Update: Malaysian military now reveals that the plane reappeared elsewhere

Isn't the engine data received via the ACARS system which was out. I think someone is making up facts.

Vasa Croe
I am going to roll with they landed it in the Maldives. Plenty of religious extremism there, airport could easily handle this plane, and if the right people were involved it would be the perfect place to refuel and prepare for something big. Conspiracy hat on. Would love to find out if the passport thieves are linked to any extremist groups. Fully fueled and without passengers I believe they could hit most major cities with this plane on the globe.

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Another interesting fact is that Iranians are not required to have a Visa to visit the Maldives for up to 30 days with no conditions of access...

Source

There are also PLENTY of connections between Iran and the Maldives.

While this is a crazy theory, I am still thinking it fits the scenario should this come down to a hijacking and storing the plane for later use.

Odd, and I have not seen this reported or may have missed it, but Interpol seems to think the two that were on with stolen passports are part of a human smuggling ring...

"It is part of a human-smuggling issue and not a part of a terrorist issue," Interpol chief Ronald Noble told reporters in France, adding that the international agency was more and more "certain that these individuals are probably not terrorists".

Source

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im wondering if the plane was indeed stored for later use if there is a way for someone to clone a transponder signal like a cell phone clone? does anyone have any idea about the possibility of that? i used to work at a private airport in NY, could probably ask around if no one knows but, i think that is a legit concern.

essentially, when the plane is ready for its "phase 2" operation, crashing into something or whatever. maybe before take off they can clone a legitimate, non-hijacked transponder. thus allowing the stolen plane to fly freely through the skies without alerting everyone and their mothers.

i also think that if there were defense contractors on board involved in cloaking tech and the like, that deserves some serious consideration as to how that information fits into all of this....

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This is what I was thinking too from the last position, and the flight changing direction, the Maldives is within the 4 hours and 25 min range. The flight had 6 hours give or take flying time. If this makes sense they need to look into the flight simulator and what was being simulated.

roadgravel
Isn't the engine data received via the ACARS system which was out. I think someone is making up facts.

Is there no secondary or failover way to report as well while in route? I have read the RR site about the system and it says the "primary" transmission is done through ACARS. Using the word "primary" would suggest to me there is a secondary or failover means of comm as well. I know if I was the engineer in charge of a system designed to report engine trouble, I would have built in a secondary, failover transmit as well....fairly common in the engineering models for programmers/computer engineers.

kosmicjack
It seems to me that one would need a crew member's cooperation to successfully hijack a plane post 9/11..

Also, if it entered the airspace of another country without transponder data or communication, is it possible it was shot down?

See my post here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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The ACARS system gave a method of sending performance data along with other communications. A specific system for sending engine data wasn't being created.

ipofaon
Let's say the four hours additional flight was true and that the plane actually flew another four hours undetected. Where would it be?

If it took the route through the Street of Malacca out in the Indian Ocean, the only place that came to my mind is Diego Garcia. (US military base and CIA black site to transit high value detainees):

Camp Justice (Diego Garcia)

Maybe someone hijacked the plane, flew it to Diego Garcia to get some high value prisoners out in exchange for the hostages on the plane.
It's possible the plane crashed on it's way,was shot down or maybe they landed and the hostage situation is still going on and is beeing kept secret.

lightedhype

Engine Data Suggest Malaysia Flight Was Airborne Long After Radar Disappearance, U.S. Investigators Say -WSJ


Aviation investigators and national security officials believe the plane flew for a total of five hours, based on data automatically downloaded and sent to the ground from the Boeing Co. BA -0.99% 777's engines as part of a routine maintenance and monitoring program.


U.S. counterterrorism officials are pursuing the possibility that a pilot or someone else on board the plane may have diverted it toward an undisclosed location after intentionally turning off the jetliner's transponders to avoid radar detection, according to one person tracking the probe.

I've said all along I think the pilot is responsible and he practiced this with his homemade flight simulator.

At one briefing, according to this person, officials were told investigators are actively pursuing the notion that the plane was diverted "with the intention of using it later for another purpose."

OMG!!!! I knew it, I just knew that's how this would end. Granted that is only one source and speculation at this point, but you know how this works folks at ATS (:

If the media is releasing this information slowly now, then the US government has known for a long time and knows a lot more about the situation and are slowly 'allowing' things to leak out. As I said, we may here be witnessing a very slow moving but extremely well crafted attack of some sort....on what or by whom...we will find out soon I am afraid.

