Why Do Car Dealerships Fear Tesla Motors

It's disgusting that in America you have this government-protected racket of "Licensed Car Dealerships", if you want to buy a car you can't buy it from the manufacturer, you have to go through for-profit middlemen, who do nothing but add thousands to the buyer's cost. Dealers have heavily lobbied Congress to keep their status protected. It's the only industry that this is done in. It amazes me with all the talk by Americans about fighting socialism and interference by the Government that more people aren't upset about the whole racket of car sales only through this government sanctioned institution.

Yeesh...let's think this out.

Everyone switches to electric cars tomorrow...where do we get all the electricity from to recharge said electric cars?

Uh...Coal fired power plants & Nuclear fired power plants.

Okay - so i ask where do we get all this electricity from...kinda defeats the purpose - dont yah think?

Explain it to me - not sure i get it???

Seems like an Environmental wash to me...

Hydrogen fuel cells aren't really going to take off in cars. High-pressure tanks of flammable gas don't tend to be a good thing to have in motor vehicles (and before someone says gasoline is the same, they're not, hydrogen burns hotter and with a barely-visible flame, not to mention pressure storage). Plus, the massive infrastructure change required to go from a stable liquid to a pressurized gas would be incredibly expensive.

That's not to say hydrogen isn't the fuel of the future, though. It is, just not directly. Hydrogen (in the form of deuterium and tritium isotopes) is also used for nuclear fusion. Once we perfect fusion reactors, we've basically got close to infinite energy, and completely clean to boot. Pipe that energy into the electrical grid, and plug it right into your electric car.

perhaps because some of them seem to catch fire.....when driving through puddles (think thats what happend to the first one) or when left in parking lots.....

www.businessinsider.com...

Business Insider reports that a Tesla Model S suddenly burst into flames in a Toronto garage earlier this month. A source told the site that the car was not plugged into its charger when it caught fire.

tech.slashdot.org...



but other auto manufactures are making hybrids and electric vehicles so i think its slowly catching on after they get all the bugs out porshe for example has this beauty www.autoweek.com...

www.wimp.com... jaguars new hybrid

www.boldride.com... mclaren p1 so the super car makers are getting in on it so should be much more mainstream and common soon

news.boldride.com... hybrid evo with 500hp

news.boldride.com... audi hybrid with 600hp

www.boldride.com.../4 hybrid nsx from Acura with a V6

news.boldride.com... new supra ....hopefully


stpatricks.eliomotors.com... getting more mainstream and for the common person but they seem to not be in production stages yet

www.ford.com...|2125447954|61935386&ef_id=UxrgbAAAAdMf4fAL:20140315064430:s shows the complete "green line" from ford from efficent gas to hybrid from plug in to all electric tag line and slogan is the future is electric so i dont think they fear them

cleantechnica.com... merc is coming out with a Diesel hybrid (didn't know they had those) and this gives hope for catching on in the trucking industry

www.motortrend.com... complete list of hybrids and electrics for 2015 caddy has one

www.motorauthority.com... all electric limo

www.motorauthority.com...

so id say they dont fear them they just have yet to implement them as widely as some people seem to think,hell if you asked people 20 years ago the ammount of greener vehicles we have now they would have called us crazy. but still lots of progress to be made by lots of companies

reply to post by Bedlam


you have obviously not done the research my friend. It is possible and can be done with store bought products. I know technology like this wmrks. My bands singer runs his van off water And drove it from ontario to bc. You are the one being lied too. You didnt read the pdf I can tell.

They have been thwarting electric-alternative locomotion systems since the late 1800s, oil is where the money is. It amazes me that they have allowed production in the first place but meh...

BABYBULL24
Yeesh...let's think this out.

Everyone switches to electric cars tomorrow...where do we get all the electricity from to recharge said electric cars?

Uh...Coal fired power plants & Nuclear fired power plants.

Okay - so i ask where do we get all this electricity from...kinda defeats the purpose - dont yah think?

Explain it to me - not sure i get it???

Seems like an Environmental wash to me...

Let the free markets decude that.

Oil and car companys sould stop swinging the ban bat at everything.

snypwsd
reply to post by Bedlam

 

you have obviously not done the research my friend. It is possible and can be done with store bought products. I know technology like this wmrks. My bands singer runs his van off water And drove it from ontario to bc. You are the one being lied too. You didnt read the pdf I can tell.

