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SLAYER69
the owlbear
Too many investors in petrochemical interests in east Europe...
Who is Russia for 500 Bob
SLAYER69
reply to post by the owlbear
I'm aware of that but these particular pipelines are fed by Russia.
Those and a Naval base are what this all about . Not what the people want.
Call it what it is.
benrl
well, Im a complete Isolationist that thinks the rest of the world can go f-itself.
MY strong preference in all of this is that as long as US citizens are not involved, and no US solider is harmed, WE need to stay the hell out.
People could list fake elections, children dying, rapes, dogs and cats living together, and MY response would be the same.
WE have to remove the log from our own eye, before we go take it from Putins.
There's an esoteric maneuver to get around a threatened veto: invoking the obscure U.N. Resolution 377, also known as the "Uniting for Peace" Resolution. In early 1950, the United States pushed through the resolution as a means of circumventing possible Soviet vetoes. The measure states that, in the event that the Security Council cannot maintain international peace, a matter can be taken up by the General Assembly. This procedure has been used 10 times so far, most notably in 1956 to help resolve the Suez Canal crisis. Britain and France, which were occupying parts of the canal at the time, vetoed Security Council resolutions calling for their withdrawal. The United States called for an emergency "Uniting for Peace" session of the General Assembly, which passed a withdrawal resolution. (A simple majority vote is required.) Britain and France pulled out shortly after. Yet these non-Security Council resolutions are more symbolic pressure tactics than anything else.
The council still maintains responsibility for enforcement, so naysayers among the permanent members can likely prevent the actual dispatching of troops. Nor, as history has shown, will all nations buckle like Britain and France did in 1956. In 1980, the General Assembly convened in a "Uniting for Peace" session and passed a resolution demanding the Soviet Union's withdrawal from Afghanistan. The Soviets merely shrugged.
khimbar
I'm sure this clearly is the wrong sort of democracy, and therefore doesn't count. They'll be along to tell us this soon.
theabsolutetruth
reply to post by benrl
Exactly, it isn't any business of US or UK, they should back off.
The hypocrisy of either's attempts at denying Crimea the right for Independence is astounding. Have they forgotten their own recent history or conveniently sweeping it under the rug?
Democracy and Freedom? Yes only if it's on our terms?
“It’s all quiet so far,” Mateus Psikorkski, the leader of the European observers’ mission and Polish MP told Itar-Tass. “Our observers have not registered any violations of voting rules.”
Another observer, Ewald Stadler, member of the European Parliament, dispelled the “referendum at gunpoint” myth, by saying he felt people were free to make their choice.
“I haven’t seen anything even resembling pressure,” he said. “People themselves want to have their say.”
Many were impressed by the turnout, which appeared to be so high as to have people stand in lines to get to the ballot box in the morning. The turnout for the referendum in Crimea at 17.00 local time (15.00 GMT) was 70 per cent, the referendum’s website said.
"The lines are very long, the turnout is big indeed,” a member of the international observer mission, Bulgarian parliament member Pavel Chernev, said. "Organization and procedures are 100 percent in line with the European standards," he added.
135 international observers have arrived from 23 countries
Nikola014
reply to post by SLAYER69
Aren't they protecting the Russian citizens there?
Same as when NATO and USA sent their troops to Kosovo, to "protect" citizens and to have everything under control?
Wait, are you telling me that's a LIE?! No way...
ketsuko
reply to post by WhiteAlice
I would point out that people should remember this if US states voting to leave the union.