Of course, not trying to spread doom porn. I could still be wrong and Im sure 24 hours from now those statements will be redacted by so and so considering "the plane being taken to an undisclosed location." As seems to be the case with this kind of info...

Also, go figure the United States government and her spy agencies know more than anybody else closer to the situation...well closer could be wrong

Anyways, if true this is terrible. Where are those poor passengers?

This one is going to break ATS....

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you were so right... they are now denying the report of the plane having flown hours after the last contact. WOW just WOW! This is a crazy story and keeps getting crazier with every passing report

DarksideOz
Just out of curiosity, has anyone actually heard any Official Department not contradicting themselves on this incident ?

Has any "terrorist" group claimed responsibility. I only ask because normally we are told that several groups claim responsibility of other events, almost as if it's a race to get in first, yet they all seem very quite on this issue ?

Personally, I believe this has a lot more to do with the 20 people on board that worked for the Defence company, and what they were working on, then it has to do with "terrorists", or a "playboy" pilot. This is just my opinion based on the information I have come across, but the turning point for me was that the Defence company that they worked for, deals with technology that can make planes seem to disappear, or 'cloaking'.
Again, just my opinion, but I have seen enough in my life to know that this is NOT a coincidence. This is the smoking gun, or the main starting point. If you see or hear a media outlet just talking about terrorism but not mentioning the employee/company connection, then they are lying and diverting your attention. How could any respectable media outlet present a story about this topic, but not mention this connection ?
Its ironic that the media has used this opportunity to have a dig at "conspiracy theorists" at every chance, yet they don't want to talk about the employee/company connection because it hits too close to home of the real conspiracy.

I read in another post, the Dr Brown Prediction thing, in someones post they linked to some bizarre but plausible (in an intergalactic minded way) plot that is unfolding that could handle this mystery and perhaps shed light on the mystery.
LINK

Anyways, to summarize:

Evil Aliens have taken Earth and created Badness on this planet and in this area of the galaxy.
Good Aliens have been fighting them for millennia.
It is coming to a front with the ongoing war.
A lot of Dark/Evil based human scientists and a lot of Good/Light based human scientists are being taken out around the world right now. As everyone is probably aware of. These are "accidents", hits, and "suicides".

Well 20 defense contractors that are working on a super top secret and potentially powerful device where just taken out... apparently...

Could this be another attack, another battle, another objective cleared in this ongoing intergalactic battle between Light and Darkness?

This could be the Official beginning of the Alien Invasion and the NWO of Human Earthlings?

Or not.
Or perhaps I should quit shopping for produce in Colorado.

Sorry Phage, I know I don't have enough links...

matadoor

kosmicjack
It seems to me that one would need a crew member's cooperation to successfully hijack a plane post 9/11..

Also, if it entered the airspace of another country without transponder data or communication, is it possible it was shot down?

See my post here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

if it flew south enough in the Indian ocean they wouldn't have to fly into anyone's airspace. They had a clear path to a country like Yemen or Somalia with no one seeing them, especially if they flew low enough and the pilot knew what he was doing. I suggested this in another thread.

Vasa Croe

Vasa Croe
I am going to roll with they landed it in the Maldives. Plenty of religious extremism there, airport could easily handle this plane, and if the right people were involved it would be the perfect place to refuel and prepare for something big. Conspiracy hat on. Would love to find out if the passport thieves are linked to any extremist groups. Fully fueled and without passengers I believe they could hit most major cities with this plane on the globe.

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Another interesting fact is that Iranians are not required to have a Visa to visit the Maldives for up to 30 days with no conditions of access...

Source

There are also PLENTY of connections between Iran and the Maldives.

While this is a crazy theory, I am still thinking it fits the scenario should this come down to a hijacking and storing the plane for later use.

I for one keep thinking this scenario but with Yemen for some reason, because I see a clear flight path that could be undetected but the Maldeves are half way there so your scenario makes sense as well. If this is true, what happens to the passengers? They're simply killed ? held in captivity ?

