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No cell phone or cable here. I am one of the most frugal people you will every meet. I cringe when I have to spend money on new shoes or clothing. My entire wardrobe could pretty much be washed in two loads of clothes. I don't eat out, I cook from scratch. I never drive anywhere that I don't have too and I stream line my trips to run errands to get the most out of it for the least gas.
I splurge on books and the internet, that is it. So now tell me what to cut out Obama? Give up my books?
Well, I guess I could save money by eating cheap junk food ruining my health so that I actually needed Obama care.
reply to post by jimmyx
As a cost he must pay, by force of law, without any options and for the very right to simply live in this nation? Yes. It's absolutely too much.
Although, to my thinking? $1 is too much under those circumstances and we're still dealing with the very first absolute cost to be an American resident our nation has seen in it's history. There are many of us who are not and likely will never be able to accept that. However good the cause it's for or whatever the basis for it's existence. It's an absolute tax to live as it stands now. Little else, for many in benefit, but it is that for all in cost.
however good the cause is?....you're kidding right?...how about, I don't want to be charged more for my healthcare, because some dumbass has to go into the hospital, and can't pay his own way (that little thing called taking responsibility) because he refused to get covered, even though he has job...we have enough people that don't have any income already coming into the hospital, and you want to add more?....where do you think this money comes from for the hospital stay?....a money tree?...piles of cash dropping out of the sky?
listen, the US gov't is as corrupt as any other gov't that has ever existed. Republican, Democrat, makes no difference. They are both owned and controlled by the same people. And yes Obama was seen as the saviour, as being different and someone who will make a difference. And in the end he's as corrupt and controlled as all the rest. (lets not go crazy though, George "I'm a moron" Bush still takes the cake). But put aside all the corruption and tyranny that your gov't is responsible for, and take a good look at what having universal healthcare would be like. Our system (in Canada) isn't the best, but my son needed open-heart surgery and received it. No line ups, no waiting, NO COST. He also required a couple of other surgeries that were also no waiting or cost. And he received the best quality care we have. He's right, most people don't care about healthcare until they or a family member needs it. Most developed countries around the world have some form of universal healthcare controlled and paid for with taxes. That's because they identify quality healthcare as a RIGHT that everyone should have, not just those lucky to be born into wealth. Having a "user fee" is good to detour anyone from abusing the system. But I have to say $315 seems excessive to me, especially for someone earning $36k. At that income level that same guy would be paying $138 up here. I also doubt that the US plan covers as much as ours does. For the most part, everything except cosmetic surgery is covered.
Anyhow, just saying that once you have universal healthcare you would NEVER let it go. If they attempted to take ours away, I think its the one thing that would make us put down our hockey sticks and beer, and pick up the pitchforks to take back control.
reply to post by xuenchen
I don't see how this is targeting the poor, they get subsidies on their health insurance. Someone making 36,000 a year would be considered middle class, 300 month for three people is a very fair price. I pay half that, make less, and thats with my employers contribution. I would have no problem paying that amount if I was pulling in what the person asking the question was, not to mention, Obama probably is right about budgeting. If you pay for a bunch of status symbols instead of keeping up with your health your priorities are out of order. I wonder how these people would fare if health care was taken directly out of their paychecks or in other taxes like in first world countries with universal health care. I guess they would all be bankrupt.
edit on 12-3-2014 by acmpnsfal because: (no reason given)
You are right it's not the governments place to prioritize your life. Just like it's not the governments place to bail you out when you go bankrupt because you had hospital bills you couldn't afford.