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posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 06:29 PM
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The study of anthropological effects on the Earth and Man are often the most visible and most written about and exposed. So, that is a good place to begin. Yet some of the essential trend line effects of the Acid Rain effects from mainly coal pollution are not well understood and logically connected.

Acid Rain often kills trees and crops depending upon the level of stress due to exposures. It is rainfall dependent, dependent on proximity of coal emission plants and if they use scrubbers.


Obviously, the first thing to suspect is that acid rain changes the pH of the soils and has effects on plant uptake of minerals.

The general rule of thumb is acid rain lessens the uptake of essential trace minerals and increased the uptake of toxic metals.

Depending upon the area's circumstances the effect can be mild or disastrous. When acid rain contributes to the rise of toxic metals in the plant food chain of humans, then the most internally retained toxic metals can lead to systemic health problems.

Such issues of acid rain can and do have impact on the energy production methods used in the US and elsewhere.


For example:

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Metal toxicity is an important actor limiting the growth o plants in many environments. Some metals, such as copper and zinc, are micronutrients at low concentrations and become toxic at higher levels, whereas others (e.g. aluminium and lead) are only known or their toxicity. In some cases, soils are naturally very high in metals. An example is the serpentine soils, which have elevated levels o chromium, cobalt, iron, magnesium and nickel, but are very low in calcium. Low soil pH makes most metals more available or plant uptake and can indirectly lead to metal toxicity (e.g. through acid rain)

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Metal toxicity is responsible or many visual symptoms in plants. Root growth is oen reduced, and leaves may change colour. Competition with nutrient ions oruptake by roots can cause deciency symptoms (e.g.aluminium causes calcium or magnesium deciency).In a similar way, binding o toxic metals with proteins and other compounds because they resemble essential metals can also cause toxicity. Te plasma membrane o root cells is oen damaged by exposure to toxic metals,resulting in leakage o cellular solutes



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www.academia.edu..." target="_blank" class="postlink">Acid rain soil pH effects on uptake toxic metals




posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 06:46 PM
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And how do chemtrails figure into all this, because it's in the title yet not in the OP?



posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 03:27 AM
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posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 03:36 AM
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The next item to connect is many toxic metal retain in the body for long periods of time and are well associated with high blood pressure risk.

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Chronic lead exposure has been associated with elevated blood pressure in epidemiological studies. It is not known whether the previously observed relation between blood lead and hypertension persists after significant reductions have been made in environmental lead contamination. We examined the relation between blood lead levels and blood pressure in a representative sample of 14 952 whites and blacks aged 18 years or older who participated in the Third National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey. Blood lead was measured by atomic absorption spectrophotometry and blood pressure by standard sphygmomanometry. Mean blood lead levels were significantly higher for black men and women (5.4 and 3.4 μg/dL, respectively) compared with white men and women (4.4 and 3.0 μg/dL, respectively). After multivariate adjustment for important covariables, each standard deviation higher blood lead (3.3 μg/dL) was associated with a 0.82 (95% confidence interval [CI], 0.19 to 1.44) mm Hg and a 1.55 (95% CI, 0.47 to 2.64) mm Hg higher systolic blood pressure among black men and women, respectively. In contrast, blood lead level was not associated with blood pressure among white men or women.




Blood Pressure and toxic metal loading



posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 03:49 AM
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The one can discover studies that relate to brain damage due to toxic metal exposures and internal retention, that is connected with increased long term risk for stroke and brain hemorrhage.

Thus, the issues for long termed retained toxic metals become a risk driver for brain damage and health harm linked with wide spread issues of acid rain and related issues with aluminum in the soils and air.

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Uncontrolled high blood pressure damages the brain's structure and function as early as young middle-age, and even the brains of middle-aged people who clinically would not be considered to have hypertension have evidence of silent structural brain damage, a study led by researchers at UC Davis has found.


