posted on Nov, 30 2004 @ 03:12 PM
ATS is far from being a perfect message board, but honestly (and not trying to kiss any asses) it is the best run board I have frequented on the
No one here can tell me that they have visited any internet community that is better than ATS, concerning the way things are run by the staff, as well
as the way troublemakers are dealt with. (Of course this only includes boards of a large magnitude, as I'm sure there are many boards no one has
ever heard of which have no problems whatsoever, and that's great...but ATS is way beyond that point).
Most other boards I have visited, if you post ONE or maybe TWO posts that are that of a troll, you will simply be banned without question. At ATS,
there have been many great hoaxers and con artists, as well as simple trolls and people looking to start fights. These people have all been dealt
with in a very diplomatic manner from what I can tell, and their side of the story is heard before a final decision is made about their future here.
And just the fact that moderators care enough to do this shows that they are trying to actually improve this community, rather than just police the
I have had a few run-ins with staff on occasion, I think everyone has. But at least if I screw up one day, people will understand maybe I am having a
bad day, maybe I am just very passionate about one certain subject and it hit me in the wrong way...this happens to everyone, and it has always been
handled well. Sure, there are some mods that make mistakes or take certain things too personally, but we all would in rare times if we were put in
the same position, and I know there are other mods who could make a decision other than the one disagreeing with me. I am very argumentative by
nature, and when I think back on some of the warnings I argued with mods about, I just realize it was essentially bitching...but I'm glad that they
took the time to explain to me why I was warned, why it was wrong, etc. instead of just banning me. ATS is run much better than almost any other
large discussion board. If you don't believe me, just go to any other large board and read through some of the topics.
I think the very nature of a "conspiracy theory" discussion board blurs the lines when it comes to trolling. I have read many threads that are so
far-fetched that I think the person making the thread just made it all up to see our reactions and then laugh at all the "loonies". On most boards
you would probably be considered a troll if you posted about nordic aliens, whereas here, it is practically the norm to read about such topics. This
makes it easier for anyone to write up some weird idea and pass it off as a serious discussion topic when they are just looking for a reaction.
It is good to challenge and question the system always, or else nothing will ever change. I think all problems and concerns should be discussed about
this board at anyone's will. But saying that "ignorance is winning" based on post quality and other subjective factors isn't really getting
anything done to improve the board. I would classify it as "bitching"...which is something we all do from time to time, but maybe it is more suited
for the rants forum. A better, more rational complaint to make would be about how you don't like how the board looks, how a certain forum is setup,
etc. And that is what the "comments" button is for. It is a bit tiresome to see posts that reiterate what has been said time and time
again..."ATS isn't denying ignorance, the people are crazy, no one loves me enough, etc etc etc". (This isn't meaning you Majic, but referring to
some of the past ats complaining threads).
Everyone that has been here probably feels that the discussion quality was better when they first arrived. Well, that could partly be true, but I
really don't think the quality has changed much from the status quo. Upon arriving here at ATS many people feel a sense of discovering all this new,
crazy, shocking, sometimes enlightening information. This is all fun until after a few months it starts to get old, and the threads look like the
"same old same old" information. You have to remember, that as a board grows, there will be many more "ignorant" threads, but also many more
"quality" threads. The overall percentage probably stays about the same, but of course the number increases with more activity, thus giving the
illusion of an overall board stupidity increase. (Keep in mind this is all your own opinion, and what is stupid to you is genius to someone else).
My suggestion is to come up with some new ideas of your own, create a new and well-thought out topic, and see what others have to say. Try to improve
the "quality" of the board through your own posts, at least those that YOU consider to be of high quality. If you really can't handle all the
"ignorant" posts, take a break. Just don't visit this board for a couple months and then come back later when it will seem like a new start.
Those who think the board quality is deteriorating are truely the ones losing to ignorance...as those who have been around long enough have seen the
different phases of the board, and know that, if anything, it is improving.
[edit on 30-11-2004 by Shoktek]