Georgia Becomes First State in History to Pass the Convention of States Application

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posted on Mar, 10 2014 @ 07:49 PM
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I no sure about outgoing good either, but remember that imports now are mostly coming from US companies base oversea, most policies in the US are to benefit US companies so tariffs will eat on their profits.

I need to research on that subject more.




posted on Mar, 10 2014 @ 07:52 PM
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marg6043
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I believe it changed when most manufacturing left the state, in the last 15 years, now they are working on legislation to legalize medicinal marijuana to bring more income, If this is approved I imagine that it will open the door for more.

www.wsbtv.com...



I guess I haven't been here long enough to know what manufacturing was here and when it left, but that's something good to look into.

Seriously though, I do remember being impressed by how self-sufficient, clean, and new the state was compared to dirty ole NY (which i LOVE don't get me wrong!) And then the hard times hit I guess...as they did everywhere.



posted on Mar, 10 2014 @ 07:53 PM
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Hotlanta.


5.5 of the 9.9 million Georgians live in the Atlanta Metropolitan Area.

Sadly, the General Assembly districts are almost as gerrymandered as the Congressional Districts are.



posted on Mar, 10 2014 @ 07:55 PM
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If the rest of the state looks like my neck of the woods when we lost many major manufactures, like merck, Bob candy, uniforms, Cooper tires and half of Proctor and Gamble, we are now a sorry state indeed.

But is ok, we got two big Wal-Mart's since then in the same town.

The irony.



posted on Mar, 10 2014 @ 07:57 PM
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Atlanta is becoming the next capital for movie marking in the east coast, I know a lot of young people in my neck of the woods that goes up north to work as extras, to make some money.



posted on Mar, 10 2014 @ 07:58 PM
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Here is a good example 1921.

Tariffs on goods coming from overseas (even from US based companies) "should" encourage those companies to manufacture the goods here in the US instead of other countries.

Tariffs were high in the US when we were isolationists.



posted on Mar, 10 2014 @ 07:58 PM
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Ugh. I'm so very sorry.

There are 6 within a 10 mile radius here. Makes me throw up a little in my mouth.

Things seems to be picking up in the housing market though...lots of new construction and homes are selling again after six years of virtually no sales. We were in the top three worst housing markets in the country if I recall....



posted on Mar, 10 2014 @ 08:00 PM
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Sadly here in my neck of the woods the housing is still slow even with prices falling, but I imagine that Atlanta been a big city have better luck with jobs and housing development.



posted on Mar, 10 2014 @ 08:08 PM
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Georgia took a beating in the last 6 years, for certain. Atlanta has recovered decently economically. (I live here.)

The rest of the State, especially the western (I work there) and southern quarters have really have taken a beating.

Manufacturing left 15-20 years ago. Housing boom died six years ago. Foreclosure rates were awful.

Educational quality, about 45th in the nation, says a lot ... only about 70% graduate from high school.

The General Assembly though (legislature) is its own special creature.

They're about to vote to permit state-wide directed prayer and religious discussion (guess which one) in schools again.

AND, of course, they've got that handy-dandy religious "freedom to discriminate" law up and ready to go.

And unlike Arizona ... these ol' boys will probably pass it.



posted on Mar, 10 2014 @ 08:14 PM
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I don't get out of town much, and when I do it's out of state...hadn't realized that the rest of the state endured such losses, and what I did and still do see of it 20-30 years ago to the south and west seems pretty rural and the same to me. Sad really.

I really hope they don't pass the freedom-to-discriminate.

Or the prayer.

Why people have such a hard time separating the secular from the religious and want to force their will on others is just beyond my ability to grasp.



posted on Mar, 10 2014 @ 08:31 PM
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I've lived here and worked here for almost 50 years now.

Many of them are good people at heart, but their xenophobia runs strong and deep.

Atlanta's a different animal yet again. Seemingly modern in so many ways, and yet ... there's that Gold Dome in the middle of it.

I have great hopes for Michelle Nunn's US Senate campaign.

But what I'd really love to see are some fiscally-conservative socially liberal, reasonable intelligent people step up to the plate, whatever their party affiliation.

Let's leave the Secession in the 1860s, and the unfair discrimination in the 1960s, and get down to business again.



posted on Mar, 10 2014 @ 08:53 PM
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TownCryer
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Federal laws trump state laws. This is likely just a puplicity stunt for GOPers to raise more donations. Money grab - won't change anything. The harder these states that don't like Obama try to squeeze out the Federal government, the faster they bring about the very changes they're trying to avoid.


Actually, 2/3 of the states can make constitutional changes that if ratified by 3/4 of the states, ARE Federal law.
The states created the federal government and they can recreate it if that becomes necessary.
Nothing in the federal government can legally "trump" that.



posted on Mar, 10 2014 @ 10:00 PM
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buster2010
Georgia reminds me of the girl suing her parents for college funds and living expenses. We want to do as we please but keep paying our bills for us. If Georgia really wanted to lead other states then make an example and pay your own way instead of begging the government for so much aid. They are part of the reason why we have so much debt because the government has to take care of their people instead of Georgia taking care of them themselves. So until they so this anything they pass against the governments spending is just a joke.


