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Guinness Opts Out of NYC’s St. Patrick’s Day Parade Over Anti-Gay Policy

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posted on Mar, 17 2014 @ 04:43 PM
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Also, people like to use the word homophobic, but I think labeling someone as becoming extremely anxious around homosexual people just because they don't approve of the idea of homosexuality is a bit much.


Yes, but i would say that a individual who publicly states that homosexuality is a mental illness with out any proof of such claims is displaying homophobic behavior.

IF you dont like me calling you homophobic for making blatantly homophobic remarks then just dont do it in the first place.




posted on Mar, 17 2014 @ 04:45 PM
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magicrat
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Wait, you think it's okay to have a parade that promotes cruelty to gays? And you don't think Guinness tastes good? I'm not sure which to be more offended about.



sorry I offended you (NOT!) also i see what you were talking about. tried to fix it. pretty stinking drunk right now. does it meet your censorhip rules now? Great! I'm so happy about that. Yes. I think guiness tastes like garbage Problem with that? also, since your knit picking, maybe you should review the ATS policy on using copyrighted images for avatars, just sayin. have a great day. (and may St Patrick bless you!) see you in Hell !



posted on Mar, 17 2014 @ 04:46 PM
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Being into bestiality harms no one. Is that not a mental illness either?

And I the meant number of animals, not the number of species.
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posted on Mar, 17 2014 @ 04:47 PM
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alldaylong

Metallicus

PhoenixOD


Being gay doesn't have anything to do with St. Patrick and in fact it is offensive to many who celebrate this as a religious holiday.


Neither does blowing up cars with bombs but it never stopped the terrorist group the IRA from using the American St. Patrick day from being the biggest fundraiser of the year.


So all Irish are terrorists? I suppose Muslim holidays are only for raising terrorist funds as well because, you know, all Muslims are terrorists too, right?

That is a mighty enlightened view you have right there.




The poster stated "The terrorist group the IRA"

He didn't state that all Irish are terrorists.


You're correct. He brought up something off-topic with no relevance to the original post.
edit on 2014/3/17 by Metallicus because: Grammar



posted on Mar, 17 2014 @ 04:48 PM
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Of course that is wrong...the animal can not give consent.
Two people who are attracted to each other can so your statement is rubbish.



posted on Mar, 17 2014 @ 04:50 PM
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"A woman must not present herself to an animal to have sexual relations with it; that is a perversion."
Men aren't the only ones who can have sex



posted on Mar, 17 2014 @ 04:50 PM
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www.irishtimes.com...



Americans invented St Patrick’s Day, claim Americans
US embassy in Dublin releases video saying they started wearing green before us

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posted on Mar, 17 2014 @ 04:54 PM
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Fixed my post. Thanks for the heads up. like your avatar. which copyrighted movie did you lift it from? was it that one with Roddey Piper about the aliens that hide they're true appearance? you know, THAT COPYRIGHTED movie? anyway. have a great day. NOT.




posted on Mar, 17 2014 @ 04:56 PM
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Metallicus

alldaylong

Metallicus

PhoenixOD


Being gay doesn't have anything to do with St. Patrick and in fact it is offensive to many who celebrate this as a religious holiday.


Neither does blowing up cars with bombs but it never stopped the terrorist group the IRA from using the American St. Patrick day from being the biggest fundraiser of the year.


So all Irish are terrorists? I suppose Muslim holidays are only for raising terrorist funds as well because, you know, all Muslims are terrorists too, right?

That is a mighty enlightened view you have right there.




The poster stated "The terrorist group the IRA"

He didn't state that all Irish are terrorists.


You're correct. He brought up something off-topic with no relevance to a peaceful parade.



Would you like to re- appraise your comment?




posted on Mar, 17 2014 @ 04:59 PM
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boymonkey74
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Of course that is wrong...the animal can not give consent.
Two people who are attracted to each other can so your statement is rubbish.


