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Shots Fired at ET—The 1972 McChord AFB Incident (and who is Robert Collins?)

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posted on Mar, 16 2014 @ 07:41 PM
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Came across this account and I'm a little confused about it's source...

I'll get to that later though...

please read from the link below...


The 1972 McChord AFB
UFO Incident - Shots Fired At ET
By Former AFOSI agent c. 2001 Robert Collins
12-30-1
Preamble

This is from the files of AFOSI dated in October 1972. Note that Blue Book closed it's doors in December 1969 but yet here almost three years later we see that the Air Force is still collecting UFO reports then proceeding to classify them. No fictitious names or places were used in this report. The names and events are real..........Rmc

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Copyright 2001 by Robert Collins

rense.com...


As I'm sure you've seen, this was written by a man named Robert Collins—who was supposedly a "former AFOSI agent."

Collins writes that... "This is from the files of AFOSI dated in October 1972"...
Can this be verified? Can anyone find these files? Or do we just have to take Collins' word for it??

Collins co-authored a book with Richard Doty—a strange character in his own right—titled The Black World of UFOs: Exempt From Disclosure. He has also appeared a few times on Coast to Coast AM and they have included a short biography...

Robert Collins was career Air Force serving in the fields of Avionics, Ground Communications, Engineering Physics and Intelligence (Foreign Technology Division, Wright-Pat) gaining an in-depth understanding of all the career fields. After 22 years he left public service to pursue the subject of UFOs full time...



This thread was intended for research and discussion:

Did this alleged UFO incident really happen?
Was Robert Collins an AFOSI agent as he claims?
Where are these AFOSI files "dated in October 1972" that he speaks of?

Can anyone shed light on this? Is there any more information available?

Until we can verify that these files exist, I suggest we treat Mr. Robert Collins and his story with a fair dose of skepticism.





posted on Mar, 16 2014 @ 07:52 PM
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I was stationed at McChord in the early 90s. I have no evidence pro or con to support your OP, but I will say that it was considered to be a bit of an urban legend... possibly based on truth. No one knew for sure, of course... but rumors and legends about the supposed incident surely persist.



posted on Mar, 16 2014 @ 08:22 PM
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1. Did this alleged UFO incident really happen?
2. Was Robert Collins an AFOSI agent as he claims?
3. Where are these AFOSI files "dated in October 1972" that he speaks of?


Just my opinion:
1. Maybe ... Maybe not. Not knowing will keep the story alive in the conspiracy realm forever.
2. Irrelevant. So what if he was? AFOSI agents can make up stories same as anyone else.
3. If (and that's a big If) there was a classified incident report, it is still subject to certain retention requirements. I can't remember what those requirements are, but they are generally for a far shorter period of time than a declassification review period. Bottom Line: They probably would have been burned or shredded by some bored airman. I know.



posted on Mar, 16 2014 @ 08:45 PM
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Sometimes the devil is in the details so I did some checking…

The hand held radio mentioned in the article linked is indeed produced in 1969 and used by the Airforce security police. You can find that info in these two links…

HT 220 produced in 1969
search

The revolver mentioned as the weapon employed checks out too in here…

SW model 15 .38 revolver

So far, so good. Now, if any one else can confirm the emergency "555" phone number for McChord Air force Base at the time (I'm not that good)…



posted on Mar, 16 2014 @ 08:58 PM
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Thanks for the replies,

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Irrelevant. So what if he was? AFOSI agents can make up stories same as anyone else.


Not irrelevant. If he lies about who he is, it makes the rest of his story suspicious, wouldn't you agree?
I agree everybody can make up stories, however. Not arguing that point.




posted on Mar, 16 2014 @ 09:01 PM
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thesearchfortruth
Thanks for the replies,

reply to post by Snarl
 




Irrelevant. So what if he was? AFOSI agents can make up stories same as anyone else.


Not irrelevant. If he lies about who he is, it makes the rest of his story suspicious, wouldn't you agree?
I agree everybody can make up stories, however. Not arguing that point.

Excellent POV. I stand corrected.



posted on Mar, 16 2014 @ 09:53 PM
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Wow, what a report.
So 1972, estimated number of personnel involved, 20 or so, including response team?

And in the past 40 years, not ONE of these people has come forward? Are they all dead?
Does Stanton Friedman know of this case, or any of the other 200 million UFO "Researchers".

Was this THE moment, when a race of ET were about to meet the Earthlings?

Is this the classic "Klatu" moment, when he was about to hand a translator and instruction book on how to travel to the stars, to the humans but was shot by some frightened enlisted grunt.

Was the Alien hurt? Why did the Flying saucer wait around until the swat team came?

Where are all the witness statements held? Did anyone take a photograph?

What is a TACAN? Is it of some strategic importance, or an energy source, or weapons?

Great story tho, like the many others uncorroborated.

Maybe they were waiting for Ben Rich to take them Home??



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