Originally posted by shmick25
Yeah, maybe this is why your society is so screwed up with a definite lack of distinct values - where the world watches in humour as your shows like
Jerry Springer reflect where the cultural values of your general population are at, where a government claims to be 'Christian' but their actions
show otherwise, where you have the highest rate of gun deaths in the world, where you cry freedom and liberty as it is being stripped away from you at
the same time, where your 'founding fathers' thought it acceptable to have a sub class slave system ...... the list never ends.
I do not disagree with your analysis; there are very real problems; but I certainly would disagree that those problems have anything to do with
America's refusal to become a theocracy.
It's not exactly headline news there are moral problems in America, but moral problems exist everywhere also. Palestine may not have immoral idiots
like Jerry Springer on its TV, but the USA doesn't have teenage suicide bombers either.
So the question begs, what are you exactly 'free' from?
Freedom is not a negative. In other words, we aren't free from
. Freedom, being a positive, is a freedom to
. Classical liberal theory,
which is the basis on which the United States was founded, holds that people have natural rights, and that the only legitimate function of government
is to secure those rights.
Do I believe that some people abuse these rights? Of course I do, it's pretty obvious. A poet once wrote that Freedom is a two-edged sword; one side
is Liberty, the other side is Responsibility, and both sides are exceedingly sharp. In my opinion, modern day Americans tend to emphasize the Liberty,
while ignoring the Responsibility.
But this is a matter of education; Americans today, at least in general, are much less educated than those in previous generations, and freedom can
only truly function in a society of educated individuals. To make it worse, many Americans are becoming more anti-intellectual, bringing them closer
to the level of serfs.
'Age of Enlightenment: Freedom' Interesting terminology. According to the Bible and the garden of Eden, this is exactly what the devil
offered Eve. So, not such a new concept.
This is a religious view, and has nothing to do with the state, which is secular (and which is my entire point). If I wanted to be governed by a book
of religious beliefs, I'd move to Iran. If I wanted to be governed by a pseudo-religious political orthodoxy, I'd move to Cuba or North Korea.
As for the actual using of the Bible as a textbook in public school, I remain opposed. That's what churches are for; schools are meant to teach
Nevertheless, Christianity is
an important factor in the history of western civilization, and thus Christianity should (and is) taught in this
regard in history classes. Likewise, Islam and Judaism must be touched upon when teaching history. But it simply is not the job of government to
indoctrinate children into this or that religion.
[edit on 26-11-2004 by Masonic Light]