What does this have to do with my OP? If you want to argue this BS then make your own thread or better yet IM people that offend you. Please and thank you.




posted on Mar, 17 2014 @ 05:02 PM
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My bad I guess I shouldn't ever speak my mind eh? to defend others and not to deny ignorance..ok.

Why not berate the person who started it eh? who posted nothing to do with the OP other than putting their view of homosexuality being an illness/mental problem?.
OP

Blah blah

Yeah I agree with Guinness..better?.
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posted on Mar, 17 2014 @ 05:06 PM
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alldaylong

Metallicus

alldaylong

Metallicus

PhoenixOD


Being gay doesn't have anything to do with St. Patrick and in fact it is offensive to many who celebrate this as a religious holiday.


Neither does blowing up cars with bombs but it never stopped the terrorist group the IRA from using the American St. Patrick day from being the biggest fundraiser of the year.


So all Irish are terrorists? I suppose Muslim holidays are only for raising terrorist funds as well because, you know, all Muslims are terrorists too, right?

That is a mighty enlightened view you have right there.




The poster stated "The terrorist group the IRA"

He didn't state that all Irish are terrorists.


You're correct. He brought up something off-topic with no relevance to a peaceful parade.



Would you like to re- appraise your comment?


No, this still has nothing to do with my OP which was my point.

If you want to start your own thread and justify how some guy with a camera phone giving commentary on the parade is relevant to the Guiness article then feel free. Otherwise, stop trying to derail my thread.

ETA: Apparently I have to explicitly state I don't support terrorists to make some people happy. So, no, I don't support terrorism in any form. I also still don't see this as the reason support was pulled from the parade or the point of the article, but whatever.


edit on 2014/3/17 by Metallicus because: ETA...terrorism disclaimer for the trolls.



posted on Mar, 17 2014 @ 05:13 PM
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I agree with the St Patty's committee in not allowing any gay signs. I actually just got finished writing my letter to Guinness and will follow with one to Heineken, and Sam Adams. Not that it matters much but they should know just how silly they were for boycotting over some perceived exclusion that really wasn't one at all.

Rights for all indeed. Would they have boycotted if it was a different group, rights for all right? Why not allow the KKK to march? or Perhaps allow straight people with signs that read "straight and proud", or maybe Mexicans with Cinco De Mayo signs.

This was a ST. Patty's day parade nothing else. Gays were allowed to march but were not allowed to advertise their sexuality. Where is there harm in that. No one was excluded. They simply wanted to keep the parade what it was meant for, St Patrick.

They made a non issue an issue, one step forward = two steps back, people (even the most tolerant) are getting awful tired of hearing about their perceived exclusions.

Would the Gay Pride Parades allow Black Panthers, Neo-Nazi's, Mexicans, Muslisms, and straight people all holding signs that coincide with their beliefs?


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posted on Mar, 17 2014 @ 05:16 PM
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boymonkey74
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My bad I guess I shouldn't ever speak my mind eh? to defend others and not to deny ignorance..ok.

Why not berate the person who started it eh? who posted nothing to do with the OP other than putting their view of homosexuality being an illness/mental problem?.
OP

Blah blah

Yeah I agree with Guinness..better?.
edit on 17-3-2014 by boymonkey74 because: (no reason given)


I apologize if I singled you out. I am just frustrated by the thread drift and that people might associate some of the idiotic statements made here with me and my post.

I don't like being told how to believe by anyone, and that includes gays, corporations and the government. That was my original intent with the thread.
edit on 2014/3/17 by Metallicus because: Clarity



posted on Mar, 17 2014 @ 05:18 PM
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Gays were allowed to be part of the parade, just not their banners announcing their sex preference.



posted on Mar, 17 2014 @ 05:19 PM
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I also wrote these companies and I totally agree with your statements. Most of the knuckleheads here defending gays marching in the parade are the same ones that will tell Americans they can't wear an American flag on Cinco de Mayo.

It gets old and you can't have it both ways.
edit on 2014/3/17 by Metallicus because: fixed autocorrect cirrection



posted on Mar, 17 2014 @ 05:23 PM
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This is as much about ensuring you are seen in the right way by a part of your customer base as it is about Guiness looking after gay rights.

