Putin questioned the legality of the withdrawal of Ukraine from the USSR, the former head of the Mej

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posted on Mar, 14 2014 @ 10:39 AM
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Putin questioned the legality of the withdrawal of Ukraine from the USSR, the former head of the Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar people

** The link is Russian, the info below is translated via Bing so if anyone speaks Russian that can verify the article it would be appreciated. Also, I am not familiar with the Russian source - it is valid or is it tabloid? **


President Vladimir Putin questioned the legality of the proclamation of Ukrainian independence from the Soviet Union, said MP and former head of Mejlis of Crimean Tatar people Mustafa Dzhemilev after a half-hour conversation with the Russian leader. According to the Ukrainian Parliament, during the conversation, Putin did not deny the presence of Russian troops in the Crimea. Previously, an ardent opponent of Dzhemilyov Crimea, obtained the agreement of the Prime Minister of Ukraine Arseniy Yatsenyuk to talk with Putin took place, provided that the Member has stated to the President of the Russian Federation on the withdrawal of Russian troops from the peninsula, noted NEWSru.ua .


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If the above is valid Putin has come up with yet another legal argument for his illegal invasion of Ukraine - Ukraine illegally left the Soviet Union.

I am starting to wonder if Putin has some medical condition. His actions are becoming more and more rash, with no logic to support it.

A possibility -
While the West Watches Crimea, Putin Cleans House in Moscow


While the world awaits Sunday’s referendum in Crimea and nervously watches the Russian troops massing on Ukraine’s eastern border, the world is missing that, in Moscow, Vladimir Putin is busily cleaning house.

Yesterday, Russian journalist Leonid Ragozin wrote here about Putin’s renewed crackdown on the media: What began just days before the Olympics with a Kremlin attack on Dozhd, the last independent television station in Russia, has now extended to Lenta.ru, arguably the best news site in Russia. On Wednesday, the site’s editor-in-chief was fired and replaced with a Kremlin loyalist, and the whole staff quit in protest. Yesterday, the Kremlin went full-China on the Internet, the holy of holies of the Russian opposition. Using some flimsy legal pretexts, it banned access to various oppositional news sites, to the website of Moscow’s biggest radio station, and to the blog of Alexey Navalny, who is currently under house arrest. Last week, the owner of Dozhd announced that, due to the clampdown, the channel is going to close in a couple months.

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posted on Mar, 14 2014 @ 11:02 AM
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Cracking down on the Media and cleaning house is all good.
Nobody in Russia disagrees with Putin, so, it's all good. Ukraine's legitimate independence from the Soviet Union should be questioned and their reinstatement into said now defunct Union should move forward with all expedience, even if and while said defunct Union no longer exists.

It's Russia's right to proclaim it so.

/Sarcasm
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posted on Mar, 14 2014 @ 11:21 AM
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The Ukraine is a valuable piece of land in that it has good energy resources and some of the best arable land in Europe. A lot of people are purchasing up farmland as an investment opportunity. Evidently even China may have purchased a strip of land the size of Belgium. I've seen denials of this report, so who knows?

While I don't agree with what he's doing, I don't view Putin as mentally ill or defective. He's just looking for any way to legitimize seizing control over Ukraine, which arguably could be seen as a smart move. With dwindling resources and increasing populations, I think the world can expect to see more conflicts over territories and regions rich in good farmland and clean water- it's going to be the new oil.



posted on Mar, 14 2014 @ 12:55 PM
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I can't verify as to the validity of the source but the gist of the rest basically is Cemil's conversation with Putin. Cemil does ask Putin what if the vote outcome is not to rejoin Russia? Putin didn't answer outright but said in a nutshell. What they would do would depend on the outcome of the vote.



posted on Mar, 15 2014 @ 06:25 AM
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As for the outcome of the vote in Crimea.. that question was based on a fallacy.

The ballot does not give for any option other than yes - join now or join later. Since the ballot are already filled out and the outcome certain, there does not seem to be any reason for Russia to even go forward with the sham elections in Crimea.

