Indiana police chief accidentally shoots self at gun shop...

CONNERSVILLE, Ind. – Shooting himself in the leg is not the way Connersville Police Chief David Counceller planned to promote his candidacy for Fayette County sheriff.

Counceller’s 40-caliber Glock handgun accidentally discharged Saturday afternoon while he was at Wullf’s Gun Shop. Counceller, who was off-duty at the time, said he’d been examining a handgun similar to the one he carries.

First off, this is not an "accidental discharge" AD, it is a "negligent discharge" ND, by someone who should know better.

Terrible firearm handling by this police chief. Notice that after shooting himself, he sweeps the people to his right (screen left) with the weapon that just discharged. This isn't his first ND either, not what I want from a rookie patrolman, much less a police chief who is trying to become the county sheriff.

Please try to keep general police bashing to a low roar, but if you want to pile on the shortcomings of the Glock platform, feel free...

reply to post by Mirthful Me


Should there be any professional ramifications for showing such poor handling of something you've been trained to handle?

Actually, I don't know what the process is that LEO's have to go through for training after they graduate from the academy or whatever. ( if they even still have those)

Is there a requirement for them to re-test every few years?

~Tenth

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Your Youtube link doesn't work.

reply to post by tothetenthpower


The ramification should be that he is removed from his position as police chief, and come election day, the good people of Fayette county should repudiate his quest for the office of county sheriff.

reply to post by olaru12


Click again... I wouldn't want that video embedded either...

Wait, we can't bash those who deservedly should be based but bash a design no less flawed than any/ever other DAO sidearm? Say what?

FWIW the Glock design worked just perfect there. Don't believe me? It revealed the moron because only a moron would make that mistake.

Derek

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I forgot that the US elects it's local sheriff.

I like that a lot actually, I wish Canada had a few more American style policies like that.

~Tenth

I read this story on a firearm forum earlier this week.

It actually came out in the other forum, that this is the 2nd time this guy shot himself, he also shot himself in the hand a few years back.

Definitely should not be carrying a loaded weapon. Who or what will he shoot next?

EDIT: Wow I just watched the video, I had only read the story earlier in the week.

And since when is it considered OK to un-holster a loaded weapon in a gunshop? Especially without asking permission and clearing it right away?

Accidents happen even to the most highly trained people, shooters, drivers, doctors, whatever the profession may be.

This was an even worse one: www.jacksonprogress-argus.com...



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Errr...sometimes even twice it seems

I don't see it as a big deal, or a big mistake.

The Glock's passive safety mechanism is the culprit.

Cops wear alot of gear and a hang-up like this is inevitable.
On the plus side, the firearm would likely be in the holster
every time this type of errant rigger-pull occurred, so the only
damage expected would be to the officer's leg...and ego.


Personally, I never chamber a round until I want to fire, but
my personal preference probably goes against most police
force carry policy, because the fraction of a second lost
to chambering a round could be the difference in sudden
shootout situation.

Of course an active safety mechanism would work as well,
but that would also take an extra fraction of a second.

Tough call, risk your life, or risk your leg.

rival
Cops wear alot of gear and a hang-up like this is inevitable.
On the plus side, the firearm would likely be in the holster
every time this type of errant rigger-pull occurred, so the only
damage expected would be to the officer's leg...and ego.

I guess you didn't watch the video...

He was off duty in civilian clothes, he didn't have a duty belt on... The culprit was the drawstring on his windbreaker and his own foolishness...

The floor suffered as well...

reply to post by Mirthful Me


Uh-oh we better disarm the police. They obviously aren't responsible enough to carry lethal weapons. Think of the children!!!!!!!!!!!!

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If I think of the children, there are a thousand things to do... Eliminate the U.S. Department of Education would be a great start, so would doing away with reality TV and deporting Justin Bieber...

I could go on, but you probably get the idea...

demote him and limit him to only one bullet .. and he only gets that after approval in appropriate situations .. - make sure that its a dud round so barney fyfe doesnt shoot himself or anyone else

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He was drinking, drugged up, mentally unstable...

I'm sorry, but that crap does not happen to a sober, mentally stable person.

I'm pretty crazy myself, and have shot guns for over 20 years an never done anything close to this.....


Uh uh.. [fill in the blank]

He should be fired an banned from law enforcement, forever.

It that his excuse when he shoots an kills your reputable and reliant neighbor? Hmmm

I would never own a Glock handgun

I have known of two people that had ADs and there glocks were in a holster.
one was getting in a car and one getting out of a car.

No one hurt but the car seat and floor.
www.defensivecarry.com... l
www.defensivecarry.com...

I carry a 1911 or a Walther P38 and both can not have this type AD or ND plus if i run out of ammo i can still beat some with the gun.

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No bullet! How about the "wooden gun" given to Will Ferral in "The Other Guys."

Or plastic.. Give or take. BTW, Karma's a bi***, I think he had it coming, no?

reply to post by Mirthful Me

but if you want to pile on the shortcomings of the Glock platform, feel free...

What shortcomings?
Keep your G.D. finger off the trigger if you don't want it to go bang.
Couldn't be simpler, for most people.

reply to post by AK907ICECOLD


I disagree... I don't think he was under the influence, I just think he has no regard for firearm safety, and no respect for the power and lethality of firearms. There is no way he should have shot himself twice, and I have read that he has had a third ND that did not result in any injuries...

Either way, he's a menace with a firearm and it would be in the public interest for him to retire from law enforcement...

reply to post by Oaktree


Common sense isn't that common. He'd be better off as a rocket scientist IMO