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HUMBLEONE
Are these the dudes that invented tartar sauce? Why don't they just move to the coast of Maine and hook up with the fried clam dudes? Ka Ching!
The sauce has been found in cookbooks since the 19th century. The name derives from the French sauce tartare, named after the Tatars from the Eurasian Steppe, who once occupied Ukraine and parts of Russia. Beyond this, the etymology is unclear.[3] In Europe, the sauce was used as condiment to steak tartare.[4]
conquest is conquest whether by violent or non-violent means and whats wrong with the nazi comparison if the actions by russia are similar to german actions prior to ww2?
intrptr
What about the US comparison? Our conquest list of countries butchered is a lot longer.
Sure, but it was General winter that stopped the Nazi's.
intrptr
And yes got ahead and compare Russians to Nazis. Who else is stupid enough to forget Hitler tried invading Russia, too?
intrptr
Who was the only country keeping us from world conquest before the Soviet breakup?
intrptr
We are playing Russian Roulette with an automatic pistol. Someone wake me…
A scapegoat that dictators / anti west nations like to use when they cant control their own people. When in doubt, invoke the US and imply they are to blame for the worlds maladies.
intrptr
There is no doubt who is to blame for the worlds BIG maladies these days.
Xcathdra
intrptr
There is no doubt who is to blame for the worlds BIG maladies these days.
Well lets see -
Crimea - Russia
Syria - Russia
Iran - Russia
The restoration of the boundaries of the former Soviet Union - Russia.
The push to start WWIII - Russia
Unlike Crimea, we have not annexed anyone. Russia on the other hand....
Feel free to list them on both sides for comparison please, or link to the source where your info came from.
Yusomad
Afther that one, we can all agree to call you out on the daftest statement of the year.
Yusomad
Syria a russian issue? I guess if you ignore the evidence against the western powers...
Yusomad
Iran? How about israel?
Yusomad
The restoration of the former USSR is something that wont happen, no matter how much you repeat it.
Yusomad
And, the push to start WW3 has been headed by the US and israel the whole century, if not a decade more so, what are you on about?
The restoration of the former USSR is something that wont happen, no matter how much you repeat it.
Nolimits
Don't see why Americans feel the need to comment on this topic, your country is made entirely of land confiscated from Native peoples.
ElohimJD
Nolimits
Don't see why Americans feel the need to comment on this topic, your country is made entirely of land confiscated from Native peoples.
Take the same current story with the same current conclusions, and have the OP from Belgium (or any other place besides US/Canada) and it is still as valid and as legit a topic of discussion right now on ATS.
Why should the nationality of a poster invalidate their contributions to the topic?
Why should the actions of men long dead in centuries past prejudice your acceptance of their descendants opinions?
FACT
Right now there are direct parallels between current events in Ukraine and historical events in Nazi Germany, you could also say there are parallels between current events in Ukraine and historical events in the USA (regarding Native tribal relocation), or historical events in Russia (Soviet revolution, extermination of Cassians; Tartars etc.).
All people should be allowed to voice their opinions on these current events and their historical comparisons, without discrimination from others based on the actions of their ancestors.
No American alive today was responsible for the "trail of tears" or the relocation of Native Americans in the 1800's.
There are however Russians alive today (Putin) who are responsible for like minded actions of direct historical comparison; regarding relocating Native peoples in a sovereign nation.
God Bless,
intrptr
That comment reflects how history continues to sweep atrocities under the rug.
intrptr
You mean all the way back to the beginning?
Sheez… how about just after WWII…
Link
Anti War Socialist with a taste for freedom
List of countries the USA has bombed since the end of World War II:
China 1945-46
Korea 1950-53
China 1950-53
Guatemala 1954
Indonesia 1958
Cuba 1959-60
Guatemala 1960
Belgian Congo 1964
Guatemala 1964
Dominican Republic 1965-66
Peru 1965
Laos 1964-73
Vietnam 1961-73
Cambodia 1969-70
Guatemala 1967-69
Lebanon 1982-84
Grenada 1983-84
Libya 1986
El Salvador 1981-92
Nicaragua 1981-90
Libya 1986
Iran 1987-88
Libya 1989
Panama 1989-90
Iraq 1991-
Kuwait 1991
Somalia 1992-94
Croatia 1994 (only Serbian areas of Croatia)
Bosnia 1995 (only Serbian areas of Bosnia)
Iran 1998 (airliner)
Sudan 1998
Afghanistan 1998
Yugoslavia 1999
Afghanistan 2001-
Pakistan 2003-
Libya 2011-
30 Mar 2011 8:58 PM
intrptr
You can't rightly say we won any of these conflicts as empires don't actually win their conquests over so to speak. That's not the intent anyway.
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intrptr
World conquest is about destabilizing a region (or the whole world for that matter) so as to make it impossible or nearly impossible for enemies to fight BACK
intrptr
We are good at it. Sir George said it better than me. You can see my other post this thread…
The thing about war is to wage it in the name of defense or "Humanitarian" grounds all the while full knowing what is really going on is whole sale murder and exploitation of peoples and their countries resources. Its a "pretend we are the good guys game" and denying there is any wrong doing.
Kind of like your posts…
bubab
You can have your Hitler parallel if we can have our Kosov parallel
Fair trade?
bubab
You can have your Hitler parallel if we can have our Kosov parallel
Fair trade?
Xcathdra
bubab
You can have your Hitler parallel if we can have our Kosov parallel
Fair trade?
You may want to rethink that position since Russia was involved in all of that mess. They were even a part of KFOR, along with EU / NATO countries.
Secondly comparing the 2 is like comparing oranges to the ruble - its not comparable because they are 2 completely different situations.
Third has the US annexed that region?
Has Russia annexed Crimea?
Nolimits
Don't see why Americans feel the need to comment on this topic, your country is made entirely of land confiscated from Native peoples.
intrptr
reply to post by namehere
conquest is conquest whether by violent or non-violent means and whats wrong with the nazi comparison if the actions by russia are similar to german actions prior to ww2?
What about the US comparison? Our conquest list of countries butchered is a lot longer.
And yes got ahead and compare Russians to Nazis. Who else is stupid enough to forget Hitler tried invading Russia, too?
Who was the only country keeping us from world conquest before the Soviet breakup?
We are playing Russian Roulette with an automatic pistol. Someone wake me… [/quote. " Russian roulette with an automatic pistol", that was genius!]