Missing Airplane Flew On for Hours

Don't forget the plane just well disappeared. There is nothing on the plane they can turn off that will make the plane disappear on Radar. I read that if the plane had exploded , they would have seen the debris falling to the water and would know where to look. Same if the plane took a nose dive into the water. The plane vanished , it has not reappeared IMO. The military came up with the story they were tracking the plane at a lower altitude is BS.

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Live news brief from Kuala Lumpur; The head of the Malaysia Transport Authority speaking, has denied allegations made by the Wall Street Journal yesterday concerning the plane being in contact with Rolls Royce, maker of the engine for the Boeing 777 for an additional 4 hours.

He stated unequivocally that the last data transmission was at 1:07 am (their time) and the reports indicated that there was nothing wrong with the plane's engine.

Confirming the report by New Scientist he said the plane sent two data transmissions, one during take-off and the other as the plane leveled out for the trip to Beijing. Both transmissions reported normal conditions for the engines. The speaker again reiterated the last data transmission was at 1:07 (their time) and after they lost contact with the plane there was never another data transmission.

He repeated it has taken months to find other planes in the past which crashed. He says they are searching for a crashed plane and he believes they just have not located the plane yet. He stated they are using sophisticated equipment and it is a multinational effort to locate the missing aircraft. They are doing all they can, but it can take time.


Video: Malaysia Defends Missing Jet Search Nothing to Hide Over Plane Search.

LA1IMPALA
Don't forget the plane just well disappeared. There is nothing on the plane they can turn off that will make the plane disappear on Radar.

The radar has a point that it does not work.. if you have skill you can fly under the radar ceiling

ressiv
reply to post by NullVoid

try to find out how much rader there is on open sea.....:-)
if youre heading to un unhabited Island...



If thats the case, radar will show it go off the radar, not poof.
West side of location is pretty out of radar, but the plane poof while still in radar coverage.

The radar has a point that it does not work.. if you have skill you can fly under the radar ceiling

If the plane moving into radar limit, we still can detect it getting lower down, but thats not the case, the plane poof at 35000, didnt show it go lower.

The main problem people forgot is - radar show it poof at 35000 without any transition.
Probably it explode there and debris flown to other area, just a thought.

reply to post by LA1IMPALA


If the plane exploded or dived into the sea we would have found debris, body parts etc over a huge are. None of it.

I've been scanning through tomnod.com satellite images of the area - and found a lot of ships, oil drilling platforms etc. I.e. lots,lots of folks who could have seen and heard if anything suspect happened. Basically, it is not a void this sea area. And if there would be a debris field, this traffic surely will pop into it.

So, there must have been something very valuable, or very important in the cargo bay of that airliner.

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Have you scan the 3 China satellite reported area ?
Maybe can also pinpoint it for us.

I really hope that they find this plane...

theabsolutetruth
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Perhaps it was an opportunistic plan by either the pilot or part of a terrorist group / nefarious organisation, that either wanted use of the specific members (20 defense tech) on board or just the plane itself, worth around $284 million, there could also have been other items smuggled on board, even munitions transported from drop offs / pick ups along the way.

It could have landed on a planned private airstrip in an uninhabited location, refueled, resprayed, and flying off radar even now, to some desert / Iran / Afghanistan / wherever.

edit on 13-3-2014 by theabsolutetruth because: (no reason given)

If this scenario is thought to have occurred... then the officials involved in this search need to start looking at abandoned or off path airstrips or landing fields for passengers/evidence that may have been left behind or any evidence on where the plane was heading to next.

If the plane exploded or dived into the sea we would have found debris, body parts etc over a huge are. None of it.

Not necessarily. Without navigational beacons that transmitted data until impact Egypt Air would have never been found. The second dive was more controlled and the plane didn't break up until the last 500 feet.

Now I'm being told that the transponder was either disengaged or not functioning. The oil worker that saw a 'fiery object' impact the sea is not able to tell investigators how far away it was or which direction he saw it.

The last contact made South China Sea heading for the southern tip of Vietnam is somewhat vague and this area is deep ocean and mostly unexplored.

Why they have not released the exact longitude and latitude of that last contact is puzzling in the extreme.

I wonder if the plane had not vanished, if the world would have been told that two "stolen passport guys" who happen to be Iranian were on board. Or that was just for shock value. I have thought from the get go that announcing about the two stolen passports was sketchy at best.
Instant fear in the hearts of many that a plane will come crashing down into a building some where. Mental note to self: Never fly Maylasian Airlines.

