Why are the cellphones of missing Malaysian Airlines passengers still ringing?

Drezden

The 'unprecedented mystery' behind the disappearance of Malaysian Airlines flight MH 370 deepened on Monday when relatives claimed they were able to call the cellphones of their missing loved ones.

According to the Washington Post, family of some of the 239 people on board the vanished Boeing 777 said that they were getting ring tones and could see them as online through a Chinese social networking service called QQ.

One man said that the QQ account of his brother-in-law showed him as active, but frustratingly for those waiting desperately for any news, messages sent have gone unanswered and the calls have not been picked up.


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Why are the cellphones of missing Malaysian Airlines passengers still ringing?

edit on 3/11/2014 by Drezden because: (no reason given)

If you call a turned off cell phone, you will still hear the ring tone (until the messaging service picks up). Sometimes the answering service is overloaded or confused and you'll get same amount of rings before the system picks up, making one to think the phone is powered on.

Use your cell phone and login to Facebook. Do not log out, but shut you phone down. Others on Facebook will still see that you are online. Heck, they could even start a chat with you. But of course, you are not receiving the messages.

reply to post by Bassago


Exactly. No big deal, the phones can be EASILY positioned within a few meters using GPS. Right? Right?! Oh, in this particular circumstance they can't? LOL something is definitely up, and China knows exactly what it is I bet.

Edit: All these people rambling on about 'where's the tower' and 'it's the same on facebook' and blah blah blah are either missing the point by accident or on purpose. G P S

Justaposter
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All I know is, this whole situation is very, very bizarre. The lack of distress calls, the lack of debris...

No matter how much logic one uses, there really is quite a lot of room for 'conspiracy theories'.

Well we better hope they find it before the "Got abducted by the mothership" folks start up. Maybe they already have out there somewhere.

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Hmmm, first your post is quite off topic and inflammatory. Second, are you always looking for hostility or maybe just an argument with members with certain beliefs? And finally, I assume you can prove no 'mothership' was involved? Stay classy.

I haven't read all 3 pages of comments.

This may sound weird but it is true

About 8 years ago when I lived on White Sands Missile Range, a military testing facility with a no fly zone overhead:
I saw an airplane fly over us (weird) because it was a strict no fly zone.

The sky was clear, no clouds, then suddenly, the plane was gone, poof, disappeared.
When I mentioned it to a scientist on base he said, oh we've been able to do that for years.

So the technology to make a plane disappear off radar is there, and to cloak it is there.
I am beginning to think it was hijacked with some very high technology.

The scientists on board, there were electric car specialists and any other scientists - or whoever they were after - may be forced to work somewhere, the other's who knows. probably killed.

Ringing on one end does not necessarily mean ringing on the other. If I unplug my land line someone calling me will hear the phone ringing on their end but it won't be ringing on mine. Plus these things go to voice mail which is stored with the carrier. They are not ringing at the other end. I promise you that.

Hellas
Assuming the plane just crashed and wasn't being hijacked, I don't see why the cellphones would be even switched ON since they have to be switched OFF during flight.

Something's fishy..

Its hard to imagine, but not impossible I suppose, that a phone could even stay operational after the sort of impact trauma the device would have received when the plane struck the ocean at hundreds of miles and hour.

JohnTheSmith
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Hmmm, first your post is quite off topic and inflammatory. Second, are you always looking for hostility or maybe just an argument with members with certain beliefs? And finally, I assume you can prove no 'mothership' was involved? Stay classy.

No friend that was legitimist concern. You are probably one of those waiting for the right time or right person to bring it up.

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Continue with the Ad Hominem if you'd like. And calling me your friend before you insult me and my intelligence doesn't hide the fact. You brought up the subject. And it was off-topic nonsense. Get over yourself.

Imagine what havok an organization could wreak with a 777... the possibilities are endless. But, this thing is (IMO) most likely in pieces 100 miles off the shore.

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Dude in all seriousness your nerve is sticking out. Didn't mean to hit it. Take it easy.

reply to post by Logarock


Nope I'm not mad, I'm just dead serious. You've played unfairly and I've called you out. This little conversation of ours is unnecessary and is a de-railment to this thread. Off topic posts are not allowed and I'm pretty sure you know that, seeing as you're a long standing member.

Hijacking is NOT ruled out according to EuroNews.com. 34 aircraft and 40 ships from numerous countries looking for this thing, as well as that chinese satellite. How long til we just stop hearing about this and it slowly faaaaddesss away.

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Naturally hijacking hasn't been ruled out. My post really wasn't off topic all. This is ATS.....remember. Time warps, mother ships, ect. Granted its highly unlikely to have been the result of contact with a UFO or a time warp but those postulations are fair game here at this point and will be worse if they never find the plane.

My wife's Cellphone will Ring 3 times before it goes to voicemail when it's off or it's out of area (we often visit family in an area with little to no coverage). Verizon iPhone.

