reply to post by Aleister
a very interesting topic.
interesting, is an understatement indeed!!!
unless of course you can tell me how fire alone removes the required 105 vertical feet of structural resistance consisting of...
...105 vertical feet of continuous support columns...
...8 floors of truss assemblies w/carrier beams...
...lateral, cross, and diagonal bracing throughout..
...tens of thousands of bolts and welds...
...all removed globally in WTC7, before 1.74 seconds, [when we see the kink form], so acceleration EQUAL to Gravity can ensue, GLOBALLY and UNIFIED
IMMEDIATELY following at 1.75 seconds to 4.0 seconds......as the 2005 NIST scientific investigation found occurred and 2008 NIST
you can go look in the NIST WTC7 report if ya want to for these quotes.....
NCSTAR 1A 3.6] "This free fall drop continues for approximately 8 stories, the distance traveled between t=1.75s and t=4.0s...constant, downward
acceleration during this time interval. This acceleration was *9.8m/s^2*, equivalent to the acceleration of gravity."
NICSTAR 1A 4.3.4] Global Collapse..."The entire building above the buckled column region moved downward in a single unit, as observed, completing the
"the damage from the debris from WTC 1 had little effect on initiating the collapse of WTC 7."
The NIST WTC7 Fig 3-15 shows the graph with the regression line yielding acceleration of 32.196ft/s^2. SEE the time interval between 1.75 and 4 is
2.25 sec. the interval where WTC7 does achieve a period of free-fall ACCELERATION.
Do you understand what SCIENCE says about the 2.3 second interval of collapse, "Indistinguishable from FREEFALL". The significance is NONE of the
gravitational energy is available to destroy the supporting structures, ALL converted to MOTION!
meaning, any bending, crushing, breaking the structural connections, removal of structural resistance, below the mass ACCELERATING, is occurring
without the assistance of energy from the mass accelerating. ZERO resistance.
Do you know where else we see those same numbers as we see in the unified steel frame, 9.8m/s^2 ????
open any science/physics text...."rate of acceleration seen by ALL mass REGARDLESS of weight toward the earth, at sea level, *~**WITHIN a VACUUM**~*
hmm.....the same numbers we see under 'CONTROLLED conditions, we have scientific PROOF of occurring globally and UNIFIED in a 47 story steel frame @
1.75 SECONDS, when kink forms, to 4.0s of the collapse....2.5 seconds later, it's done....6.5 second building collapse from FIRE we can't really see
from the windows.
NCSTAR1A-3.2]"It is likely that much of the burning took place beyond the views of the windows"
oh it doesn't stop here.......
the 2005 NIST scientific investigation did not find any reason why these three buildings failed on 9-11...
"No conclusive evidence was found to indicate that pre-collapse fires were sever enough to have a significant effect on the microstructure that would
have resulted in weakening of the steel structure." NIST NCSTAR 1-3C, p. 235
no evidence the type of joining methods, materials, or welding procedures used was improper NIST 1-3 p.99
recovered bolts were stronger than typical. NIST 1-2 p.133
"no core column examined showed temp. above 250C" NIST 1-3 6.6.2
NCSTAR1-3 7.7.2 "because no steel was recovered from WTC7, it is not possible to make any statements about it's quality"
2008 NIST officially claimed "NO explosives or accelerants were used to assist"....stemming from a 2005 NIST that DID NOT TEST to determine.
"NIST did not test for the residue from explosives or accelerants" wtc. nist. gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006. htm
so, what does the 2008 NIST do to remedy this...lol....they watch UTUBE!!!
NCSTAR1A 4.3.4] Basing the decision of "No explosives or accelerants were used" on videos that were recorded at the time of
[eyes open wide]....WICKED scientific huh!!!.....none the entire day based on 26 SECONDS of audio-less collapse video..
So, we have 2005 NIST not finding a scientific reason for collapse x3....now, ENTER 2008 NIST hypothesis crew whom is SOMEHOW allowed to IGNORE their
own scientific investigation, and claim fire not only caused collapse, but did so as NO OTHER building has done before, stated by Shyam Sunder at NIST
Shyam Sunder, all through the Q&A section at the end of the video stating, ....."brand new event"..."new phenomenon"..."there has *NEVER* been a
collapse like WTC7".
and the only supporting evidence they have are computer models which they refuse* to release the data that tells the models what to do...WHY?
I-M-O for ONE, that will show them the fraud they are, and *TWO*, because they have a Presidential Executive Order stating they don't have to prove
what ever they claim.
OtherSideOfTheCoin's thread presents data which I had not known before, especially on his excellent opening posts
lmao......and I presented it with the same i just presented to you.....and it ran.
why do you think he did that??????
refusing to respond to me.....as a 'truther', I ask questions and DEMAND the supporting evidence off the claims PUSHED as truth...
first come the asserted pushed claims, now 'truthers' here asking questions and demanding those answers....something we can all do.
I need NO evidence to do this......but is seems it surly helps to know what your talking about huh!!!!!!!
please direct ALL duh-bunkers to this post......show/prove me a liar at what I presented.