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A farewell to religion.

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posted on Mar, 12 2014 @ 10:22 AM
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graphuto
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Just because some people twisted the words to commit atrocities doesn't mean that you can discount the Book. ANYONE who has actually read it can look at it and see that what the Roman Catholics did in the Dark Ages isn't in line with what's written.

Period.


No you can dismiss the book just because it make outrageous claims about reality that cannot be substantiated...(triple period)




posted on Mar, 12 2014 @ 10:27 AM
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Would you consider suspending your unbelief for just a moment to consider the POSSIBILITY that the God of the Bible is real, and that the Bible is God's inspired Word?

What defense could you possibly have for yourself at judgement when the judge is the all seeing, and all knowing creator of the entire universe and sees that you've repeatedly denied and blasphemed His name and Word, when all he wanted was for you to believe in/on Him?

Honestly, if you've read the Book, I don't see how on earth you came to that conclusion..
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posted on Mar, 12 2014 @ 10:31 AM
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graphuto
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Let's suspend your unbelief for just a moment to consider the POSSIBILITY that the God of the Bible is real, and that the Bible is God's inspired Word.

What defense could you possibly have for yourself at judgement when the judge is the all seeing, and all knowing creator of the entire universe and sees that you've repeatedly denied and blasphemed His name and Word?


Ahh the last resort of the christian, the threat....

In that hypothetical, the god would see that ive looked into the claims made for its existence and found there was insufficient evidence.

And if it had a problem with that, i'd tell it to go *** itself.




posted on Mar, 12 2014 @ 10:31 AM
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Well it has controlled millions, The Bible tells you to give money to priests or else (2nd book) has kept women in bondage for years, tells you If you don't accept Christianity you burn in hell even If you are Ghandi or a good person.
Tells us it is ok to have slaves.
Why do you think congregations are called flocks?
Why do you have to call God Lord?
So you blindly accept those who call themselves Lord, the ruling class.
Sure the Bible has some good moral stories in but they are not original most of the Bible are tales from older times before it...copies of other religions that are now dead.
Religion has made the biggest divisions in humanity and until religion is gone we will never reach for the stars or be at peace with each other.
People take the Bible and other dusty books as gospel truth when they are not.
No noahs ark.
No global flood.
No Abraham.

And to be honest I do think Jesus is a lie also, the Vatican is just the Roman empire refurnished.

Like I said I think it is spiritually lazy to just fall/be brainwashed into any religion when it is not from God but man.
The most scary thing is in the biggest strongest country in the world If you don't believe you can not get into government even when the founding fathers said keep religion out of government.
The most scary thing is the end of days BS we see in it, people with nuclear weapons who believe in the end of days may just push the button to justify their own religion.



posted on Mar, 12 2014 @ 10:33 AM
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You'd really do that, if the stakes really were what the Bible says they are? You're quite brave, and even more prideful. Kudos to you!



posted on Mar, 12 2014 @ 10:34 AM
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graphuto
Honestly, if you've read the Book, I don't see how on earth you came to that conclusion..


We're talking about the book that features a god that's also its own son who sacrificed itself to itself to create a loophole for a law it made? the book with talking serpents, worldwide floods, people walking on water and zombies rising from the dead?...right?



posted on Mar, 12 2014 @ 10:34 AM
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That is between me and God and I will have a chat with her when I die.
I think she will be very pleased I have used my own mind and heart to get closer to her.
Sorry but your God has human traits I know God does not care for Jealously for one.



posted on Mar, 12 2014 @ 10:35 AM
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boymonkey74

Religion has made the biggest divisions in humanity and until religion is gone we will never reach for the stars or be at peace with each other.



Actually, if we just followed what the dang Book said, we'd have NO strife. We'd CONSTANTLY be at peace.



posted on Mar, 12 2014 @ 10:36 AM
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Yes, that's the one! The one that describes human nature and God's nature to it's fullest, and even warns of folks like you!



posted on Mar, 12 2014 @ 10:37 AM
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You'd really do that, if the stakes really were what the Bible says they are? You're quite brave, and even more prideful. Kudos to you!



Of course I would! who in their right mind would want to spend eternity with a spiteful and viscous creature like that??



posted on Mar, 12 2014 @ 10:37 AM
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boymonkey74

Sorry but your God has human traits I know God does not care for Jealously for one.


Really? The Bible says that God is a jealous God...

Also, righteous jealousy isn't a bad or sinful thing...



posted on Mar, 12 2014 @ 10:37 AM
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boymonkey74

Religion has made the biggest divisions in humanity and until religion is gone we will never reach for the stars or be at peace with each other.



Actually, if we just followed what the dang Book said, we'd have NO strife. We'd CONSTANTLY be at peace.


We humans have a talent for weaponizing stuff.



posted on Mar, 12 2014 @ 10:38 AM
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Which book? the Bible? the Torah? the Koran?
Oh I get it just your religion for all eh?
Sod the ones which came before and are actually better for humanity... Buddhism for one.
How are you going to get everyone to follow your Book? violence that's how, look back at history and you know Iam right.



posted on Mar, 12 2014 @ 10:38 AM
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Sorry he is a hypocrite then why have a commandment which he will not even follow?.
In fact how many commandments has your version of God broken?.
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posted on Mar, 12 2014 @ 10:40 AM
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Prezbo369

Of course I would! who in their right mind would want to spend eternity with a spiteful and viscous creature like that??


Those who take Him at His Word and believe what He says. In the grand (universal) scheme of things, our 60-90 years on this earth are meaningless.

Eternity is just that. Eternity.



posted on Mar, 12 2014 @ 10:41 AM
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Does the potter not have power/dominion over the clay to do with as He pleases?

You can't put human morals on an infinite God.

Which commandment are you referring to, specifically?
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posted on Mar, 12 2014 @ 10:41 AM
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I would rather be nothing at all then live the rest of eternity as a slave.
Your God is worse than the premise of 1984 he will dam you for ever for thought crime.
Anyhow leaving this thread Iam more interested in another at the mo.
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posted on Mar, 12 2014 @ 10:43 AM
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If the Bible is right, you won't be "nothing at all."

You'll be in torment for ETERNITY.

The Bible doesn't say we'll be slaves in Heaven. It say's we'll be rulers and judges.
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posted on Mar, 12 2014 @ 10:44 AM
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Lol thats right use the threats...not your job is it? and to do so you will burn in hell.
lol.
Sorry you have just condemned yourself to the pit.

But there is no Hell it is the spiritual naughty step used by the Priests to make you live the way they want you to live.
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posted on Mar, 12 2014 @ 10:46 AM
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I'm not the one threatening. I'm simply explaining what the Bible teaches.

The beginning of wisdom is a healthy and respectful fear of God, the creator of the universe.
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