posted on Mar, 10 2014 @ 01:15 PM
reply to post by ~Lucidity
Your analogy to Ukraine is a fail. Even as part of the USSR, Ukraine was a republic unto itself. And it was a country before the USSR formed too.
The Ukraine had never been what we currently term an independent nation state until the break up of the USSR in 1991.
Previously it was a hotly contested and fragmented region which was controlled at various times by various combinations of Russia, Poland,
Austria-Hungary, Lithuania and I think if memory serves me right the Ottoman Turks.
Whilst being an original member of the USSR it was heavily dictated to by Moscow and the Russian Soviet Republic.
But that wasn't really the point I was trying to make.
My point was that Western Europe, including many former USSR controlled Republics, are increasingly moving towards political union.
A result of that union will be that policies and legislation will increasingly be dictated from the central EU governing body and not the independent
It seems that many believe that the US central, Federal governing body is increasingly exerting its power and influence over the constituent States
that comprise the USA. Many also believe that this contravenes many parts of the US Constitution and Bill Of Rights and is in direct opposition to the
intended spirit and ethos that under pins the US.
I wouldn't dream of attempting to give any serious or qualified opinion on the validity of these arguments and viewpoints.
However, viewed from the outside looking in it seems that there is an increasing movement within the US as a whole towards fragmentation in an effort
to desist the powers of the Federal government. This at a time when increasing pressure is being put on us here in Europe to move towards allowing
more and more power being given to a centralised government - although no-one openly admits it there seems to be a deep desire in some quarters to
forge some kind of Union Of European States.
I think in this instance we in Europe could learn a lot from what is going on in the USA at present.
Either way, whichever way the US decides to go it will have ramifications across the rest of the world.
I for one wish you luck.