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Parents, Lawmakers Fear Cursive Becoming Lost Art

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posted on Mar, 17 2014 @ 11:25 PM

While I agree we no longer need to use it, I think the next generation's signatures will look funny without it.

Current generations signatures already look funny. Most of the time they are squiggles and one or more dots.

posted on Mar, 18 2014 @ 02:28 AM
Yeah, it's pretty sad. It's been declining for quite a while now.

Cursive, or at least handwriting that incorporates partial cursive is essential not only for unique signature purposes, but it also allows one to write (write not type) MUCH much more quickly as opposed to printing.

IMO it would be tragic to see a society no longer interested to feel the need or want to write anything on paper anymore and have everything be electronic for a laundry list of reasons.

next generation, or the one after probably won't know how to write at all, it will all be typed electronically; a lost or soon-to-be lost art.. would not be at all a surprising development, or devolution, which ever perspective one assumes.

posted on Mar, 18 2014 @ 07:16 AM
Bugger cursive! It's bad enough trying to decipher illegible print, let alone illegible cursive! (Though it does look nice, I'll give it that)

I agree with SaturnFX - use the time once allocated to learning cursive to learning a skill more beneficial in today's world, i.e. coding! However if cursive is particular to a vocation or interest... learn away

And unb3k44n7, I fear that if something catastrophic were to occur from now, future humans, maybe still holding some knowledge of language, would not find much in the rubble to deduce our thoughts and knowledge - Harry Potter and 50 Shade of Grey... god help us!! Future archaeologists are gonna be bleak man! "We keep finding these fossilized 'tablets', there is evidence they were widely used, but any stored information is lost and our opinions and ideas on late-ancient mankind is highly speculative and full of holes." something like that

posted on Mar, 19 2014 @ 01:32 AM
Good. Hated learning it. Hated writing it. Good riddance I say!

Sorry, when I learned it back in the 3rd grade, I used to get into a lot of trouble at school and at home because my handwriting is awful no matter how many times I practiced.

posted on Mar, 19 2014 @ 05:58 AM
I'm in what seems to be the minority, whenever I write something I only write in cursive. My printing is awful.

That said, I'm still on the side that thinks we should get rid of cursive and use the time on something else. Most communication these days is digital which isn't in cursive. It's pretty much a dead system of writing.

posted on Mar, 19 2014 @ 06:10 AM
reply to post by Metallicus

that is strange because cursive is much quicker if you are writing. shorthand has become a lost skill but I am surprised to read the cursive handwriting is also becoming lost.

I know a lot of the kids in my Son's generation started using computer shortcuts: like 'b4 instead of before' etc

Even the word 'meh' is now an acceptable replacement for phrases such as : 'I don't care'

it is all changing... I have a dictionary from the 1800s and I will hang onto it and one day, I will compare a contemporary dictionary to that one.

posted on Mar, 19 2014 @ 08:07 PM

reply to post by Metallicus

that is strange because cursive is much quicker if you are writing. shorthand has become a lost skill but I am surprised to read the cursive handwriting is also becoming lost.

It's been pretty gradual and a long time coming. Even back in the mid-late 90's when I was in HS the vast majority of people printed. I would say back then maybe 1 in 15 of us would write in cursive. In my case it's all I've ever written in since the day I learned to write that way so it's very natural for me. Many people however haven't adopted it.

posted on May, 18 2014 @ 06:19 PM
Handwriting matters — but does cursive matter? The research is surprising. For instance, it has been documented that legible cursive writing averages no faster than printed handwriting of equal or greater legibility. (Sources for all research are listed below.)

Further research demonstrates that the fastest, clearest handwriters are neither the print-writers nor the cursive writers. The highest speed and highest legibility in handwriting are attained by those who join only some letters, not all of them – making only the simplest of joins, omitting the rest, and using print-like shapes for letters whose printed and cursive shapes disagree.

Reading cursive matters, but even children can be taught to read writing that they are not taught to produce. Reading cursive can be taught in just 30 to 60 minutes — even to five- or six-year-olds, once they read ordinary print. (In fact, now there's even an iPad app to teach how: named "Read Cursive," of course — .) So why not simply teach children to read cursive — along with teaching other vital skills, including some handwriting style that's actually typical of effective handwriters?

Educated adults increasingly quit cursive. In 2012, handwriting teachers were surveyed at a conference hosted by Zaner-Bloser, a publisher of cursive textbooks. Only 37 percent wrote in cursive; another 8 percent printed. The majority — 55 percent — wrote a hybrid: some elements resembling print-writing, others resembling cursive. When even most handwriting teachers do not themselves use cursive, why mandate it?

Cursive's cheerleaders sometimes allege that cursive makes you smarter, makes you stunningly graceful, adds brain cells, instills proper etiquette and patriotism, or confers other blessings no more prevalent among cursive users than elsewhere. Some claim research support, citing studies that consistently prove to have been misquoted or otherwise misrepresented by the claimant.

So far, whenever a devotee of cursive claims the support of research, one or more of the following things has become evident when others examine the claimed support:

/1/ either the claim provides no traceable source,


/2/ if a source is cited, it is misquoted or is incorrectly described (e.g., an Indiana University research study comparing print-writing with keyboarding is perennially misrepresented by cursive's defenders as a study "comparing print-writing with cursive"),


/3/ the claimant _correctly_ quotes/cites a source which itself indulges in either /1/ or /2/.

What about signatures? In state and federal law, cursive signatures have no special legal validity over any other kind. (Hard to believe? Ask any attorney!)
Questioned document examiners (these are specialists in the identification of signatures, the verification of documents, etc.) inform me that the least forgeable signatures are the plainest. Most cursive signatures are loose scrawls: the rest, if they follow the rules of cursive at all, are fairly complicated: these make a forger's life easy.
All writing, not just cursive, is individual — just as all writing involves fine motor skills. That is why any first-grade teacher can immediately identify (from the print-writing on unsigned work) which of 25 or 30 students produced it.

Mandating cursive to preserve handwriting resembles mandating stovepipe hats and crinolines to preserve the art of tailoring.


Handwriting research on speed and legibility:

/1/ Arthur Dale Jackson. “A Comparison of Speed and Legibility of Manuscript and Cursive Handwriting of Intermediate Grade Pupils.”
Ed. D. Dissertation, University of Arizona, 1970: on-line at

/2/ Steve Graham, Virginia Berninger, and Naomi Weintraub. “The Relation between Handwriting Style and Speed and Legibility.” JOURNAL OF EDUCATIONAL RESEARCH, Vol. 91, No. 5 (May - June, 1998), pp. 290-296: on-line at

/3 Steve Graham, Virginia Berninger, Naomi Weintraub, and William Schafer. “Development of Handwriting Speed and Legibility in Grades 1-9.”
JOURNAL OF EDUCATIONAL RESEARCH, Vol. 92, No. 1 (September - October, 1998), pp. 42-52: on-line at

Zaner-Bloser handwriting survey: Results on-line at

Background on our handwriting, past and present:
3 videos, by a colleague, show why cursive is NOT a sacrament:



(shows how to develop fine motor skills WITHOUT cursive) —

Yours for better letters,

Kate Gladstone
Handwriting Repair/Handwriting That Works
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