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MagnumOpus
mrthumpy
reply to post by MagnumOpus
The latest soundings from Cancun show a temperature of 29.4C at 30ft and -40.5C at 36000ft
I know, that is technical, and such leaves you behind.edit on 11-3-2014 by mrthumpy because: (no reason given)
I guess you never flew through a cloud at 36,000 ft. ? or noticed lots more atmospheric turbulence in summer vs winter to modify clouds altitudes, storm energy, etc.
MagnumOpus
I guess you never flew through a cloud at 36,000 ft. ? or noticed lots more atmospheric turbulence in summer vs winter to modify clouds altitudes, storm energy, etc.
MagnumOpus
mrthumpy
reply to post by MagnumOpus
The latest soundings from Cancun show a temperature of 29.4C at 30ft and -40.5C at 36000ft
I know, that is technical, and such leaves you behind.edit on 11-3-2014 by mrthumpy because: (no reason given)
I guess you never flew through a cloud at 36,000 ft. ? Or noticed lots more atmospheric turbulence in summer vs winter to modify cloud's altitudes, storm energy, etc.
Do you attempt to tell that it is cold at 36,000 and there is no water around?
Or just that Jet heat of compression effects/combustion on the air doesn't set up vapor to aerosol conversions into chemical clouds in the jet's exhaust.
Obviously, there is vapor to aerosol conversion by the jet engine heating effects (compression and combustion) on cold air. Obviously, such is greater an effect for making heavier clouds in the summers.
edit on 11-3-2014 by MagnumOpus because: 7
To understand why air cools as you go up in elevation, you have to know a few things about "atmospheric science," the study of the blanket of air covering the Earth. The first thing you need to know is that the air in Earth's atmosphere is made up of transparent, compressible gases. While you may not be able to see them, they still have mass. They're made up of tiny units called molecules. Gas molecules are spaced pretty far apart, making gases much less dense than liquids or solids. Since gas molecules have a lot of space in which to move around freely, they do just that. This space between molecules explains why air is able to expand and contract dramatically.
MagnumOpus
mrthumpy
reply to post by MagnumOpus
The latest soundings from Cancun show a temperature of 29.4C at 30ft and -40.5C at 36000ft
I know, that is technical, and such leaves you behind.edit on 11-3-2014 by mrthumpy because: (no reason given)
Obviously, there is vapor to aerosol conversion by the jet engine heating effects (compression and combustion) on cold air. Obviously, such is greater an effect for making heavier jet induced chemical white clouds in the summers.
Obviously, the term humidity is often an issue for cold climates, as at the Poles the Humidity is near zero, but there is more snow there than anywhere. The water exists as either ice molecular clusters or as single molecules, where the term humidity still may apply loosely.
The issue is that water is in the atmosphere at altitude, and when a Jet Engine applies heat, combustion emissions, and acts upon that cold air it makes a white chemical fog that lingers and spreads. Earlier jet exhausts didn't have the linger and spreading issues that turn the skies into a white overcast with lots of lines.
edit on 11-3-2014 by MagnumOpus because: 0
mrthumpy
MagnumOpus
mrthumpy
reply to post by MagnumOpus
The latest soundings from Cancun show a temperature of 29.4C at 30ft and -40.5C at 36000ft
I know, that is technical, and such leaves you behind.edit on 11-3-2014 by mrthumpy because: (no reason given)
I guess you never flew through a cloud at 36,000 ft. ? or noticed lots more atmospheric turbulence in summer vs winter to modify clouds altitudes, storm energy, etc.
Can you explain how it can possibly be -40 at 36000ft and 30 on the ground in the tropics? According to you it should be much warmer at altitudeedit on 11-3-2014 by mrthumpy because: (no reason given)
The worst times for chemtrails around this area was a Summer and it was hot. And warmer, at altitude, also.
MagnumOpus
mrthumpy
MagnumOpus
mrthumpy
reply to post by MagnumOpus
The latest soundings from Cancun show a temperature of 29.4C at 30ft and -40.5C at 36000ft
I know, that is technical, and such leaves you behind.edit on 11-3-2014 by mrthumpy because: (no reason given)
I guess you never flew through a cloud at 36,000 ft. ? or noticed lots more atmospheric turbulence in summer vs winter to modify clouds altitudes, storm energy, etc.
Can you explain how it can possibly be -40 at 36000ft and 30 on the ground in the tropics? According to you it should be much warmer at altitudeedit on 11-3-2014 by mrthumpy because: (no reason given)
First, I said warmer in the summer vs winter, for altitude considerations. You have not stated what I said---so you mislead.
mrthumpy
MagnumOpus
mrthumpy
MagnumOpus
mrthumpy
reply to post by MagnumOpus
The latest soundings from Cancun show a temperature of 29.4C at 30ft and -40.5C at 36000ft
I know, that is technical, and such leaves you behind.edit on 11-3-2014 by mrthumpy because: (no reason given)
I guess you never flew through a cloud at 36,000 ft. ? or noticed lots more atmospheric turbulence in summer vs winter to modify clouds altitudes, storm energy, etc.
