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sled735
reply to post by theabsolutetruth
Here is a video of the scientist sharing the news with the founder of the theory about inflation causing the BANG in the universe. He had worked on this for over 30 years!
news.yahoo.com...
edit on 3/18/2014 by sled735 because: correct link
In geometry, a golden spiral is a logarithmic spiral whose growth factor is φ, the golden ratio.[1] That is, a golden spiral gets wider (or further from its origin) by a factor of φ for every quarter turn it makes.
The spiral is the journey of life
The spiral represents attributes such as: Balance, Progress, Direction, Initiation, Centering, Expanding, Awareness, Connection, Journeying and Development. It is an ancient symbol of the goddess, the womb, continual change, and the evolution of the universe. In ancient Britain, the spiral seems to have been associated with the feminine as the doorway to life
Carl Jung, the famous psychiatrist, said that the spiral is an archetypal symbol that represents cosmic force.
It is thought to represent personal evolution and holistic growth, letting go, surrender, release, Awareness of the ONE within the context of the whole, connectivity and union with deities and cosmic energies, stars and more.
SUMMARY: We use the most up to date Milky Way model and solar orbit data
in order to test the hypothesis that the Sun's galactic spiral arm crossings cause
mass extinction events on Earth. To do this, we created a new model of the Milky
Way's spiral arms by combining a large quantity of data from several surveys. We
then combined this model with a recently derived solution for the solar orbit to
determine the timing of the Sun's historical passages through the Galaxy's spiral
arms. Our new model was designed with a symmetrical appearance, with the major
alteration being the addition of a spur at the far side of the Galaxy. A correlation
was found between the times at which the Sun crosses the spiral arms and six
known mass extinction events. Furthermore, we identify ve additional historical
mass extinction events that might be explained by the motion of the Sun around
our Galaxy. These ve additional signicant drops in marine genera that we nd
include signicant reductions in diversity at 415, 322, 300, 145 and 33 Myr ago. Our
simulations indicate that the Sun has spent 60% of its time passing through our
Galaxy's various spiral arms. Also, we brie
y discuss and combine previous work
on the Galactic Habitable Zone with the new Milky Way model.
You won't find Fibonacci numbers everywhere in the natural world -- many plants and animals express different number sequences. And just because a series of numbers can be applied to an object, that doesn't necessarily imply there's any correlation between figures and reality.
The human body: Take a good look at yourself in the mirror. You'll notice that most of your bodyparts follow the numbers one, two, three and five. You have one nose, two eyes, three segments to each limb and five fingers on each hand. The proportions and measurements of the human body can also be divided up in terms of the golden ratio. DNA molecules follow this sequence, measuring 34 angstroms long and 21 angstroms wide for each full cycle of the double helix
The universe was born spinning and continues to do so around a preferred axis – that is the bold conclusion of physicists in the US who have studied the rotation of more than 15,000 galaxies. While most cosmological theories have suggested that – on a large scale – the universe is the same in every direction, these recent findings suggest that the early universe was born spinning about a specific axis. If correct, this also means that the universe does not possess mirror symmetry, but rather has a preferred right or left "handedness".
theabsolutetruth
reply to post by NorEaster
Here is a simplified video of the recent discovery, though I guess this might not answer your specific question, it outlines the basic points.
Yes, it's gravity -- a force so constant and ubiquitous that we rarely notice it. Yet without gravity, the universe as we know it could not exist. As such, gravity plays a starring role in the theory of the big bang, the immense expansion event from which the universe's billions of galaxies herald.
According to Sir Isaac Newton's law of universal gravitation, gravity is an attractive force that acts on every particle of matter in the universe. The strength of the attraction depends on distance and mass however. If they're close enough, two particles of cosmic dust will gravitate toward each other. Meanwhile, the gravitational force of a planet will pull on objects much farther away.
In the early 20th century, physicist Albert Einstein built on Newton's findings with his general theory of relativity, which, among other things, explained gravity not as a force but as a distortion in the shape of space-time. A particularly massive object like a star warps both the time and space around it. Time itself passes measurably slower in close proximity to such an object and curves the otherwise straight path of speeding light waves. Gravity dictates the structure of the universe, from the way cosmic bodies form to the way they orbit more massive planets or stars.
