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Whistleblower and ex-World Banker Karen Hudes: 2nd species on Earth and in Vatican

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posted on Mar, 19 2014 @ 02:16 PM
reply to post by yamammasamonkey

she didn't just work for the world bank she was a senior chair lawyer and the legal structure is the power center of the world bank. she wasn't just a bank.teller shes was an "elite"

posted on Mar, 19 2014 @ 03:06 PM
reply to post by dawnguard

How would I be able to contact her and know for sure she was to receive and not someone else?

I couldn't quite catch the website.

posted on Mar, 19 2014 @ 06:05 PM

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posted on Mar, 19 2014 @ 06:39 PM
She said way too much that it just makes her seem like a conspiracy theorist instead of a whistlerblower. She should have focused on one topic (like if i saw a ghost, i will tell you i saw a ghost, not tell you about how i KNOW the after-life is supposed to be, or how the government lies about immortality, etc.) she mentioned things she has no proof of and couldnt 'back up' and went way off course- and that to me means she fell down the rabbit-hole and was spewing things she read up on and believes in.

posted on Mar, 19 2014 @ 07:25 PM

She said way too much that it just makes her seem like a conspiracy theorist instead of a whistlerblower. She should have focused on one topic (like if i saw a ghost, i will tell you i saw a ghost, not tell you about how i KNOW the after-life is supposed to be, or how the government lies about immortality, etc.) she mentioned things she has no proof of and couldnt 'back up' and went way off course- and that to me means she fell down the rabbit-hole and was spewing things she read up on and believes in.

Not necessarily. I'm not saying I believe her, BUT if she really was exposed to the info of the 2nd homo-species because of her access to the high level financial manipulations, the two go hand-in-hand and as such she aims to expose both the game and the players because without removing the players, another game is established. I would imagine a group with that much control over that large of segment of timeline has backup plans to their backup plans, so tearing down the financial game would hurt us more than them, and they remain in control while we suffer until such a time another whistleblower comes forth.

posted on Mar, 19 2014 @ 07:29 PM
reply to post by Char-Lee

Well as the old legends/myth/stories go those beings cane here and weren't supposed to. They were here to destroy gods creation. If this were true I think they are making good progress no?

Look I know this sounds far fetched, I too have my reservations and doubts, but I am just connecting some dots, throwing it out there.

posted on Mar, 19 2014 @ 07:43 PM
many of the people in this thread believe her and accept what he says, but when she talks about the 2nd species they say it's crazy talk and too far-fetched.
well, many 'average' people out there on th streets will say that the banking and gold stuff she says is crazy talk and too far-fetched. just sayin'.

posted on Mar, 19 2014 @ 08:42 PM
reply to post by Murgatroid

"100% pure 'hokum'..."

I'm not sure that you can dismiss such creditable criticism so easily. If Ms. Hudes' rambling interview was not evidence enough of mental illness the court abstracts certainly lend strong support to the notion that she is in fact crazy.

It appears that Karen Hudes was fired from the world bank in 2007 and thereafter unsuccessfully sued Aetna Life re: release of her med. records.

3rd Court Case.


They cannot understand what her claims actually are.

This is the same phenomena seen when interviewer's actually press her on her statements.
It simply turns out to be a feeling she has that is unfounded in fact.

Moreover Ms. Hudes is simply rehashing tired old crackpot theories in the vid. I find tons of erroneous claims, E.g. ' John Wilkes Booth was part of a catholic Jesuit plot to assassinate Lincoln'

Booth was not a catholic, he was a baptized and confirmed Episcopalian. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that he converted later in life. This was a 1860's anti-papist conspiracy theory and it was debunked long ago.

I mean come on... Nothing says crazy cat lady like meows in the background. (1:08)

posted on Mar, 19 2014 @ 11:15 PM
reply to post by redtic

She is crazy like a fox!
Could it be she is doing a David Ike and saying these things
because she is being threatened and now fears for her life!
Since Ike is still alive I guess she figures she has a pretty
good chance of surviving with this strategy!

Or maybe she sincerely believes that there is another species
that is pulling the strings behind closed doors! I mean it is a
brilliant strategy for controlling an entire planet of seven billion
people with minimal oversight! Whatever the case may be she is
no fool and I think there is serious reasoning behind everything
she says!

I have seen enough in this world to not doubt the possibility
of even the most outlandish of conspiracies. There is more
then we can ever realize in heaven and earth. We are
just very small parts of this very big universe and someday
we will all return to it makes no difference whether or not
we actually believe! Only our choices change what we
perceive to be true as it does the coarse of our lives!
The sooner we realize that this is absolute the sooner we
can walk the path devoid to indifference! Choose wisely
my fellow truth seekers!
edit on 19-3-2014 by nosacrificenofreedom because: (no reason given)

posted on Mar, 20 2014 @ 06:22 AM
reply to post by raedar

This lady is part of the disinformation campaign.

There is no "2nd species" in Vatican. There are no hidden human or alien species anywhere.

I have got the answers direct from the Master on this subject. The entire "alien" discourse is disinformation.

The JFK assassination was related to mafia and politics.