Can you explain how it can possibly be -40 at 36000ft and 30 on the ground in the tropics? According to you it should be much warmer at altitudeedit on 11-3-2014 by mrthumpy because: (no reason given)
First, I said warmer in the summer vs winter, for altitude considerations. You have not stated what I said---so you mislead.
So you're saying it's currently winter in the tropics
MagnumOpus
mrthumpy
MagnumOpus
mrthumpy
MagnumOpus
mrthumpy
reply to post by MagnumOpus
The latest soundings from Cancun show a temperature of 29.4C at 30ft and -40.5C at 36000ft
I know, that is technical, and such leaves you behind.edit on 11-3-2014 by mrthumpy because: (no reason given)
I guess you never flew through a cloud at 36,000 ft. ? or noticed lots more atmospheric turbulence in summer vs winter to modify clouds altitudes, storm energy, etc.
Can you explain how it can possibly be -40 at 36000ft and 30 on the ground in the tropics? According to you it should be much warmer at altitudeedit on 11-3-2014 by mrthumpy because: (no reason given)
First, I said warmer in the summer vs winter, for altitude considerations. You have not stated what I said---so you mislead.
So you're saying it's currently winter in the tropics
Cut the crap out-----you intend to misled, and still do.
It was adequately explained above, and you are still attempting more non-sense.
If you can't read, then just remain ignorant.
edit on 11-3-2014 by MagnumOpus because: 8
mrthumpy
MagnumOpus
mrthumpy
MagnumOpus
mrthumpy
MagnumOpus
mrthumpy
reply to post by MagnumOpus
The latest soundings from Cancun show a temperature of 29.4C at 30ft and -40.5C at 36000ft
I know, that is technical, and such leaves you behind.edit on 11-3-2014 by mrthumpy because: (no reason given)
I guess you never flew through a cloud at 36,000 ft. ? or noticed lots more atmospheric turbulence in summer vs winter to modify clouds altitudes, storm energy, etc.
Can you explain how it can possibly be -40 at 36000ft and 30 on the ground in the tropics? According to you it should be much warmer at altitudeedit on 11-3-2014 by mrthumpy because: (no reason given)
First, I said warmer in the summer vs winter, for altitude considerations. You have not stated what I said---so you mislead.
So you're saying it's currently winter in the tropics
Cut the crap out-----you intend to misled, and still do.
It was adequately explained above, and you are still attempting more non-sense.
If you can't read, then just remain ignorant.
edit on 11-3-2014 by MagnumOpus because: 8
Stop trying to avoid the fact that it is still extremely cold above the tropics when it is 30 degrees on the ground
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MagnumOpus
Getting back on the topic of chemtrails
mrthumpy
MagnumOpus
Getting back on the topic of chemtrails
Why are they only visible where it's extremely cold?
MagnumOpus
mrthumpy
MagnumOpus
Getting back on the topic of chemtrails
Why are they only visible where it's extremely cold?
Why is what only visible when it is extremely cold? Speak clearly---more detail.
mrthumpy
MagnumOpus
mrthumpy
MagnumOpus
Getting back on the topic of chemtrails
Why are they only visible where it's extremely cold?
Why is what only visible when it is extremely cold? Speak clearly---more detail.
Why are the long white trails behind aircraft that you are referring to as chemtrails only visible when it is extremely cold?
MagnumOpus
mrthumpy
MagnumOpus
mrthumpy
MagnumOpus
Getting back on the topic of chemtrails
Why are they only visible where it's extremely cold?
Why is what only visible when it is extremely cold? Speak clearly---more detail.
Why are the long white trails behind aircraft that you are referring to as chemtrails only visible when it is extremely cold?
Speak clearly means to define where you want to reference the extremely cold area to be.
Are you speaking in terms of the ground level being cold. Speaking in terms of the chemtrails forming in the cold stratosphere.
What is your point of reference for this extremely cold.
Are you taking winter months vs summer.
Speak clearly---identify what your extremely cold reference means---ground---stratosphere?
mrthumpy
MagnumOpus
mrthumpy
MagnumOpus
mrthumpy
MagnumOpus
Getting back on the topic of chemtrails
Why are they only visible where it's extremely cold?
Why is what only visible when it is extremely cold? Speak clearly---more detail.
Why are the long white trails behind aircraft that you are referring to as chemtrails only visible when it is extremely cold?
Speak clearly means to define where you want to reference the extremely cold area to be.
Are you speaking in terms of the ground level being cold. Speaking in terms of the chemtrails forming in the cold stratosphere.
What is your point of reference for this extremely cold.
Are you taking winter months vs summer.
Speak clearly---identify what your extremely cold reference means---ground---stratosphere?
Yes I figured you would continue to avoid the question. Standard practice.