Einstein also proposed that the universe began as a singularity, a point with zero volume and infinite density containing all the matter of the universe. Then the big bang occurred, rapidly expanding all that matter with enough ferocity to overpower the inward pull of gravity. Einstein also predicted that we'd be able to tell gravity was present during those early moments, thanks to gravitational waves (or changes in a gravitational field). All the resulting gas and dust eventually formed into the universe we know today due to gravity as well.
Gravity is one of the four forces of nature, along with electromagnetism, strong force and weak force. All of these forces are tied up in the big bang theory. Furthermore, Einstein's groundbreaking theories about the nature of gravity were central to the understanding of the universe he presented with general relativity.
So remember: Gravity isn't just the force that makes a clown's pants fall down. It's a key aspect of the universe, all the way back to the big bang.
theabsolutetruth
reply to post by NorEaster
Perhaps it is your perception of how gravity is postulated in various theories. Perhaps unification of theories might be useful. There is a video that might be useful on the link.
science.howstuffworks.com...
Yes, it's gravity -- a force so constant and ubiquitous that we rarely notice it. Yet without gravity, the universe as we know it could not exist. As such, gravity plays a starring role in the theory of the big bang, the immense expansion event from which the universe's billions of galaxies herald.
According to Sir Isaac Newton's law of universal gravitation, gravity is an attractive force that acts on every particle of matter in the universe. The strength of the attraction depends on distance and mass however. If they're close enough, two particles of cosmic dust will gravitate toward each other. Meanwhile, the gravitational force of a planet will pull on objects much farther away.
In the early 20th century, physicist Albert Einstein built on Newton's findings with his general theory of relativity, which, among other things, explained gravity not as a force but as a distortion in the shape of space-time. A particularly massive object like a star warps both the time and space around it. Time itself passes measurably slower in close proximity to such an object and curves the otherwise straight path of speeding light waves. Gravity dictates the structure of the universe, from the way cosmic bodies form to the way they orbit more massive planets or stars.
Einstein also proposed that the universe began as a singularity, a point with zero volume and infinite density containing all the matter of the universe. Then the big bang occurred, rapidly expanding all that matter with enough ferocity to overpower the inward pull of gravity. Einstein also predicted that we'd be able to tell gravity was present during those early moments, thanks to gravitational waves (or changes in a gravitational field). All the resulting gas and dust eventually formed into the universe we know today due to gravity as well.
Gravity is one of the four forces of nature, along with electromagnetism, strong force and weak force. All of these forces are tied up in the big bang theory. Furthermore, Einstein's groundbreaking theories about the nature of gravity were central to the understanding of the universe he presented with general relativity.
So remember: Gravity isn't just the force that makes a clown's pants fall down. It's a key aspect of the universe, all the way back to the big bang.
In the early 20th century, physicist Albert Einstein built on Newton's findings with his general theory of relativity, which, among other things, explained gravity not as a force but as a distortion in the shape of space-time. A particularly massive object like a star warps both the time and space around it. Time itself passes measurably slower in close proximity to such an object and curves the otherwise straight path of speeding light waves. Gravity dictates the structure of the universe, from the way cosmic bodies form to the way they orbit more massive planets or stars.
Space-time is 4 dimensional, not 2-dimensional.
NorEaster
Translate this to the same gradient force that affects a glass of milk that falls off the table on the side of our 3 dimensional planetary sphere that's NOT being pressed against by a 2 dimensional space-time "sheet"?
Nikola014
I love astronomy and I follow carefully everything about it. It's so interesting, but I just have this one question that makes my head hurts every time i think about it. Okay, I can accept that the Universe was indeed created with a big explosion, but my question is, what was going on before that explosion? Was there anything else? Was it just a one big nothing? Just emptiness?
Oh man...I don't understand how can people be sane while studying this...
AnuTyr
mbkennel
AnuTyr
I believe this physist is grasping at straws. Why do people have this idea that all matter spawned from 1 localized explosion.
Because the observational evidence looks like this and doesn't look like anything else.
It's impossible.
Why? Creation of matter through high-energy particle reactions is a known experimental fact, and the subtle symmetry breaking needed to make a matter imbalance is also a known experimental fact.
