SEALs take oil tanker from Libyan rebels

Navy SEALs take oil tanker from Libyan rebels, Norfolk-based sailors escort it.

Not much information on this one.

WASHINGTON — A team of Navy SEALs has taken control of a stateless oil tanker seized earlier in the month by Libyan rebels, the Pentagon said today.
The SEALs boarded the tanker Morning Glory late Sunday in international waters in the Mediterranean Sea near Cyprus. Rear Adm. John Kirby said no one was injured in the operation, which was approved by President Barack Obama.

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Well, we stole it from them…

reply to post by nighthawk1954


THIS is the ship in the Med that loaded Libyan crude purchased from Libyan rebels that Libya failed to stop. It was STOLEN BY THE REBELS, so the idea that the SEALS stole it is rather absurd. It was a hijacked vessel. It was under North Korean registry, but the North Koreans cancelled it. It is nor headed back to Libya under escort of the US Navy. Both the Libyan govrnment and Cyprus requested US help.

Not your average pirated vessel in the Indian Ocean.

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reply to post by nighthawk1954

if i understand maritime law , doesn't it mean that the ship was legally the pirates salvage right .

so if this story is true , then it was the american seals that broke the law and should be charged as such .

intrptr

Well, we stole it from them…

Seriously? So if someone steals your car and you ask someone to take it back, THEY are the thieves?

That's what happened here, intrptr. A North Korean ship sitting in a Libyan port was STOLEN by a rebel group and sailed out of port. Libya tried to stop it and failed. The ship wound up anchored off of Cyprus. Libya and Cyprus asked for US help in taking back the ship. The US did--with no casualties.

And you say, "we stole it from them."? That's just ignorant.

tom.farnhill
reply to post by nighthawk1954

 

if i understand maritime law , doesn't it mean that the ship was legally the pirates salvage right .

so if this story is true , then it was the american seals that broke the law and should be charged as such .

Well, you don't understand maritime law, then. This vessel was stolen in port by a rebel group. Got that part? They sailed it out to sea. Now please explain how maritime law then grants salvage rights to the thieves. Please explain how American SEALS broke the law by re-capturing the vessel and returning it to the port from which it was stolen.

reply to post by schuyler


yes but did it not state in the report that no country has laid claims on the ownership of the vessal

schuyler

tom.farnhill
reply to post by nighthawk1954

 

if i understand maritime law , doesn't it mean that the ship was legally the pirates salvage right .

so if this story is true , then it was the american seals that broke the law and should be charged as such .

Well, you don't understand maritime law, then. This vessel was stolen in port by a rebel group. Got that part? They sailed it out to sea. Now please explain how maritime law then grants salvage rights to the thieves. Please explain how American SEALS broke the law by re-capturing the vessel and returning it to the port from which it was stolen.

What gave America the right to take this vessel? Let Libya take their own vessel back there is no reason for Americans to put their lives at risk doing other nations dirty work.

America: Lets steal some Libyan oil platforms
Libyan rebels: Lets steal some Libyan oil platforms.
America: Lets steal it back.

buster2010

schuyler

tom.farnhill
reply to post by nighthawk1954

 

if i understand maritime law , doesn't it mean that the ship was legally the pirates salvage right .

so if this story is true , then it was the american seals that broke the law and should be charged as such .

Well, you don't understand maritime law, then. This vessel was stolen in port by a rebel group. Got that part? They sailed it out to sea. Now please explain how maritime law then grants salvage rights to the thieves. Please explain how American SEALS broke the law by re-capturing the vessel and returning it to the port from which it was stolen.

What gave America the right to take this vessel? Let Libya take their own vessel back there is no reason for Americans to put their lives at risk doing other nations dirty work.

Both the Libyan government, from whose port the ship was stolen, and the Cypriot government, on whose territorial waters the ship was anchored, asked the US for help. They had the "right," under maritime law, etc., to take the ship. Whether you approve that or not is really immaterial. International Law, both maritime and otherwise, will clearly uphold this action.

The issue of ownership is that it was a North Korean FLAGGED ship. ("Flagged," of course, means the country of registry and does not denote ownership.) Once the ship was STOLEN, the North Koreans REVOKED the registration and disavowed any connection with the ship. That led to reports that the ship was somehow not owned when, in fact, it was technically not REGISTERED.