The investigation found accelerated brain aging among hypertensive and prehypertensive individuals in their 40s, including damage to the structural integrity of the brain's white matter and the volume of its gray matter, suggesting that vascular brain injury "develops insidiously over the lifetime with discernible effects."

The study is the first to demonstrate that there is structural damage to the brains of adults in young middle age as a result of high blood pressure, the authors said. Structural damage to the brain's white matter caused by high blood pressure previously has been associated with cognitive decline in older individuals.





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Brain Damage due to high blood pressure



posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 03:57 AM
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Now we can look at a factor well known with coal emissions and that is mercury. The rise of mercury levels in the food chain is a well know issue and even well associated with eating tuna fish and the general limit for tuna consumption being two cans a week. Some tuna producers modify this by the use of not full grown tuna that have lower levels of retained mercury in their flesh.

The effect in tuna is driven by uptake of mercury in plant material, the concentration of exposures due to predator fish (Tuna) eating the lower food chain fish that ate ocean plant material with mercury

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It found an average blood mercury level of 50 nanomoles per liter of blood, much higher than the 4-nanomole level of the general U.S. population. It also found a relationship between blood mercury levels and blood pressure after adjusting for other factors, such as smoking and physical activity.

Studies have shown that exposure to environmental mercury can affect the endothelium, the delicate lining of blood vessels, and decrease the ability of smooth muscles to relax, which could explain the slight increase in blood pressure seen in the study, Dewailly said.




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Mercury and High Blood Pressure



posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 04:04 AM
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Then, after we know the issues of brain damage being linked with high blood pressure and then drivers for high blood pressure being toxic metals, the finding that blood pressure medicine correlates with lower rates of Alzheimer's.


Thus, one may connect that environmental issues of toxic drivers of blood pressure are part of the Alzheimer's problems.

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THURSDAY, Oct. 24, 2013 (HealthDay News) -- People who take certain commonly used blood pressure medications have a significantly lower risk for Alzheimer's disease than those who don't, a new study suggests.

Although it remains unclear exactly how drugs such as ACE inhibitors or diuretics might protect the brain, researchers say these new findings could lead to a better understanding of Alzheimer's and new treatments to slow or delay the progression of the memory-robbing disease.

"We found a risk reduction by 50 percent. That tells you there must be something there," said study leader Dr. Sevil Yasar, an assistant professor of medicine in the department of geriatric medicine and gerontology at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine.




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Alzheimers and Blood Pressure Meds



posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 04:49 AM
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Now that we know about the acid rain issues of anthropological effects on trees, plants, and systemic shift in toxic metal uptake into the human and animal food chain. So, one way to modify the aging high blood pressure is low sodium, and other ways are avoid the toxic metal food chain. Pathways for concentration in food, like Tuna, are the worst-via Mercury.

One can see that a Tuna Product by Wild Oceans handles this effect with albacore tuna because they only use 3/4 grown smaller albacore tuna to can and that avoids the larger mercury retention fish that are mature or old.


So, here is the first order "chemtrail" method. Ed Teller was the one that proposed this method and it used aluminum particles dumped into the upper atmosphere. In the high risk DOE/USAEC gas diffusion plant technology what captures the leaking HF from rotary joint seals is alumina-------because it is tri-valent and reacts with Fluorine or HF readily.

What LLNL's Ed Teller and his lab proposed was that aluminum would become a "shield", when the real story was the aluminum particles were too small to avert any IR radiation by Mie type backscatter into space. Since Freon is the culprit for the Ozone Hole due to UV-b radiation breaking the Freon's chemical bonds into free fluorine and chlorine, the small aluminum dispersed into the atmosphere reacts with the Cl and F, so there is less free fluorine and chlorine and the mass becomes heavier. Aluminum was a chemical catalyst to change the upper atmosphere's Cl and F chemistry. Make the aluminum particles small enough and the same transport method that pulled Freon into the upper atmosphere also transports aluminum.

The idea being if one can tie up the free fluorine and chlorine, the Ozone Hole will lessen. Simple enought.