Pilot could have been using the simulator to "teach" someone else how to help him fly the plane. Or planning a covert flight path avoiding radar. I'm shocked no one has said it was abducted by a UFO.

My thoughts on if this plane is still on tact..

Target a area in the radius it could of flown too by finding out if there was a abnormal supply of food bought or delivered near old airstrips.

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If the flight was detected on military tracking / radar is true and the pings from the engine, it suggests it was flown on for an extra 4 hours or a possible 2000 miles, if it was planned, (hijacking a plane and passengers is something that is mostly pre planned) with the intention of it never being found or it's course tracked, it could have landed at various planned private air strips to a specific itinerary.

I believe it was tracked by the military for at least an hour as that pinpointed the Malacca Strait that was searched early on, otherwise they wouldn't have searched the area at all.

The US investigators wouldn't have said there was tracking from the engine if they hadn't learned of it. The fact the Malaysian authorities denied it is par for the course from their perhaps deliberate confusion of the situation and the fact they admitted they know more than they can say.

And yes, if this is the true scenario they need to start looking at places it could have landed and could be now, and that includes places like the Middle East.

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Not entirely true. A Primary radar will still see it they just won't have transponder data.

openyourmind1262
I wonder if the plane had not vanished, if the world would have been told that two "stolen passport guys" who happen to be Iranian were on board. Or that was just for shock value. I have thought from the get go that announcing about the two stolen passports was sketchy at best.
Instant fear in the hearts of many that a plane will come crashing down into a building some where. Mental note to self: Never fly Maylasian Airlines.

Pilot could have been using the simulator to "teach" someone else how to help him fly the plane. Or planning a covert flight path avoiding radar. I'm shocked no one has said it was abducted by a UFO.

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The two Iranians using stolen passports were part of a human smuggling ring as stated by Interpol.

www.reuters.com...

I suggest everyone saying this has to be a hijacking (if it kept flying) look into Helios 522.

That was a 737 flying into Athens then on to Prague after a fuel stop. The flight stopped talking to their maintenance and ATC (they received several odd warnings after take-off). Upon arriving over Athens the plane started circling. When F-16s intercepted the flight they said everyone was slumped over, the oxygen masks were down, and the windows were frosted. The plane orbited until the engines flamed out from fuel starvation and it crashed.

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Hence that the military tracked the plane for at least an hour and if they were below height or somehow manipulated something / someone for escaping radar, in addition to transponder signal, they could have flown undetected.

If no secondary radar signals were received due to the transponder being switched off, the primary radar would have shown only as a blip on a screen with no ID amongst millions, therefore undetected.

www.cbc.ca...

There are two types of radar: primary and secondary. Primary radar sends out electromagnetic waves that are bounced off any object in their path — in this case, an airplane — and does not rely on the plane's transponder having to send any signals back.

"This primary radar can see everything no matter if the transponder is on or off, but the primary radar can't identify the object. It can just see a point on the screen," says Mikael Robertsson, co-founder of Flightradar24.com, a flight-tracking website based out of Sweden that gets about six million visitors a week.

Primary radar is generally used more for military air defence than civil aviation, which relies on secondary radar.

Secondary radar

Air traffic controllers who manage commercial air traffic rely on secondary radar, which also sends out electromagnetic waves, but when the plane picks them up, its transponder (short for transmitter-responder) sends back a signal identifying the plane.

This signal comes in the form of a unique four-digit code, called a squawk, that the pilot has entered and that corresponds to that specific flight.

Seriously, the so called "news reports" about this incident are nothing but annoying.

All we're getting from the media are contradicting "news" and statements which are withdrawn or denied again afterwards.
The released "images of the wreckage" with the blurry (and IMHO obviously smudged out) images by the Chinese are a joke as well.

And NOW all of a sudden the plane is supposed to have flown another 4 (!) hours...and some other "authority" is again denying this being the case. Heck we don't know ANYTHING about this incident!

reply to post by QuantumEffects


As of now, the best explanation seems to me to be that the aircraft lost cabin pressure via some sudden, violent action, everyone died quickly, and the plane flew on autopilot until it ran out of fuel and crashed. That scenario fits the available circumstances.

reply to post by theabsolutetruth


And they somehow missed the radar of every other country, every warship in the area, any military planes, etc?

A 777 doesn't do low enough to avoid radar. Not if it wants to go anywhere, and stay in the air if not done very carefully.

reply to post by Aliensun


Actually it was most likely a slow depressurization. A sudden one would give the pilots time to get their masks on. A slow leak might not be recognized untill it was too late.