The situation you describe is easily the situation the federal govt likes. Dependent states, dependent populace...less likely to revolt, no?

Does not prevent a revolt though, just less likely.



posted on Mar, 10 2014 @ 10:06 PM
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bbracken677

buster2010
Georgia reminds me of the girl suing her parents for college funds and living expenses. We want to do as we please but keep paying our bills for us. If Georgia really wanted to lead other states then make an example and pay your own way instead of begging the government for so much aid. They are part of the reason why we have so much debt because the government has to take care of their people instead of Georgia taking care of them themselves. So until they so this anything they pass against the governments spending is just a joke.


The situation you describe is easily the situation the federal govt likes. Dependent states, dependent populace...less likely to revolt, no?

Does not prevent a revolt though, just less likely.



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posted on Mar, 10 2014 @ 11:56 PM
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There has always been a basic question in this country, a question which few if any nations have ever had to ask themselves.

Do we stand Together, as a strong Nation, or separately, as a group of small satrapies.

I have listened to the endless whining of a relatively small portion of the right political wing about "smaller government."

What do you think your day-to-day life would be like if you didn't live in the USA, as it exists and has existed?

Do you think you would have the standard of life you've known? Or anything near it? Could you have built whatever wealth you have, the business you owned, the trade you plied ... without the UNITED States of America? Do you think Georgia or Ohio or say Delaware would command any status on the world stage?

Have you ever considered the incredible ease you have to get in your car and drive for several thousand miles in any direction, if it suits you, with no border checks, tolls, tariffs, etc.? To have decent and safe roads to drive on that are built to basically the same standards? To know that the fuel you purchase along the way is of a uniform quality?

Some of you buy into this "smaller government" sloganeering so completely, and yet, you don't even think for a moment what it would be like to live in a world without the unified force that is the US. Do you think that Tennessee or Oregon would have been able to stand up to Hitler or Stalin or Mao?

You speak of "the federal government" as if it is an independent malevolent entity that moves and thinks and acts uniformly. It is not. It is composed of individual people, people who, if they were not engaged in government at the federal level, would be at the State and local levels. The same power-hungry and controlling psychologies ... but wait ... with no centralized authority to prevent them from or punish them for doing whatever they wished, whenever they wished, to you.

Look at the abuses of State and local officials. It's so common it's a well-worn movie trope ... the crooked sheriff, the corrupt Governor.

Any of you that think you're going to be "freer" under an imagined libertarian wonderland are simply delusional, in my opinion.

And these idiots in Georgia are some of the biggest hypocrites of all. I happen to know a few of them personally.

You know how they made their money? These "makers" ... these captains of capitalism?

Federal contracts.

Pfft.
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posted on Mar, 11 2014 @ 12:02 AM
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It's funny looking at all the people who applaud this move without truly understanding the repercussions a constitutional convention would usher in. Be careful what you wish for, the grass is always greener on the other side. The moment we have a convention is the moment our society will collapse and not for the better.



posted on Mar, 11 2014 @ 12:06 AM
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bbracken677

The situation you describe is easily the situation the federal govt likes. Dependent states, dependent populace...less likely to revolt, no?

Does not prevent a revolt though, just less likely.


Living conditions are no where near bad enough for the greater part of society to consider "revolt", federal subsidies or not.



posted on Mar, 11 2014 @ 06:10 AM
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buster2010

marg6043
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I tell you what, we could do better if all the manufacturing jobs were still here, but since I became a resident of the state of GA, back in 96 in my small town alone we have lost 8 big manufacturing businesses, to name a few or the big names, Merck, Cooper tires, Bob candy, one side of Proctor and Gamble, uniforms, ect.

Now you tell me what we have done wrong that these businesses feel that moving to Mexico and China is better than keeping jobs in the state, and this is just in my small town, the town went from manufactures to welfare recipients.

Do not blame the states, most welfare states now are the product of bad businesses in Washington policies that benefits the pockets of politicians while screwing the working class in the states.

When Washington benefactors benefits from tax payer dollars the states suffer.



Did the government move these jobs overseas? No they didn't blame the people that own the companies for doing that. You can't say taxes were the cause because taxes are lower now than ever so it was nothing more than greed that caused these companies to move.


The government did do this. It started with Bush senior's "Thousand Points of Light" speech and ended with NAFTA.
The Free Trade Act killed manufacturing in this country.



posted on Mar, 11 2014 @ 08:12 AM
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We are a very young country compared to all the rest. Something to keep in mind, perhaps Georgia on its own would not make a big grand stand in the world, but if it buddied up with South Carolina, Florida and Alabama, it would be the size of Germany.


Stop selling us short. People are powerful. It only took a 5th of Georgia's population to start this country.

Chaos happens when one unruly government tries to control such a large population of passionately opinionated people.



posted on Mar, 11 2014 @ 08:19 AM
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Gryphon66

Some of you buy into this "smaller government" sloganeering so completely, and yet, you don't even think for a moment what it would be like to live in a world without the unified force that is the US. Do you think that Tennessee or Oregon would have been able to stand up to Hitler or Stalin or Mao?

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It would be like the people of Iraq who couldn't stand up to a Bush or 2.





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