The DOE had a big stake in the Freon issues because DOE, due to the huge gas diffusion cooling process, was the largest industrial user of Freon in the world and the largest polluter due to huge Freon losses. The DOE was grandfathered into keeping Freon in their systems per national security of uranium production. Freon was being banned for all other uses, like air condition, refrigeration.




Once the issues of aluminum are connected with mediation of the Freon's Fluorine and Chlorine effects the use of other compounds, like Titanium and Boron, to do some of the same methods, but have metals with less toxic effects. Boron is in the same Periodic Table Column as Aluminum and has similar triple valence attraction for fluorine as Aluminum.

Then, other elements held interest as the sunlight ionization effects of Barium were other special interests for ducting and changing the charge distribution in the atmosphere to affect storm build up. This began part of the weather mediation effects.



This began the process to deal with the rain out of fluorine compounds onto the soils from both Freon decomposition effects and HF emissions from coal burning. Ten percent of the acid rain effects from coal burning are from highly toxic hydrogen fluoride. Fluorine builds in the body with age because of its long term retention effects in bone and calcium tissues. Grazing animals, like cows and deer become most at risk for the build up of fluorine in their body and generally the bone mass has the highest concentration. So, it became a serious issue for cow's bone meal to be ground up and fed back to other cattle. The effect was similar to the concentration of mercury in tuna, as the process of use of cattle bone in the cattle feeds concentrated the fluorine exposures. Then cows were only allowed to reach a certain age to avoid too much toxic build up. That helped eliminate mad cow---CJD---for the most part.


Boron works well for pulling fluorine from the body. But aluminum rising in the human exposure chain was not a good thing-----as it get into food chain---then brain issues. Boron didn't have that issue.



Titanium was tried in the air, but caused too many mold issues and discoloration. Titanium is a flooding method to make another non-toxic metal available to the body. So, it ended up being put in the food chain via various additives in bread, it wound up in many vitamins as a filler.

Flooding techniques are similar to the I-131 method, where people take large doses of natural iodine so it is the principle Iodine available for use in the body.


So, Teller's/LLNL Aluminum methods had issues. The were obvious safer methods with less problems of brain build up---aka Boron. Thus more pharmacology, than chemtrials, per Teller's toxic aluminum.



Next the use of commercial aircraft methods to keep some of the compounds in the air due to daily flights, and high engine compression methods to form heavy fog effects for clouds. There are many ideas from doing water injection in the jet engines to form tiny ice particles at high and cold altitudes that seeded clouds. Ice particles formed aerosol nucleation sites and made fogs that spread.

The need for this was driven by the effects of rising UV-b issues due to the Ozone Hole effects and this radiations impact on the growth of phytoplankton that is part of the Ocean's Sulfur Cycle and cloud seeding via DMS and DMSO releases from this process. The Ocean's cloud cover helps lower the IR radiation / heat reaching the oceans and driving up ocean temperatures and this affecting the retention of CO2 in the oceans. These effects also modify the ocean currents and drive El Nino effects and changes.


For the US system to admit even the food chain issues with acid rain was taboo, and the bigger issues of fluorine's toxic effects in the food chain they wanted to hide deeply, so they played dodgy explanation games on Teller's Aluminum Shield deal.


Technically, Teller's method mediated the Ozone Hole levels to the point that less phytoplanton damage occurred and more ocean clouds formed. They were willing to put up with the Al toxic issues, because the bigger issue was mediation of the Ozone Hole's size and intensity.

To track the phytoplanton healing, satellites were designed and put up to look for the spectral image of the phytoplanton in the oceans and map response and sizes. Then the US had a meter of Ocean Systems response and damage levels to study.