Putin is losing touch with reality and is seeing spies and plots everywhere he looks. The Russia people need to take action against putin before he leads Russia to its greatest defeat since WWII. Putins actions are based on nonsense, he has been stripping away the freedoms from the collapse of the former Soviet Union, and he needs to b told by his advisors that those days are over with.

He needs to resign or the Russian people need to throw him out of office using their constitution.
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posted on Mar, 15 2014 @ 12:11 PM
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Putin's going through with the vote purely for the sake of making it look "fair" before he takes it.
Another thing he said in the article was he believed Crimea is self proclaimed. It makes one wonder. If they didn't do it the right way back then like he said in the article why now all of a sudden after decades are you crying foul...

There's a reason, I guess we shall soon see.


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posted on Mar, 15 2014 @ 01:07 PM
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Mr Putin is forced by his own people to come to the aid of Russians across the border who once again are under attack by Nazi's and sure we can talk about the votes being fixed but it's the USA who is saying that allowing a vote on Sunday will lead to an asset freeze whilst at the same time Russia is allowing international officials in to monitor the voting and that's not something they even allow in the USA even with both sides being the same side.

Paying nazi thugs to kill a few protesters so that the USA can seize yet more land has backfired, they have been caught out red handed and it's time to pay the price.

Regardless of what the paid news trolls are putting out as news the facts remain that a lot of people in the Ukraine are pro Russia and with good reason IMHO



posted on Mar, 15 2014 @ 04:24 PM
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VirusGuard
Mr Putin is forced by his own people to come to the aid of Russians across the border who once again are under attack by Nazi's and sure we can talk about the votes being fixed but it's the USA who is saying that allowing a vote on Sunday will lead to an asset freeze whilst at the same time Russia is allowing international officials in to monitor the voting and that's not something they even allow in the USA even with both sides being the same side.

Paying nazi thugs to kill a few protesters so that the USA can seize yet more land has backfired, they have been caught out red handed and it's time to pay the price.

Regardless of what the paid news trolls are putting out as news the facts remain that a lot of people in the Ukraine are pro Russia and with good reason IMHO


Ok wait so in your opinion this is USA's fault and their killing the people of Crimea?
USA doesn't have it assets in there sure their in the region as are other countries assets.

You know if the people of Crimea want to rejoin Russia that's their choice its the manner in which it's being handled that
Looks suspect. The whole situation has been a cluster @$&# from the word go.
Everyone on all sides has an opinion, wants action/justice etc so on and so forth.
But it all comes down to a country that's split. Between the Pro Russians from Russia and the people of the land who are west ward thinking.

Now here's a question that's passed through many minds and lips. If a country becomes divided through it's ethnicticities as heavily as what we have here is it ok for this country or that country to camp out on said countries back door and demand and leave an air of intimidation saying their reasoning for this is to come to their countries peoples aid that are residing in another country.

Now before anyone gets all bent out of shape i'm not saying countries can't look out for their people but everyone needs to realize when a country's population grows with it ethnicticities this whole situation opens a can of worms for this exact behavior and rational to take place in another country.

So is the way this is being handled ok? Will Iraq, or China or what ever country say their people are unjustly treated or prosecuted in this country and come to their aid and want this portion of that countries land for their people. Yes I know the situation isn't exactly the same as Crimea but the logic is what's going to leave room for dangerous situations in the future.

Because that's not part of Russia's country their people are in that country and now Russia's going to take it back in the name of their people.

And for the argument that it was Russia's that fact is it was many decades ago. If they were cheated out if it I highly doubt it would have taken this long for Russia to cry foul.

Opportunity knocked and guess what they answered. I'm not saying the USA is innocent in some of their actions in situations but in this situation neither is Russia. The only people in life that are innocent are babies. This could be handled better.



posted on Mar, 15 2014 @ 04:35 PM
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Ukraine is a sovereign country or it isn't.If it is Russia has no business dispatching troops to Crimea and should withdraw immediately.



posted on Mar, 16 2014 @ 01:09 AM
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TDawg61
Ukraine is a sovereign country or it isn't.If it is Russia has no business dispatching troops to Crimea and should withdraw immediately.


It is a sovereign country and Crimea is a part of Ukraine.





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