Cydonia2012

Vasa Croe

Vasa Croe
I am going to roll with they landed it in the Maldives. Plenty of religious extremism there, airport could easily handle this plane, and if the right people were involved it would be the perfect place to refuel and prepare for something big. Conspiracy hat on. Would love to find out if the passport thieves are linked to any extremist groups. Fully fueled and without passengers I believe they could hit most major cities with this plane on the globe.

edit on 3/11/14 by Vasa Croe because: (no reason given)

Another interesting fact is that Iranians are not required to have a Visa to visit the Maldives for up to 30 days with no conditions of access...

Source

There are also PLENTY of connections between Iran and the Maldives.

While this is a crazy theory, I am still thinking it fits the scenario should this come down to a hijacking and storing the plane for later use.

I for one keep thinking this scenario but with Yemen for some reason, because I see a clear flight path that could be undetected but the Maldeves are half way there so your scenario makes sense as well. If this is true, what happens to the passengers? They're simply killed ? held in captivity ?

My thought would be held until no longer useful. Always keep a "bargaining chip" in the pocket. With the passengers listed on the plane they have multiple countries they can bargain with if needed. If this is the plan and all goes as planned then they simply kill the passengers once the plan is executed.

Missing MH370: Senior Pentagon official says will take another 24 hours to move USS Kidd into SAR position

Of the entire U.S. military, surely they sent more than one ship? There were three US nationals on board, two of them children...

Investigators also said today that U.S. officials gave them reasons to keep searching the waters west of Malaysia, far from the flight path of the Malaysia Airlines plane.

So the invisible presence of the U.S. detected something but the visible presence is one ship. Yay

Source: www.thestar.com.my...

markymint

Missing MH370: Senior Pentagon official says will take another 24 hours to move USS Kidd into SAR position

Of the entirety of the US military....... they have sent one ship.. Thanks US gov, on an international humanitarian scale, thanks.

Truly world police... of their own agendas.

Investigators also said today that U.S. officials gave them reasons to keep searching the waters west of Malaysia, far from the flight path of the Malaysia Airlines plane.

Oh, so the invisible presence of the U.S. detected something but the visible presence is one ship. Yay

Source: www.thestar.com.my...

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where do you see that the US only has 1 ship there? From CNN reports and other various ones there seem to be multiple ships and aircrafts there in the area helping in the search.

All I know is, that whilst the world's attention was drawn into this, the State Government of Victoria in Australia decided it was time to pass a law at 1am a few days ago to pretty much say protesting is illegal.

counteract.org.au...



Anything going on in your neck of the woods with this tragic and sad distraction ?



Sorry to hijack thread with that, long long long time reader, new account.

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Okay thanks, I haven't seen any myself, not footage, nor photos, just a photo of a sea-king I think and news of a USS ship. But I'm not following the TV reports, mostly just the written ones.

Obama made peace and pledged alliegance with the new Ukranian prime minister yesterday was it? Or the day before, and mentioned they would certainly act on Russia if necessary. So that was nicely slipped under the radar. Basically said they'll go to war with Russia if necessary. Or did I interpret that incorrectly too?

You know....another thought I just had is if the intention was to hijack this plane and take it to another location for other nefarious purposes...I keep hearing that the passengers would have tried to do something and whatnot, which I completely agree with. How do you keep passengers under control in a hijacking after 911.....you depressurize the cabin and kill them all where they sit while you are prepared with oxygen already.

This could account for the phones continuing to ring and passengers not getting involved. Kill them all prior to getting to where you are going in a pretty violent free manner, land the plane, dump the bodies, load plane with whatever and start second part of mission.

I am no pilot, but is it possible to depressurize a plane in flight and kill the passengers while being prepared for it yourself, assuming you are either the pilot or have gained control of the cockpit and have oxygen and whatnot at the ready?

markymint
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Okay thanks, I haven't seen any myself, not footage, nor photos, just a photo of a sea-king I think and news of a USS ship. But I'm not following the TV reports, mostly just the written ones.

Obama made peace and pledged alliegance with the new Ukranian prime minister yesterday was it? Or the day before, and mentioned they would certainly act on Russia if necessary. So that was nicely slipped under the radar. Basically said they'll go to war with Russia if necessary. Or did I interpret that incorrectly too?

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wow really? Didn't see this..... see? we have to be vigilent, this missing plane could be used as a distraction for something else.