Now that Boron is connected with chemtrails more about Boron's specialness------It was known long ago, even perhaps known going back to the fertile crescent and the food served on the Lord's Supper, and even Baptism in the Boron rich Jordan River. Boron is a huge factor in Northern Israel and even the foods grown near the Old Temple and City of Jerusalem benefited from Boron being part of their food chain. So, part of the massive cover up on chemtrail methods as they pertain to Boron have huge biblical significance, which it appears organized religion doesn't want their followers to discover. The inventor for the Boron processes and those less toxic methods beyond those of Teller's aluminum termed the process air pharmacology because of the connections with Boron and health in the Fertile Crescent Region, which contains the largest Boron deposit on Earth.


Thus, Chemtrial methods are about either dealing with coal acid emissions or Freon connected acid emissions. And also dealing with extra heat deposition into the atmosphere, oceans, and land masses, which connects with Weather Control methods.

It is a large system on the scale of the Manhattan Project and used commercial aircraft redesigns to cause more cloud cover, as well as more special aircraft connected with Evergreen air for more special studies and special area needs to control issues of CJD in animals.



So, you know more about chemtrails than 90% of the people in the world at this point. The needs of man for energy began the issues of serious anthropological damage to the planet in the form of toxic metals and toxic fluorine releases. Some of these appeared as the London Fog with high levels of HF in the low hung air, and in the US as the Donora, Pa. Fluoride Fog that killed many due to similar low clouds with too high a level of HF in the water vapor. That was only the beginning as the rising effects from toxic releases would come to affect the grazing cattle production chain, and even wild gazing deer populations in high risk areas due to natural deposits and close industry in some cases, plus the acid rain pH shift driving toxic metal uptake.


Some propose that the entire process be transparent and the world educated as to what the problems are and how to correct them, and the more sinister powers worried of blames assigned to them are interested in cover up. Obviously, I am committed to openness and full disclosures.

Part of that process is education, beginning with learning the large system issue of acid rain and then the next step into Teller's method, and then the much larger methods of other atmospheric catalysts, cloud remediation methods, links to climate change patterns and so on.



posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 05:39 AM
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Now, since the basic issues of chemtrials first and second generation are on the table. One can take note that Ed Teller and LLNL began the chemtrails issues and the start of the cover up. The second generation effects came from ORNL in Tennessee and the DOE complex there that had extensive knowledge of handling fluorine and capture of fluorine. One particular Sr. Development Staff person there brought to the table extensive knowledge of volcanic releases, extensive knowledge of the Gas Diffusion Process, and also highly interesting religious factors connected with the Fertile Crescent region and Boron effects on health.


More and more people are taking about chemtrails and even a number of whistle-blowers are coming to the front to speak of the massive cover ups on anthropological harm from human's effects on the environment and the hidden methods to re-mediate these harms secretively.


One such person:

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Hazardous materials are being sprayed over the population
In January 2014, at the 1st Annual Save Long Island event, I was invited to talk about the dangers of GMOs. But, it was the presentation of Kristen Meghan, a former Air Force Bioenvironmental Engineer turned whistleblower that really has me concerned about the future of humanity.
If you ever wondered about the most serious global issue of our time – chemtrails – this video (below) is a must to watch and share with your family and friends.

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Think about it – these spraying projects place tons of tiny (toxic) particles of aluminum oxide, barium and strontium into our atmosphere and, eventually, our lungs – causing a wide variety of health issues like, nausea, diarrhea, headache, eczema, cardiac deaths and many upper respiratory illnesses.
Of course, conventionally-trained family physicians will tell you it’s an ‘allergy’ and prescribe drugs. But, you and I both know the real cause is an overabundance of environmental and food-related toxins.



Source:

CHemtrail Whistle-blower






posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 05:46 AM
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I urge you to immediately take all of this information to an attorney. Please, for the love of God, let us know what the outcome of that meeting is.



posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 05:59 AM
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The above article brought out the next generation for chemtrails and that is using strontium releases. This isn't Sr-90, which was one of the most dangerous effects of the Cold War's nuclear testing and found in children's teeth and bones. It is just the natural element strontium, that is similar to magnesium on the Periodic Table.


Understanding chemtrails is a two part process: One has to consider the chemical mediation effects, and the health moderation effects to get a clearer picture of the intentions.


