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Texan Women To Busy For Equal Pay!

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posted on Mar, 18 2014 @ 10:31 AM
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There's a new PAC in town.

Red State Women PAC has been formed to help Greg Abbott in his race for Governor of Texas.

The PAC immediately took to the local airwaves to tell the good folk of Texas what a great guy Abbott is. As Attorney General Abbott opposed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act and the PACs spokeswoman Cari Christman was asked what the solution to wage discrimination should be.

Her answer?......"Women are Busy".




"If you look at it, women are... extremely busy, we lead busy lives," she explained. "And times are extremely busy. It's just — it's a busy cycle for women, and we've got a lot to juggle." "And so when we look at this issue, we think, what's practical?" Christman continued. "And we want more access to jobs. And we want to be able to go to get a higher education degree at the same time we're working or raising a family. That's common sense. And we believe that real-world solution is a more practical way to approach the problem."



Well, I'm convinced.

Will solutions such as this convince the voters that Abbott is the right candidate?

Are Red State Women PAC a good voice for Texan Women?

Does the Abbott Campaign really think so little of the Female Voters?




posted on Mar, 18 2014 @ 10:36 AM
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reply to post by BritofTexas
 

This seems a bit like a woman's right to choose.
What business does a man have telling this woman what to think about what she is paid?



posted on Mar, 18 2014 @ 10:39 AM
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Call me ignorant or whatever but I still dont get how there is a wage gap.

A job pays what the job pays. Do employers see a woman applicant come in and slash the advertised salary by 30% and say "sorry, that higher figure was a typo"?

If they could get away with that (apparently they are I guess) why arent businesses out there saving 30% of their overhead by only employing women?

Now, I can understand the broad statement of "77 cents per every dollar" when taking into account all jobs across all disciplines. Maybe more men are simply working in higher paying positions? That's different than two people running the register at Walmart and one earning 30% less for lack of a penis.

If that's the case seems a better fix would be to encourage more women to get into engineering or business fields.

As much as I've looked into it it all just seems like it's numbers fudging and fiction.



posted on Mar, 18 2014 @ 10:52 AM
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I work in healthcare and they do not advertise a job as paying a certain amount, they advertise a range... We pay techs $16.00 to $26.00 per hour to do the same job depending on experience and who hired you. I feel bad for the folks on the lower end of the scale as they will never make up the gap by yearly raises (3% max).



posted on Mar, 18 2014 @ 10:54 AM
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The "lone star" state?

Texas, its like this whole other country.



posted on Mar, 18 2014 @ 10:56 AM
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Word salad anyone? This gal almost makes Sarah Palin look good! I mean, other than expressing her belief that women are somehow busy as bees and don't have the time to worry with little things like equal pay, what the hell did she say anyway?

I'm not a woman so I can't really speak for them, but as a native born texan and lifelong resident of the state, I can tell you that politically speaking, Texas is really screwed up right now and nothing seems to be too insane for our GOP candidates to embrace.

How about the fact that he promises to continue refusing to accept Medicaid expansion under the ACA while Texas has the highest number of uninsured in America? How many single mothers do you think that will adversely affect?

Greg Abbott isn't good for anyone, man or woman, but it won't surprise me one bit to see him get elected and with sizable support from women to boot.

Anyway, F&S for the OP and just for the record, I'll be voting for Wendy Davis.
edit on 18-3-2014 by Flatfish because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 18 2014 @ 10:59 AM
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reply to post by BritofTexas
 


So women don't get paid equally in Texas?

Golly, they don't get paid equally in the White House!

*pfffft!*

Women.

Can't live with 'em, can't pay them fairly.

Amirite?



posted on Mar, 18 2014 @ 11:09 AM
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thisguyrighthere
Call me ignorant or whatever but I still dont get how there is a wage gap.

A job pays what the job pays. Do employers see a woman applicant come in and slash the advertised salary by 30% and say "sorry, that higher figure was a typo"?

If they could get away with that (apparently they are I guess) why arent businesses out there saving 30% of their overhead by only employing women?

Now, I can understand the broad statement of "77 cents per every dollar" when taking into account all jobs across all disciplines. Maybe more men are simply working in higher paying positions? That's different than two people running the register at Walmart and one earning 30% less for lack of a penis.

If that's the case seems a better fix would be to encourage more women to get into engineering or business fields.

As much as I've looked into it it all just seems like it's numbers fudging and fiction.


You called that one right.

I served in combat arms in the ARMY for 6 years.

Women cant ( for the most part, some can, but most, at least 9 out of 10 cant) the same duties as men in many fields.

It sounds all PC and well intentioned that women should make as much as men, but a woman cannot do the same tasks in all jobs as men, this is a fact of the human condition.

Yes one out of every hundred thousand people make it into the top 5%, does this mean everyone can? Absolutely not.

Thinking just because your were born human means everyone is equally capable of every job is flat out stupid.

Only idiots cant see a woman has a way harder time as a block masonry hod carrier and cant do the job as well as just about any man cant see this.