Sure. Sure he did. Go to school, learn some physics, get back to me.

reply to post by 999zxcv


Elon Musk represents my view of what a true capitalist looks like.

I've done a lot of research on the Tesla models and they are, for lack of a better word, sexy.

They are viable, have a great range, extremely luxurious interior, sleek exterior, and reasonably fast. They are expensive, however. But I think as time goes by their technology will have wider market support.

The same thing happened when the Toyota Prius was introduced. They did not have broad market coverage in parts, mechanics who knew how to work with it, and a whole host of naysayers talking down the vehicle as unreliable.

Today, the Prius is one if the most reliable vehicles on the road. With used resale of vehicles with well over 200k miles.

I believe the Tesla is the Prius of electric cars. It will be proven and we will see the first gen models running along far into the future. With its unique architecture, finding used models with over a million miles, I believe, is not far from reality.

first electric cars are a dead end to short of range and the cost of electricity is rising fast.

The only way to run electric cars is to use nuclear power.
And that will never happen.
Or use fusion power and we have been trying to get that to work for 40 years.

Hydrogen fuel cells also will never work for the same reason.

Lack of power to make the massive amounts of power to make hydrogen.
I know i know what i say will be controversial but i challenge anyone to put the fact on paper to prove me wrong without making pie in the sky claims.

There are fuel cells that use liquid fuels that can be pumped through the same systems that are use today for gasoline.
and the fuel can be made from trash, biomass or even coal using the Fischer–Tropsch process.
en.wikipedia.org...
one is Butanol fuel.
en.wikipedia.org...
butanol fuel can be use in gasoline engines or fuel cells as a stepping stone to fuel cell cars.
www.appropedia.org...
It does not have to be stored in high pressure vessels like hydrogen or natural gas.

Other options are natural gas or propane fuel cells.
They can be use to power cars, trucks, RVs or rural homes.
One advantage of natural gas or propane fuel cells is when used to power homes or RVs they make heat from the fuel cell operation.
In homes and RVs this heat can be use to heat or cool(heat pump tech)the home at the same time it supplies power. a fuel cell power unit is clean and uses less fuel plus it has more then one use.

The more uses for these fuel cells the more are made. The more are made the less the unit cost.

reply to post by ANNED


I disagree. When it comes to range and speed Tesla Motors vehicles have overcome a lot of what used to make electric cars inviable. The have a range of over 300 miles on a single charge at 55 miles per hour. That means for city driving this vehicle is more than efficient when it comes to range.

projectvxn
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I disagree. When it comes to range and speed Tesla Motors vehicles have overcome a lot of what used to make electric cars inviable. The have a range of over 300 miles on a single charge at 55 miles per hour. That means for city driving this vehicle is more than efficient when it comes to range.

the average commuter only drives 20-30 miles to their work so one charge a week would be possible for most people and i can see a day when a spare battery for a Tesla is as easy as changing one in our cell phone's .

reply to post by speculativeoptimist


Ah, the old Edison vs. Tesla argument.

New Jersey was the home of Menlo Park and Thomas Edison's push for his own electric company establishment of why corporations get a lot of money by making sure Edison's electricity is more profitable than Tesla's, even if it isn't as efficient. The Edison based electric companies still reap benefits from nuclear energy, because the electric companies are distributing the power.

Tesla is anti-Edison, therefore Edison is anti-Tesla. If money can't be made off of it, they don't want to provide it. Simple as that.

999zxcv

projectvxn
reply to post by ANNED

 

I disagree. When it comes to range and speed Tesla Motors vehicles have overcome a lot of what used to make electric cars inviable. The have a range of over 300 miles on a single charge at 55 miles per hour. That means for city driving this vehicle is more than efficient when it comes to range.

the average commuter only drives 20-30 miles to their work so one charge a week would be possible for most people and i can see a day when a spare battery for a Tesla is as easy as changing one in our cell phone's .

I envision the battery system like a bar-be-que tank. Pull into a station and they swap it out in a few minutes. No need to really own the battery.

when i first came across the Tesla car in 2007 ? not long after i saw a video of a battery maker who had made some amazing battery he thought was going to change the world .

He sold his company to one of the big car makers then he was promptly put on gardening leave and locked out the battery then vanishes but he stated the patent had changed hand's to another Auto maker