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Thank you for meeting me halfway like a gentleman. Have a star for debating me as well.
Then there is this: www.euronews.com...

Flight MH370: possible mid-air disintegration, unconfirmed object ‘spotted’ in sea.
Pure speculation at this point.

My apologies if that link does not work I'm in a hurry and I'm obviously new to ATS.

When I was reading a book on CIA training post 9/11 (The first class after, in fact) they went into a little detail about the lengths the CIA trainees are required to go through, and recall, this was over 10 years ago. Upon approaching "The Farm" training facility in Virginia and while still a LONG distance away from it, they are required to turn off their phones AND remove the batteries from them completely. The reason being, Off is never Off on a modern cell phone. Not "really". A total LACK of power is the only sure 'Off' state.

So...here is my problem with all this... The NSA and it's minions have the power, we're told, to activate cell phone microphones *AND* cameras from remote. All they need is the number, carrier and make/model of the target phone (and maybe not that much in some cases). At least....that's what we've been told in an effort to have us scared of our own shadows to say Boo with.

Why is it....when these Super-Capabilities would really MATTER and save lives rather than just end them with targeted killing...no one seems able to use any of these examples of Wonder-Ware that is supposed to hack through anything around us, to hear them speak of it all.

Why are we wondering about ringing phones when a live link to the phone SHOULD be possible if even half the crap we've been fed over the last year has ANY truth to it?

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Haven't kept up with the story or read through all the pages, but if the phones appear to ring and active surely the chances of someone having an IPHONE are pretty good. Hence, at minimum they could get access to their icloud account and use find my iphone without even having to depend on cell phone triangulation.

If we only had a global spy network and the gov't had full access to our cell phones this wouldn't be such and issue to find them? Even if they had active phones most likely they wouldn't access them anyways to get audio of even video because it would violate our privacy.

When are you people going to realize that we need more gov't surveillance and technology to prevent things like this and to make it easier to find the bad guys. Had we had this technology available we surely would have hacked the bad guys and found them by now. Instead the crazy conspiracy theorist think the gov't would be wasting their time monitoring little johnnies illegal Justin Bieber downloads.

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If only someone had an illegal copy of miley cyrus on the plane surely they would have been found.

Best regards to the effected families.

Vaedur
My wife's Cellphone will Ring 3 times before it goes to voicemail when it's off or it's out of area (we often visit family in an area with little to no coverage). Verizon iPhone.

Yea see we are not getting enough information. Its almost as if those that report the news are making it mysterious for effect when they could simply do a bit more of the required inquiry. We even have to ask as we have been....do cell phones ringing really mean anything at all at this point? Without more info and specific inquiry we must say no at this point.

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The super spooks may not want to tip thier hand here yet. Maybe they need time to figure a cover story. They wouldn't want the bad guys or the public knowing the full extent of their tracking capacity.

Justaposter
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No matter how much logic one uses, there really is quite a lot of room for 'conspiracy theories'.

Yeppers, If this is tied back to Iran I wonder how willing China will be to continue buying their Oil.

Eye on Iran: Congress Concerned Iran's Oil Exports May Be Up
www.unitedagainstnucleariran.com...

AP: "Obama administration officials faced the prospect of contentious questioning Thursday from lawmakers about reports that China and India are significantly expanding imports of Iranian petroleum... Chinese imports of Iranian crude have jumped nearly 30 percent since November compared with the previous six months, according to government data.

I read the actual article, and there are two things very unsettling about the status of the cell phones, per the family members of those who are missing.

1) the cell phones ring and DON'T go straight to voice mail. That is, according to the family members, unusual according to normal behavior of the phones when "off" or "out of range".

2) the cell phones are logged in to a mobile instant messaging app, which indicates to the family members that the missing person's phone is within some sort of data connection, either cellular data or wifi.

These two pieces of information, not so much #1 but definitely #2, indicate that there is a very strong chance that some or all of these people are or were on land or somehow in a situation where their phones would be able to connect to a DATA service of some sort.

If they are "vaporized" or crashed or floating on a debris field or on the bottom of the ocean that would not be the case.

My guess is that the plane was hijacked, all transponders were turned off, the plane went to a very low altitude, changed course, and landed somewhere. The passenger's belongings if not the passengers themselves were put indoors in some room somewhere and were within range of either cellular data or wifi. Until the batteries died.

Definitely not a good situation for the people but at least it gives the family members some hope that they weren't killed in a fiery crash.

The obvious answer is for our NSA overseers to dig through their dragnet logs of the entire internet and find out where THOSE phones were on the dates in question.

I agree, big brother could do some actual good here. Instead of eavesdropping on grandma's chicken soup recipe she texts to her daughter or watching Jimmy Joe Billy Bob browse for cow milking equipment.