She can carry one block every 30 seconds, HE can carry 2 blocks every 15 seconds, this is the difference.

The sexes are not now, nor will they ever be equal.

Can men create life? NO!!!!!!

Do women posses the natural physical prowess of men? NO!!!

Every PR guy in the country just spit out his coffee, and had a knee jerk reaction because they are stupid.

This is the reality of things, this is real world, real life.

Sorry if it doesnt fit their imaginary world where everyone is born equally strong and smart and capable, but their version of reality is stupid. It isnt reality.

Some are better than others, some are lesser than others.

Anyone who thinks different needs to come back to reality and GTFO it.

Dogs and pigeons are not equal, if the dog catches a pigeon it is dead and eaten, if the dog doesnt, the pigeon flies away and the dog has no means of stopping or catching it.

Is this fair? NO!!!!


Is this the reality of the world? YES!!!


We are not all born equal, we never were, we never will be.

The sooner these idiots figure this out, the better off they will be.



posted on Mar, 18 2014 @ 11:11 AM
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thisguyrighthere
Call me ignorant or whatever but I still dont get how there is a wage gap.

A job pays what the job pays. Do employers see a woman applicant come in and slash the advertised salary by 30% and say "sorry, that higher figure was a typo"?

If they could get away with that (apparently they are I guess) why arent businesses out there saving 30% of their overhead by only employing women?

Now, I can understand the broad statement of "77 cents per every dollar" when taking into account all jobs across all disciplines. Maybe more men are simply working in higher paying positions? That's different than two people running the register at Walmart and one earning 30% less for lack of a penis.

If that's the case seems a better fix would be to encourage more women to get into engineering or business fields.

As much as I've looked into it it all just seems like it's numbers fudging and fiction.


Stemming from the old days when women were considered "help mates" and relegated to home making in accordance with Judeo-Christian tradition, men were the primary wage earners in the market place. As individual women began to buck this social edifice they met with opposition from the male dominated establishment. At that time, women were considered second class citizens.

Remember how when the Constitution was written, women were written OUT of the guarantees that were granted to men. This bias held over into the work place. Being second class citizens, discrimination was rationalized as second class pay. This has held over in the market place and continues today in the minds of what is still a male dominated power structure.

We don't see the unequal pay so much on the lower rungs of the economic scale. Minimum wage is minimum wage. Where the unequal pay still exists IS in the higher paying jobs such as engineering and business fields that you suggest women to seek.



posted on Mar, 18 2014 @ 11:18 AM
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"Women are busy"??? Seriously? Oh wait, we're talking about people who support Abbott. Silly me.



posted on Mar, 18 2014 @ 11:21 AM
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We'll said.
When I worked the engineering department for the state of Illinois they had to hire some females for maintenance department because they were screaming discrimination and how they can do the same work as the men, we'll they got their wish/nightmare.
Fast forward one year to their annual review and no extra raise because they could not perform their job duties that the guys were doing and of course they tried to fight it and long story short they no longer work there.



posted on Mar, 18 2014 @ 11:21 AM
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Basically, there's a wage gap because there can be, because of antiquated ideas such as the one in the OP vid and the other dumbasses who make and support statements of this kind. Then there are the companies that use this or rationalize it away in their heads that wage gaps are okay for women because women are a "second" income or whatever and women don't need as much money are gone from work more with kids and blah de blah. These companies use every and any excuse to hang on to more of "their" money.

It's very similar to companies who fire people mere months before they retire or discriminate against older people even though no one will ever be able to prove unless by some happy accident someone catches someone at the executive level or in HR in a recording or email discussing it. But we don't because they're secretive and careful about it. There's also no oversight and no morality, both of which would be hard to instill and/or enforce.

And when you try to bring a lawsuit...well let's put it this way...it's kind of like stores that will match any add. Unless you can prove that you're basically identical to the man who was hired to do the same job you were for more money in every way, down to the DNA practically...you're spending a lot of money to try to prove it and you're also pretty much SOL.



posted on Mar, 18 2014 @ 11:25 AM
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There is a significant number of Texans who embrace discrimination and unfairness towards minorities.

It's a nasty and corrupt state, that on some levels even exceeds the corruption in Illinois.



posted on Mar, 18 2014 @ 11:29 AM
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TerryMcGuire

thisguyrighthere
Call me ignorant or whatever but I still dont get how there is a wage gap.

A job pays what the job pays. Do employers see a woman applicant come in and slash the advertised salary by 30% and say "sorry, that higher figure was a typo"?

If they could get away with that (apparently they are I guess) why arent businesses out there saving 30% of their overhead by only employing women?

Now, I can understand the broad statement of "77 cents per every dollar" when taking into account all jobs across all disciplines. Maybe more men are simply working in higher paying positions? That's different than two people running the register at Walmart and one earning 30% less for lack of a penis.

If that's the case seems a better fix would be to encourage more women to get into engineering or business fields.

As much as I've looked into it it all just seems like it's numbers fudging and fiction.