Fact; Gay men drink beer and lots of it.

Supporting them by pulling out of a parade that won't allow them to take part = guaranteed support for the brand by them.

It's what you call a symbiotic relationship - I'll look after my customers and my customers will look after me.



posted on Mar, 17 2014 @ 05:24 PM
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Metallicus

magicrat
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Wait, you think it's okay to have a parade that promotes cruelty to gays? And you don't think Guinness tastes good? I'm not sure which to be more offended about.

How do you equate not allowing special interest groups to march as "cruelty to gays"?

Hyperbole much?
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I don't. Not at all. I was quoting something tencap77 wrote and later edited out, and being facetious since I didn't really think they meant "cruelty to gays" either. I thought the second part made the tone clear, but sorry if it wasn't.

I'm going to try to edit my post a bit, since it no longer makes sense.

To answer your question seriously, though - as I said, I don't equate "not allowing special interest groups to march" as cruelty to gays. Not what I meant to say at all.

I do kind of think that defining gay people as a "special interest group" is a subtle kind of cruelty, though. I've seen first hand the effect of being told that you're something less than the rest of humanity, or that there's something wrong with you, because of something that's a natural and intrinsic part of your identity. It does real damage to a person's sense of self-worth, and that has serious consequences. That's my opinion anyway.

And to come back to the topic, I applaud Guinness for taking a stand on this. Even if it is more about business than morality.



posted on Mar, 17 2014 @ 05:24 PM
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Metallicus

alldaylong

Metallicus

alldaylong

Metallicus

PhoenixOD


Being gay doesn't have anything to do with St. Patrick and in fact it is offensive to many who celebrate this as a religious holiday.


Neither does blowing up cars with bombs but it never stopped the terrorist group the IRA from using the American St. Patrick day from being the biggest fundraiser of the year.


So all Irish are terrorists? I suppose Muslim holidays are only for raising terrorist funds as well because, you know, all Muslims are terrorists too, right?

That is a mighty enlightened view you have right there.




The poster stated "The terrorist group the IRA"

He didn't state that all Irish are terrorists.


You're correct. He brought up something off-topic with no relevance to a peaceful parade.



Would you like to re- appraise your comment?


No, this still has nothing to do with my OP which was my point.

If you want to start your own thread and justify how some guy with a camera phone giving commentary on the parade is relevant to the Guiness article then feel free. Otherwise, stop trying to derail my thread.


edit on 2014/3/17 by Metallicus because: sp


So you are not happy with Gay's marching on the parade, but have no comment on supporters of terrorists marching?

The world has gone mad.



posted on Mar, 17 2014 @ 05:26 PM
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alldaylong

Metallicus

alldaylong

Metallicus

alldaylong

Metallicus

PhoenixOD


Being gay doesn't have anything to do with St. Patrick and in fact it is offensive to many who celebrate this as a religious holiday.


Neither does blowing up cars with bombs but it never stopped the terrorist group the IRA from using the American St. Patrick day from being the biggest fundraiser of the year.


So all Irish are terrorists? I suppose Muslim holidays are only for raising terrorist funds as well because, you know, all Muslims are terrorists too, right?

That is a mighty enlightened view you have right there.




The poster stated "The terrorist group the IRA"

He didn't state that all Irish are terrorists.


You're correct. He brought up something off-topic with no relevance to a peaceful parade.



Would you like to re- appraise your comment?


No, this still has nothing to do with my OP which was my point.

If you want to start your own thread and justify how some guy with a camera phone giving commentary on the parade is relevant to the Guiness article then feel free. Otherwise, stop trying to derail my thread.


edit on 2014/3/17 by Metallicus because: sp


So you are not happy with Gay's marching on the parade, but have no comment on supporters of terrorists marching?

The world has gone mad.


Shame on them for souring an otherwise happy parade. Same on stupid yanks for falling for it also.

I grow tired of hearing how yanks claim to be Irish. They know nothing of the Republic or the North.

When I see them giving money to fund them it makes me sick.



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