The facts are the other way around: the observations of large scale correlations of the CMB and Universe are actually impossible given relativity unless you have this phenomenon. The complex relationship of the angular distribution of polarization of the CMB just observed requires a fundamental explanation.
I don't understand anything you are saying.
What does high energy particles have to do with the fact that for this event to be possible, It would need to encampass the whole horizon from Right to left or top to bottom, Would be 1 massive star or 1 massive black hole in order for its explosion to even reach one end of our observable universe *farthest distance we can see* it needs the expandable energy, you can't just summon infinity density and expand it and expect that to be the answer for everything in the universe.
AnuTyr
Where does all this energy come from? Energy cannot be destroyed nore created, The energy that is released is all that was there to begin with. A particle does not have X infinity juels. If it was so, what is there to govern the size of atoms? What governs density if its limits are non existant?
You are suggesting it came from a tiny dot. I am saying that there is not enough energy in that tiny dot to acomplish such a task, The universe would have to be condensed first - all its galaxies colliding into one point. In order to release as much energy and matter that currently exists.
Since matter is being destroyed by pressures from intense gravity feilds. It has to go somewhere, And likewise for things to exist now.
Matter must be created in a constant stream.
But in order to obtain matter and energy, it needs to be present already within the universe. Therefore there must be an unseeable compressed energy which is re-expanding
to compensate for the rate of compressed mass.
It is more likely that galaxies recycle themselves, and that space is folded on itself
much of the information you are saying fits more with that idea, rather than 1 wholesome big bang. Our galaxy could be fairly new, and because of this the information we are gathering could come from any source,
When mesuring energy density in electromagetic waves you can get somewhat of an estimation of how big the volume of the mass that is exerting the waves.
There must be matter and energy being expanded currently, for everything to continue existing.
imho most creationists expect global supernatural revelation from the creator.
mbkennel
AnuTyr
Matter must be created in a constant stream.
That's an unsupported assertion.
But in order to obtain matter and energy, it needs to be present already within the universe. Therefore there must be an unseeable compressed energy which is re-expanding
yes there was, that's why it's called Big Bang
to compensate for the rate of compressed mass.
don't know what you mean by this.
^--- if black holes exist, They are eating mass. That means that in a short time. The entire universe would be devoured.
There would need to be a constant rate of expansion to compensate for the mass that is *destroyed*
It is more likely that galaxies recycle themselves, and that space is folded on itself
That's not what the laws of physics or observational evidence say
No, you can't, unless you have a specific physical model of what sort of mechanism produced them.
Just because you agree with the big bang does not mean that there is not scientists out there who think the possibility of infinite density is not possible. If you accept this model you are accepting a finite universe. Where the current mechanics of physics need not apply. This was stated, Even in the conference of the people who made these wave discoveries.
Its in the youtube video i linked....
They need to cope with a new form of physics.... So if you like the idea of rewriting that.
There must be matter and energy being expanded currently, for everything to continue existing.
Why?
I think I need to suggest gently that you have a tremendous amount to learn about the practice of modern physical cosmology. This is not a subject that you can just "think about it" and come up with useful ideas, unless you have decades of education and training and have been immersed in the leading edge of this subject.
No i think that you need to apply logic to this. How does all this energy get bound together?
You would have to compress every galaxy together. How does this happen?
And what compensates with the destroyed matter from gravity? Does this matter being destroyed elsewhere beyond our feild of view reach us?
Are we reciving the decaying energy? as it is being drawn to the closest point of gravity after floating amlessly in a cold spot of space.
Arbitrageur
Space-time is 4 dimensional, not 2-dimensional.
NorEaster
Translate this to the same gradient force that affects a glass of milk that falls off the table on the side of our 3 dimensional planetary sphere that's NOT being pressed against by a 2 dimensional space-time "sheet"?
The deformed 2-D rubber sheet analogy is a dumbed down portrayal of space-time distortion. I hope you didn't seriously think that was truly part of Einstein's theory but your post almost sounds like you thought that.
Matter must be created in a constant stream.
But in order to obtain matter and energy, it needs to be present already within the universe. Therefore there must be an unseeable compressed energy which is re-expanding
to compensate for the rate of compressed mass.