Stemming from the old days when women were considered "help mates" and relegated to home making in accordance with Judeo-Christian tradition, men were the primary wage earners in the market place. As individual women began to buck this social edifice they met with opposition from the male dominated establishment. At that time, women were considered second class citizens.

Remember how when the Constitution was written, women were written OUT of the guarantees that were granted to men. This bias held over into the work place. Being second class citizens, discrimination was rationalized as second class pay. This has held over in the market place and continues today in the minds of what is still a male dominated power structure.

We don't see the unequal pay so much on the lower rungs of the economic scale. Minimum wage is minimum wage. Where the unequal pay still exists IS in the higher paying jobs such as engineering and business fields that you suggest women to seek.


So in your view the lion and the lioness have the same abilities and perform the same and equal functions?

Only in the retarded views of the human mind, can the 2 genders not recognize that both genders are not now, and never will be equal on all fronts.

I all species of mammal on this planet save one, the female bares and raises the offspring.

Only in one species of mammal does the this imagined view of sexual equality exist.


Women and men are not equal.

Women can create life.

Men no matter how hopeful cant.

This simple lack of logic is the problem.

Women are meant to take care of the young.

They are designed for it in all mammal species.

This is a fact that cannot be ignored.

Men cannot create life, they cannot lactate to feed the young, they do lack the ability to raise the young like a mother would.

Women are not as physically prominent as men, they lack the upper body strength of men( minus steroids) to defend the "flock".

This is the reality.

The sexes are not equal.

Women can create life(kind of important to the continuation of the species BTW).

And males are built to protect it and aquire resources to sustain it.

This is quite obvious to see, if you leave the PC stupidity out of it.


Ever wander what happened to America? This is what happened to America!!!!!!!!



posted on Mar, 18 2014 @ 11:29 AM
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You know what's unfair?
When I have to redo the work that somebody claims that they can do better then a man.



posted on Mar, 18 2014 @ 11:34 AM
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butcherguy
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This seems a bit like a woman's right to choose.
What business does a man have telling this woman what to think about what she is paid?


geez...because it's Texas, that's why....the men of the red states will tell women how much they can make, when, or if, they can use birth control, and of course they will tell women thy cannot have an abortion....you women down there are second class citizens, no need to worry your pretty little empty heads about it. the men will tell you how to live.



posted on Mar, 18 2014 @ 11:42 AM
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oblvion


We are not all born equal, we never were, we never will be.

The sooner these idiots figure this out, the better off they will be.


How sad for you to think this way. We might all be born different but that doesn't translate into unequal.

Is a disabled child LESS THAN a normal child.

Yes, physically men are generally stronger than women but most jobs today don't require physical strength. They require communication and interpersonal skills which in terms of brain development women are better at than men.

So why hasn't the wage gap been changed? Women should be making more than men.

It's because people like you take your *difference* and automatically interpret that difference as something that makes you superior.



posted on Mar, 18 2014 @ 11:47 AM
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So if you and I were on a job site that demands physical labor you think you should be paid the same or more even if you can't meet the demands of said job that I can do much easier?



posted on Mar, 18 2014 @ 11:50 AM
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TerryMcGuire

We don't see the unequal pay so much on the lower rungs of the economic scale. Minimum wage is minimum wage. Where the unequal pay still exists IS in the higher paying jobs such as engineering and business fields that you suggest women to seek.


How does that work? Is it like a secret how much your coworkers make?

Two Boeing aerospace engineers. Both been there 15 years. Both have the same title and status. But one makes 30% less because of a vagina?

There has to be more to it otherwise Boeing would just hire all female engineers and save a ton of money.

This Slate article seems to answer some of my questions:

The point here is not that there is no wage inequality. But by focusing our outrage into a tidy, misleading statistic we’ve missed the actual challenges. It would in fact be much simpler if the problem were rank sexism and all you had to do was enlighten the nation’s bosses or throw the Equal Pay Act at them. But the 91 percent statistic suggests a much more complicated set of problems. Is it that women are choosing lower-paying professions or that our country values women’s professions less? And why do women work fewer hours? Is this all discrimination or, as economist Claudia Goldin likes to say, also a result of “rational choices” women make about how they want to conduct their lives.
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Seems the "77 cents" talking point is bad science and when all things are factored including women choosing part-time work or taking decades off of work to raise their children are factored in the gap essentially disappears.

So it's all just more political BS used to sway voters. Figures.
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posted on Mar, 18 2014 @ 11:56 AM
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jimmyx

butcherguy
reply to post by BritofTexas
 

This seems a bit like a woman's right to choose.
What business does a man have telling this woman what to think about what she is paid?


geez...because it's Texas, that's why....the men of the red states will tell women how much they can make, when, or if, they can use birth control, and of course they will tell women thy cannot have an abortion....you women down there are second class citizens, no need to worry your pretty little empty heads about it. the men will tell you how to live.

The OP is faulting a woman for making the wrong decision... regarding a woman's issue.
The woman is voicing her opinion on a woman's matter.... the OP says she is wrong.




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