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Satan was clearly jealous and hateful toward Job, couldn't get at Job because he was protected.
"Protected"? Really?! I'm pretty sure Job was "got at".
God told Satan he could have at it with Job but he was not allowed to kill him. So basically Job was protected.
You're right. You just convinced me. The OT god is the biblical equivalent of the resuscitation unit at Gitmo. That guy who keeps the victim alive while being tortured is "basically" protecting him.
No, but GOD puts his people through the fire and hammers them into shape, so that the end result is like a fine piece of armour, not easily broken. As we can see Job was then blessed beyond what he originally had. Its like we are clay and he is the potter. The clay must have the air pockets removed before it will make a proper vessel, so the clay is layed upon the ground and the air bubbles are stomped out of it, but the end result is much more durable than clay with air in it. Even then the clay has not finished its journey, it must be molded into perfection, if the shape doesn't hold, he molds again. Then the clay is placed in the fire and made hard. Cly that has not benn properly dealt with will simply crumble away as dust, armour that is not properly dealt with will bend and break. It's like iron and steel, which would you choose?
reply to post by Cuervo
Steel is also made with intense heat, that is just as important, and if you want steel to be especially hard, you quench it in oil, or annoint it. So you agree, steel is better, GOD agrees as well, thats why he will put your iron through the process, and will be exceedingly proud of the result.
reply to post by Cuervo
Job was put through a trial, not torture, you use words like that to demonise what you don't understand.
the action or practice of inflicting severe pain on someone as a punishment or to force them to do or say something, or for the pleasure of the person inflicting the pain.
If you think about it, there is less knowledge and wisdom gained from every good experience in your whole life, than in the worst suffering you experience. So own it, and you will come to understand, hindsight is 20/20, and I would bet that there are things that happened to you that don't seem so bad in hindsight as they did while they were occuring.
i had a job once, now i am retired.
satan is very real, the best thing he has done is make people believe he doesn't exist.
and you all are helping, him.
Job didn't know what was going on. did he?
his world was crashing around him and he never lost faith in God.
reply to post by stok3th3fir3
Jesus taught fundamental laws and never taught anything that was exclusive to the Torah, that you couldn't find in other religions or civil laws.
. . . TORAH is what JESUS taught.
Jesus created his own "Torah" as the lawgiver of the new covenant.
All of these ideas are also in the TORAH, after all TORAH is what JESUS taught.
reply to post by undo
So let me get this straight, humans were not made to procreate? This is rediculous, your story supposes these beings as very very STUPID. So they gave mankind reproductive organs but didn't want them to procreate?