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What radar do you refer to over the sea?
While rocks raining from space are scary and there is no way to completely eliminate their threat, they are also thankfully sporadic. Your odds of getting killed by a meteorite are roughly 1 in 250,000. You are far more likely to die in an earthquake, tornado, flood, airplane crash, or car crash (but less likely to be killed by lightning). Most asteroids burn up in the atmosphere long before they hit the ground and the few that do will probably hit open ocean or a remote part of the Earth rather than your head.
Aloysius the Gaul
doesn't look like it slowed down at all - the speeds are all 471-474 knots.
And 15 degrees is not a big course change. Airliners routinely do 180 degrees in a minute - that is a "rate 1 turn" - at high speed they would do a rate 2 turn - 90 degrees in 1 minute.
The recorded headings are 25 degrees at 17:19:28, 28 degrees at 17:20:18 and 40 degrees at 17:20:35 - from 20 to 35 degrees is a 15 degree shift in 1 minute and 7 seconds - it would barely be noticeable.
reply to post by NullVoid
that is a quik deek for a big plane..whats the typical turn rate i wonder
...Changing course by 15 degrees to right side at 470+ speed, will bring you way way off course.
If you can maintain 25degrees, why need to change at all ? If theres a need, course change would be perform gradually over time, an speed probably slowed down so it will not encounter the obstacle fast.
The odd thing? I live within a mile and a half of the downtown of a metropolitan city with 1 mil+ population and have never seen a shooting star unless I venture 30 minutes into the country. I'm not an astronomer by any means but I'm an avid stargazer and there's definitely something very strange going on in the skies.
I was thinking this as well there sure have been a slew of them lately. Here is some info I have been putting together
Flight MH370 which departed Kuala Lumpur at 12.41 am earlier this morning(March 8, 2014) bound for Beijing.
This neo made its closest pass to earth as below
2014 EB4 2014-Mar-07 17:19 < 00:01 Earth 0.0214888558079387
Now if we covert UTC to MYT:
Friday, March 7, 2014 at 5:20:00 PM UTC
Kuala Lumpur (Malaysia)
Saturday, March 8, 2014 at 1:20:00 AM MYT
Now what if this object had others with it and was not necessarily the one 2014 EB4 (we were blindsided with the Russian meteor)? The time fits with the flight disappearance. Where would the flight have been 39 minutes into its flight? Did they say contact was lost one to two hours into the flight? Is this where the flight was seen to change direction? Did the flight take evasive maneuvers to avoid collision such as a 60% bank and stall? I know others have suggested this possibility as well.
Cases have been reported where airline pilots have veered their planes off course to avoid a mid-air collision with a fireball, only to find, from research later, that the fireball was 80 to 150 kilometres away and perhaps 30 kilometres higher than the aircraft. A typical fireball first appears at a height of about 130 kilometres above Earth, and usually extinguishes at a height of about 20 kilometres.
It last had contact with air traffic controllers 120 nautical miles off the east coast of the Malaysian town of Kota Bharu. Flight tracking website flightaware.com showed it flew northeast after takeoff, climbed to 35,000 ft and was still climbing when it vanished from tracking records.
There were no reports of bad weather.
"What we have done is actually look into the recording on the radar that we have and we realized there is a possibility the aircraft did make a turnback," Rodzali Daud, the Royal Malaysian Air Force chief, told reporters at a news conference.
Here goes: at any given time, airliners cover 2 billionths of the Earth's surface. There are 125 meteors an hour, each with probability 2x10-9 of striking some airplane. In 20 years, that's about 22 million independent possible impact events. The chance that every one of those meteors misses every airplane is:
In other words, there's about a 4.3% chance of a meteor strike on at least one airliner in the next 20 years. (John Conway used a different calculation but came to a similar result.) That's surprisingly large. To repeat: this is almost certainly an over-estimate, and applies not to a single flight but cumulatively to all flights over a 20-year period. Furthermore, there have been no documented cases of a meteor striking an aircraft so far, so even if it did occur we have no idea what kind of damage it would cause, or even if it would lead to a crash. But it's significant enough that it can't be ruled out next time there's an unexplained air crash incident.
A few things I would like to point out. Often times a meteor sighting or to be more precise a bolide sighting is sometimes precluded by unusually intense rain and or hail. This is caused in part by the ice melting off the meteor and coming down as precipitation. This could have been a massive storm caused caused by multiple objects. I believe that the flash of light seen by the pilots on the Air Comet flight (how ironic is it that the name of the airline is Air Comet?) could have been another meteor descending in the area and not necessarily the one that brought Air France down. The other thing that everyone seems to have overlooked when calculating the odds is the fact that the bolide does not have to actually strike the airplane in order to bring it down, it just has to get close enough so that the electromagnetic disturbance caused by it will affect its’ electronic instruments. It seems that the Aerbus is more susceptible to this than older planes. I am looking into reports of meteor sightings coinciding with the same model plane loosing several hundred feet of altitude over Australia in October of 2008. Coincidentally the first ever asteroid tracked from space that had pieces of it recovered on the ground occurred on the same week. Qantas Flight 72 had problems two months later over Australia and that coincided with an uptick in meteoric activity as well. That’s my two cents.
Below is from a blog in the area and has some info that may or may not be correct, just putting it out for discussion.
MH370 missing updates. plane crashed at vietnam, all ppl in the plane died. CNN reported. plane was confirmed crashed at 100km north of Ho Chi Minh city
due to rain storms at ho chi minh. the local ppl thought was meteor crashing. due to locally still raining and hill place, rescue activities facing problem now
and from page 4 of the above link
i read around from the sources inside the country found out that workers from talisman malaysian united oil and gas company stated that the crash happened near their oil plantation on malaysia-vietnam sea border
they joined the rescue team but they said they can't do nothing because the plane was crushed into pieces before plunging deep into the sea. they described it as '______' it's likely the plane exploded on air or there's complete power failure before the fall into the sea. that's why the plane went off radar all of sudden
Wait, so its like it was crushed even before it entered the sea? ...
u know what i'm working with petronas (malaysian oil and gas company). this morning i talked with my superior about this and she said,her friend who's working offshore with talisman (on malaysia-vietnam border) saw the plane crashed. tried to help, but...
and i know this is so hard to believe, but man i don't think she will lie to me though
and another from page 4
Posted 08 March 2014 - 01:33 AM
Apparently the Plane crashed 40 minutes into the flight, so the fact that they reported this news so late is pretty sad...
hmmm 40 minutes into the flight, I asked above with relation to NEO 2014 EB4 where they were approx 39 min into the flight? I know the NEO was not that close to the earth, but the timing sure fits, were there others?