There may be multiple human races on earth but all races are visible. There are no hidden races.

posted on Mar, 20 2014 @ 07:19 AM
I saw this also. It seems clear that she is very much in touch with the banking system and how it is manipulated and weaponized. Her background lends a fair deal of credibility to her claims regarding this. Someone else must believe so too, for her to be targeted for attack the way she was. I am apprehensive and suspicious of her claims regarding a second species in the Vatican, though this may be interpreted as a good reason why we've been seeing so much 'passive ET disclosure' (for lack of a better phrase) in this generation. If a secret race was hidden on Earth, it would make sense to keep us looking to the skies. The Vatican probably would be an ideal place to hide. Why not use a HQ for one of the oldest and most powerful control methods to date? Again, I remain skeptical, but it would seem logical IF they were hiding and wanted to maintain a degree of control. I believe this is definitely worth talking about, at least.

posted on Mar, 20 2014 @ 07:45 AM
Beautiful and elegant and rings true as crazy as it seems. Not nearly as crazy as them coming from Mars because they destroyed their planet although that may yet be true also. But for a species to essentially live below with highly advanced technology and manipulate us seems very plausible and explains a lot. It also explains the disappearance of the great builders of our past, they simply went below where its safer and easier to conceal.

What's more, this would remove the eery feeling that they are so advanced to travel so far that we'd be a pile of canon fodder should fodder ever hit the fan. Instead of it being earth against some potential galactic federation for our freedom and end horrible for us, it could be something similar to the US fighting Afghanistan, granted the outcome may still be bleak but hope exists.

Their true selfs being masked is what empowers them. Again, if true, it would show an awesome level of understanding into PSYOP and Mind War techniques. Perhaps this is the control system Dr. Jacques Vallee was referring to. Curious. Thanks for sharing!
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posted on Mar, 20 2014 @ 09:09 AM

Always a tough call when you have someone with impeccable credentials, and at first they sound like a true whistleblower, but then they start going off the deep end, and you have to back away from some of the ideas because they're just too -out there-

I swear I've come accross this scenario multiple times in these circles over the years.

It's some kind of lying pathology. To get the "high" these people get from telling stories, the lies have to become more and more grandiose

posted on Mar, 20 2014 @ 09:12 AM
shes a mental

same meat different gravy...

posted on Mar, 20 2014 @ 11:34 AM

shes a mental

same meat different gravy...

If she's making any cash out of this spiel then she's not that mental.

posted on Mar, 20 2014 @ 12:15 PM
reply to post by DrumsRfun

Watching this now, but David Icke and Alex Jones inspired - no. I mean I get your point, but...

I fought thru the interview he did with the last Zulu Shaman, trying to ignore David as much as possible.
But when the Shaman said "NOT aliens" and that there were at least 36 humanoid species on - and IN - Earth that he knew of, David ignored it completely, and kept calling the reptilians "aliens" and "ETs".

Icke is consistently insistent that all UFOs and other species are ET, a very important thing to TPTB.
Just look at how many people on ATS can't admit there just might be even one flying disk created by human intelligence, ignoring that the government flat out tells us that the public is and always will be completely unaware of how advanced their tech is over what is seen in use or publicly available to us.

And I don't watch him much either, but I've heard repeatedly that Jones won't talk about the Jesuits, so...anyhoo...

IF she's saying NOT ET, that's a pretty big deal. Despite the fact that most reports of reptilian activity are in areas with either suspected underground bases or known DUMBS, and almost NEVER coinciding with UFO activity, nobody wants to admit what TPTB and the MSM don't want you to know anyway - they're here, and have been here, much longer than we have.
NOT ETs. Maybe they originated here, maybe came here from Dracos a zillion years ago - whatever.

I'm not saying that what she's saying or any of the above is true - just that they are two opposite sides of this coin, and she is on the one NOT shared by Icke, Jones, and TPTB.

posted on Mar, 20 2014 @ 12:25 PM
Could someone please give me one reason why you believe anything she says? Also, could someone provide a link to any legitimate source that proves that anything she says about herself is true? Employment records? Yearbook pictures? Anything at all?

posted on Mar, 20 2014 @ 02:10 PM
Working at the World Bank would put you right in the Nest of Demons; no wonder the woman sounds slightly 'off'. But on the other hand, what better way to take the sheeple's focus off someone than to label them 'schizophrenic' (who decides who is delusional?) or better yet, plant child porn on their computer and then arrest them for it (see Luke Rudkowski's YT video about just that, coming soon to a hard drive near you if you cause enough trouble).

The link to Karen Hudes' medical records lawsuit defines schizophrenia in such a way that anyone who believes in any religion could easily be defined as schizophrenic, if 'believing something not true' were the criteria.

That would be what? 99% of the global population? We've all been lied to about everything, all the time, going way back in time, so that anyone contending anything contrary is now a de facto lunatic.

It'd all be funny if the real lunatics weren't thoroughly poisoning the planet.

posted on Mar, 20 2014 @ 03:54 PM


what kind of head fits crowns like this?

somebody came out after the ice age and civilized people here and there.
we can't say exactly who they were yet either way

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It's the silence. ......

posted on Mar, 20 2014 @ 06:00 PM
Just stumbled on this page while browsing, an interesting source but I do not know it's voracity, nevertheless she is looking more legitimate the more I read.
The information does correspond and unlike the video in isolation provides also some link's.

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