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Canadian doctor makes anti-Obamacare senator look like a buffoon

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posted on Mar, 19 2014 @ 04:14 PM
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macman
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Nose dive you say????

www.nationaldebtclocks.org...


That clock should be going going in reverse then, right?

My backwater redneck math must be off somehow.

I thought that a decrease meant the number would be going smaller.

If you can't figure out the difference between a deficit and debt, then you really shouldn't bother discussing finances.




posted on Mar, 19 2014 @ 04:21 PM
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NavyDoc
How do you know that? Do you know my responsibilities, debts, how many family members I provide for? That is a very glib and very ignorant position to take. You haven't a clue how much work people put into what people earn or who and what depends on their income and that snarky and ignorant position is typical of the entitlement crowd.


Nope...no clue at all!



posted on Mar, 19 2014 @ 04:21 PM
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So, since this is the case in Canada, I assume then that you all back the wars.
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We were in favor of Afghanistan...which is why we went.

We were not in favor of Iraq...which is why we didn't go.

Other than six CF-18's and some support staff...we had very little to do with Libya. Although...a few months into that Canadian pilots were refusing to fly some missions because we were given civilian infrastructure targets to take out....which had nothing at all to do with helping the people of Libya. Some opposed it...but not enough in the end to stop us from going. The only saving grace was our extremely limited involvement.

Other than that...all of the wars Canada has fought in have been fully supported by the Canadian people. Don't forget...our population is tiny in comparison to the US....every time we have to send our men and women in uniform out to risk their lives...there are very few people who are untouched by it....even if we didn't know them at all. We care deeply about the lives of our soldiers....and do not spend them lightly.

Case in point...



In case the player isn't working...here

Or this.....

I think this illustrates quite well the differences in our philosophies...from war to healthcare...we value the lives of our people above everything...even if it costs us...with nothing expected in return.


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posted on Mar, 19 2014 @ 04:22 PM
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NavyDoc
You don't even have a pure democracy and it's kind of funny that you don't even know what system you actually have.

I know exactly what kind of system Canada runs.


As for pure democracy, then you think it is perfectly fine that the majority can do anything they want to the minority as long as they have the votes?

Why would I want my system to be more American?

Oh, wait, that's not the official version, just the actual, so why worry about that!



posted on Mar, 19 2014 @ 04:23 PM
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peck420

NavyDoc
How do you know that? Do you know my responsibilities, debts, how many family members I provide for? That is a very glib and very ignorant position to take. You haven't a clue how much work people put into what people earn or who and what depends on their income and that snarky and ignorant position is typical of the entitlement crowd.


Nope...no clue at all!


Exactly. You haven't a clue. I find most leftist and socialist beliefs are based on not having a clue at all.



posted on Mar, 19 2014 @ 04:25 PM
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peck420

NavyDoc
You don't even have a pure democracy and it's kind of funny that you don't even know what system you actually have.

I know exactly what kind of system Canada runs.


As for pure democracy, then you think it is perfectly fine that the majority can do anything they want to the minority as long as they have the votes?

Why would I want my system to be more American?

Oh, wait, that's not the official version, just the actual, so why worry about that!


Gotta love the divert and insult.

So if you don't agree with that, then you don't like democracy? Why did you say you did? Did you simply did not understand what you were talking about or were you lying? Or what?



posted on Mar, 19 2014 @ 05:01 PM
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NavyDoc
Gotta love the divert and insult.

What was the diversion.



So if you don't agree with that, then you don't like democracy? Why did you say you did? Did you simply did not understand what you were talking about or were you lying? Or what?


So, you will feel better if I type out parliamentary every time I want to discuss democracy? Theoretically, we are still a Constitutional Monarchy, but seeing as our 'Monarchy' moves to the beat of our Parliament...it seems rather redundant bringing that up.



posted on Mar, 19 2014 @ 05:16 PM
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junglimogli

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We Canadians love our health care system, despite its annoyances sometimes. What we absolutely hate are the extortionist parking rates in hospital lots.


Agreed, but as an American who recently had to visit the emergency dept at a Canadian hospital, I noticed one thing ..
There were people who were done with their emergency visits and were actually waiting in the parking lots for others to show up, so they could give them their daily parking ticket, that they had purchased (CAD18 value), just out of the goodness of their hearts! They could have just as easily drove off and thrown the ticket away ..
I was so grateful, when one gentleman came up to me, and said please just make sure if you done soon, pass it onto someone who needs it ..which I did for sure ..
This happened on both times I went to emergency ..something that I have never seen happen in America ..
Canadians definitely have more empathy and humanity ..its not all about money, but helping others in any small way they can ..
I think if people just think like that, parking fees would not be too much of a hassle ..


People do that here too. Hell, I've seen it and have done it myself at the beach! If there's time left on a ticket, people will pass it on and I've done it as well. Seemed like a waste not to. So then Canadians are not the only people with compassion. If people do this at the beach, I imagine that if we had to do the same at hospitals, people certainly would.



posted on Mar, 19 2014 @ 07:02 PM
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That is the point. There would be no blessing if we were forced. I believe the blessing comes after we die.

Each to his own.



posted on Mar, 20 2014 @ 08:25 AM
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Oh, because Bush was filmed numerous times just months ago drunk, high and everything else????


Don't forget, we also have a self professed drug user as the President.



posted on Mar, 20 2014 @ 08:28 AM
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Way to spin crap.....

It was in response to a direct statement where another ATS Progressive tried to use Christianity and a commonly misused statement to support forced compassion via Govt.


