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benrl
reply to post by SLAYER69
Seems like a much more peaceful way to get a regime change than say Drone strikes and rolling in tanks though don't it?
... so is this political dramaqueen thing over yet or...
Bassago
All assuming the Prez can give up his golfing and Russia doesn't turn us into radioactive dust as was mentioned on their TV tonight.edit on 136pm5858pm92014 by Bassago because: (no reason given)
Aren't we sick of this crap, international politics, and US foreign policy has been a disaster post 911.
Things like Iraq, NDAA, Prism, Extraordinary rendition, Drone strikes, Patriot act...
The fact I can't type this with out fear of some NSA government employee thinking Im some kind of "threat" makes it hard to see the difference here.
theabsolutetruth
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
Crimea was previously part of Russia and was 'given' to Ukraine as an appeasement,
albeit an erstwhile gesture as it was and is disputed as an illegal move in the first place.
As such Crimea has more than twice legally attempted independence, which Ukraine trashed.
The people there are ethnically Russian and they want freedom from Ukraine and have done for a long time, they feel Russian, they speak Russian, they have alliances to Russia, they want to rejoin Russia.
Despite international politics etc, this has always been the case, since it was given to Ukraine then annexed after the USSR. Fact.
Congrats to you on being duped by the US war machine (there's only one way, one democracy, one freedom and that's OUR way, OUR freedom, OUR democracy and the rest of the world can take a hike).
On 6 May 1992 the same parliament inserted a new sentence into this constitution that declared that Crimea was part of Ukraine.
Crimea voted itself to become part of an independent Ukraine!!
A "referendum" while under military occupation is not democracy - and if you think it is then I have no problem laughing at your naivety.
CJCrawley
If the majority of the Crimean population is Russian, it's hardly very surprising that, when asked, they would vote to be part of Russia. Duh.
By that logic, large areas of the UK should belong to India and Pakistan.
It's a cynical manipulation of truth by the gangsters currently governing the second most powerful country on the planet.
Let Russia trade with its mate, China; but the rest of the world should ignore and boycott these maverick states until they choose mature, responsible leaders to run their affairs.
The west could assist this process by not invading/bombing sovereign states without a UNSC mandate.
theabsolutetruth
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
The people there are ethnically Russian and they want freedom from Ukraine and have done for a long time, they feel Russian, they speak Russian, they have alliances to Russia, they want to rejoin Russia.
Which is none of the rest of the world's business.
Amazing how many people on this thread feel that they know whats better for the people living in Crimea then the actual citizens themselves.
Konduit
If Texas was holding a referendum to secede from the union back to Mexico.... would Russia have any right to interfere?
Amazing how many people on this thread feel that they know whats better for the people living in Crimea then the actual citizens themselves. You socialists better not dare to try to come to my country and tell me who I can and can't vote for.
The Ukrainian government was overthrown in a violent coup, and the people of Crimea have voted to secede to Russia. This isn't the first time Crimea has tried to separate from Ukraine. You wanted democracy, you got it.edit on 16-3-2014 by Konduit because: (no reason given)