You can try to spin this anyway you want, folks, but the US did not "steal" this ship. That's an laughable contention. That's like saying the cops "stole" your car when they take it back from the thieves. Oh, those poor thieves! They must be victims, right? With the US Navy floating around no one can get in a day's dishonest work anymore. It's an outrage, I tell you!

buster2010

schuyler

tom.farnhill
reply to post by nighthawk1954

 

if i understand maritime law , doesn't it mean that the ship was legally the pirates salvage right .

so if this story is true , then it was the american seals that broke the law and should be charged as such .

Well, you don't understand maritime law, then. This vessel was stolen in port by a rebel group. Got that part? They sailed it out to sea. Now please explain how maritime law then grants salvage rights to the thieves. Please explain how American SEALS broke the law by re-capturing the vessel and returning it to the port from which it was stolen.

What gave America the right to take this vessel? Let Libya take their own vessel back there is no reason for Americans to put their lives at risk doing other nations dirty work.

Piracy is considered a global issue that all nations work together on. For example the international armada of ships that patrol the horn of Africa. If a US flagged ship is attacked everybody does not ignore while they wait for the Americans. This is pretty much common knowledge. On top of that the type of people that would be buying a stolen tanker of oil are people that the US would not want to have it. Also of course that nations friendly to the US asked. Also the funding from the sale of such a tanker would also no doubt end up in the hands of people who would use it to harm the US. And they only found two weapons on board so the risk was minimal to begin with.

buster2010

schuyler

tom.farnhill
reply to post by nighthawk1954

 

if i understand maritime law , doesn't it mean that the ship was legally the pirates salvage right .

so if this story is true , then it was the american seals that broke the law and should be charged as such .

Well, you don't understand maritime law, then. This vessel was stolen in port by a rebel group. Got that part? They sailed it out to sea. Now please explain how maritime law then grants salvage rights to the thieves. Please explain how American SEALS broke the law by re-capturing the vessel and returning it to the port from which it was stolen.

What gave America the right to take this vessel? Let Libya take their own vessel back there is no reason for Americans to put their lives at risk doing other nations dirty work.

Your posts are always good for a laugh. The right was given by the vessel's owners, that's who gave America the right.

NATO Loots Libyan Gold As Tripoli Falls
Precisely as we predicted last month, NATO forces and their Al-Qaeda backed rebels launched a massive assault on Tripoli in order to wrap up the looting and conquest of Libya

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these "rebels" are the people the country was stolen from in the first place
calling them rebels is just orwellian
dodospeak

and since when do seals work for the oil companies that are ripping off the whole world especially the american peeps?


see the fines that bp just paid for the gulf of mexico deep water horizon incident if you want to see who is stealing from who

reply to post by schuyler

And you say, "we stole it from them."? That's just ignorant.

So you're telling me we "took" that country down for its Brussels Sprouts?

My guess is the Multinational Corporations are stealing a lot of things from the Libyans.

And as a result they are reduced to Piracy to get money for their own oil.

Yes its crude, I don't care who "owns" the boat.

US NAVY SEALS shouldn't be helping libyans. they should be KILLING libyans. Just like the libyans killed the U.S. consular staff. I believe a couple of the people that died there were SEALS. And speaking of killing libyans, when do we start? they deserve a whole lot of payback from the US! I'm just wondering? why US NAVY SEALS? Why didn't they ask for help from they're good buddies the italians? french? british? germans? NO. They specifically asked for US help, and some idiot in the government said sure, why not. Funny. His lord Majesty Oh-boo-boo can rescue a ship but not his own consular staff? didn't hillary say there are aren't any US assets in the Med tht can do the things those SEALS just did? Thats why you can trust the Taliban but no king oh-boo-boo. Sounds like the libyans just asked for our help so they could make the U.S. look bad. That's what they do. I thinik we should start bombing bengazhi 24/7/365 and see how much the libyans like that? that's what they really deserve. Of course, when your brian trust is king oh-boo-boo, lord john "bag-o-lies" kerry and lady susan "lies like a big dog" rice, your boned. never mind being played by libyans. they got played by the persians! how sick is that !