things.
In fact, there's evidence that conscious intention is a force that can make random systems non random. These experiments have been going on for years
with things like random number generators and recently seen in the double slit experiment. I have something in front of me called a Mind Lamp and it
works using the scientific principles that conscious intention can make random systems non random and it works. I will have friends over and I will
tell them if we all start thinking about changing the color of the lamp it will start to change and they're amazed when this happens. This isn't
magic, it's science.
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