And still, regardless if you choose it, when it is a law, you are now compelled to abide by it.


I still have yet to see anywhere in life, where I want to do something, I then make it a law that everyone must follow.

Sounds like you need that chosen law there to reinforce something. Sounds very redundant.



posted on Mar, 20 2014 @ 08:29 AM
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We have a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy.



posted on Mar, 20 2014 @ 08:31 AM
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www.debtbombshell.com...


From the same site.

Maybe look around, before you open your mouth



posted on Mar, 20 2014 @ 08:37 AM
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TO sum it up.

Canada has a smaller population, which actually leads to the ideas and ways don't exactly equate to working in the US.

Canada did go to war, and approved of going before they disapproved.

And regardless of cost, you want the Govt to provide about half the things in life that should be left to the person to provide for themselves.

No problem.



posted on Mar, 20 2014 @ 08:44 AM
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So how on earth could ever push for the Govt to force compassion from people?

You really need to reevaluate how you look at Govt. The Govt breaks many things, including thou shall not steal, in order to provide for the "compassion" it hands out.



posted on Mar, 20 2014 @ 10:11 AM
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Govt to provide about half the things in life that should be left to the person to provide for themselves.
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I don't know what other way to say this....but the Gov HAS NO MONEY that they don't get from US. The Canadian Government doesn't OWN ANYTHING. They hold it in trust for the Canadian people. They are administrators of the resources of the Canadian people. The people of Canada create all the wealth used by the government.

So in every sense of the word...we do provide for ourselves....THROUGH our government. The difference here is that we have decided that we want to extend health coverage to EVERYONE. Regardless of ability to pay.

That was a decision made collectively by the Canadian people...we have not been forced to do anything.




You really need to reevaluate how you look at Govt.


I suggest you do the same. A government should exist to help make the lives of it's citizens better....not worse. What benefit does a trillion dollar bomber really give you...especially when there are so many starving, destitute Americans? Ask yourself why it is that your government allowed your banks to defraud American homeowners and steal their homes....and your government helped them do it and shielded them from prosecution....I could just go on and on.

Yet here you are talking about the Canadian government...come on man. Look to your own house...before you preach to others about theirs.


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posted on Mar, 20 2014 @ 11:12 AM
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deadcalm


I don't know what other way to say this....but the Gov HAS NO MONEY that they don't get from US. The Canadian Government doesn't OWN ANYTHING. They hold it in trust for the Canadian people. They are administrators of the resources of the Canadian people. The people of Canada create all the wealth used by the government.

So in every sense of the word...we do provide for ourselves....THROUGH our government. The difference here is that we have decided that we want to extend health coverage to EVERYONE. Regardless of ability to pay.

That was a decision made collectively by the Canadian people...we have not been forced to do anything.

So, here is an exercise that would ultimately display if your retort is in fact true to you the people controlling the Govt because you are in control of the money.

Withhold your taxes from the Govt.
I would like to see how that plays out.




deadcalm


I suggest you do the same. A government should exist to help make the lives of it's citizens better....not worse. What benefit does a trillion dollar bomber really give you...especially when there are so many starving, destitute Americans? Ask yourself why it is that your government allowed your banks to defraud American homeowners and steal their homes....and your government helped them do it and shielded them from prosecution....I could just go on and on.

No, A Govt is there to provide a few things, as outlined by the founding documents.
The US Govt is not here to make my life better. It is there to provide the few items as addressed within the Constitution and BoR.


deadcalm

Yet here you are talking about the Canadian government...come on man. Look to your own house...before you preach to others about theirs.

Geez, I don't recall actually every telling Canadians how they should function.

Seems more times than not here on ATS, foreigners stick their nose into the business of the US citizen.

There really is no reason for a Canadian official/doctor to go before our Govt, nor should the US Govt call them.



posted on Mar, 20 2014 @ 01:10 PM
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Withhold your taxes from the Govt.
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Why would I want to do that?




No, A Govt is there to provide a few things, as outlined by the founding documents.


Your governments founding documents...not mine.

How's it going with that Constitution of your BTW??




The US Govt is not here to make my life better.


Obviously.




There really is no reason for a Canadian official/doctor to go before our Govt, nor should the US Govt call them.


Agreed....it was obvious from the video, they already had their agenda in mind, and were trying to advance it by making wild claims supported by no evidence....as the Canadian doctor rather deftly illustrated.

Talking to your government is like beating our heads on a wall....who needs it?



posted on Mar, 20 2014 @ 01:51 PM
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deadcalm

Why would I want to do that?

As already stated. To demonstrate who truly is in control.

I am willing to bet lunch that should you withhold this, YOUR Govt would promptly come after you, regardless if you pay to fund them or not.

It establishes who is in control.



deadcalm


Your governments founding documents...not mine.

How's it going with that Constitution of your BTW??

Things would be fine if we weren't dealing with Progressives within the parties not only short selling us, but wanting more control as well.



deadcalm


Agreed....it was obvious from the video, they already had their agenda in mind, and were trying to advance it by making wild claims supported by no evidence....as the Canadian doctor rather deftly illustrated.

Talking to your government is like beating our heads on a wall....who needs it?


I agree. Please kindly regain control of YOUR Govt and the officials send over.

Also, please take back Justin Beiber.



posted on Mar, 21 2014 @ 07:35 AM
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I believe the Canadians on the thread are trying to explain that the canadians decided as a people, to provide universal health care. That is their right, yes?

This liberal understands that time has not come to the hearts of americans yet. I said I accept how my countryman are. I don't have to be happy about it. Conservatives can't control the human heart, as much as they would like to.



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