So, check on why strontium is a part of the air releases, one finds that strontium improves bone health. We also know that fluorine harms bone health and builds with age. Books like Fluoride---The Aging Factor shows how fluorine builds up in bone with age and to the point that is literally results in chronic illness due to beneficial trace metals uptake and use affecting essential enzyme processes in cells. No human lives beyond a certain bone concentration of fluorine.


Once one learns about strontium one discovers that it is a radio-protective agent against Sr-90, and the effect is similar to how Iodine pills protect the thyroid from I-131.

Bottom line is Strontium is a treatment for age related bone degeneration and applies to those connected with Sr-90, and fluorine in the bone mass.

Boron targeted the like effect as Boron is a chemical ligand method for getting fluorine out of the body. In areas of the world where fluoride in the water or soils drives fluorosis, they literally use cheap Borax in the died to keep the harm from those so distressed by nature's distribution of fluorine.

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Mention strontium to most people, and they will almost always immediately think of strontium-90, a highly dangerous, radioactive component of nuclear fallout produced during atmospheric testing of nuclear weapons in the 1950s. As a result of above-ground nuclear testing, radioactive strontium spread throughout the environment and contaminated dairy products and other foods, and subsequently accumulated in the bones of both children and adults.

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Furthermore, repeatedly administering stable strontium can even gradually eliminate radioactive strontium from the body. The stable form slowly replaces the radioactive form in bone, and radioactive strontium is excreted in the urine.
Strontium is element number 38 of the periodic table of elements. It was discovered in 1808 and was named after Strontian, a town in Scotland. Strontium is one of the most abundant elements on earth, comprising about 0.04 percent of the earth's crust. At a concentration of 400 parts per million, there is more strontium in the earth's crust than carbon. Strontium is also the most abundant trace element in seawater, at a concentration of 8.1 parts per million. The human body contains about 320 mg of strontium, nearly all of which is in bone and connective tissue.

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Strontium tends to accumulate in bone&emdash;especially where active remodeling is taking place. In 1959, researchers at the Mayo Clinic investigated the effect of strontium in 32 individuals suffering from osteoporosis.1




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Strontium and Bone health



posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 06:02 AM
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Put simply----one atty won't get to the bottom of anything.

Only via the education of the public as to what is going on and why will provide the avenue for change. The public has the right to know, and they collectively can promote change.



posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 06:07 AM
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The title is very clear as the understanding for chemtrails begins with the process of history for anthropological problems and the development of the tread leads to the chemtrails issues. Aluminum uptake is a factor in acid rain, also common to chemtrails. So, to begin the history of the co-related issues-----the title clearly states it starts with acid rain, then develops in the later thread content.

Thus, the thread began with the prime anthropological effects of acid rain and health impacts. Then it moves to what secret methods are used on issues linked to acid rain, which contains HF as part of the problem.
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posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 06:11 AM
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CHemtrail Whistle-blower


Well if this isn't a wild coincidence because I had a discussion about this very video yesterday.

Now what I find funny is the fact this lady has said she is not a whistleblower on chemtrails, yet now she is some kind of spokesperson for them.

You do understand that first chemtrails do not exist and Mrs. Meghan has flipped flopped more than a fish out of water when discussing this subject so as a source she wouldn't come close to be one I would call credible.

In fact here you may want to read this...


Mick, the confusion lies with people who aren't familiar with my activism, my whistleblower label is not related to chemtrails. I'm been doing media for a while and chemtrails is just one item I discuss. When I do shows they introduce me as a whistleblower but the topic I discuss that day isn't why I was a AF whistleblower. What I have brought to the table about chemtrails is that I personally saw the processes going on at Tinker AFB. I've never said anything more than that, nor embellished on any of that data. I did samples and I still take samples here in Chicago for a study I am doing. In this interview below, you can see I contribute to media for differnct reasons. I don't know if you have heard of Adam Kokesh, Danny Panzella, or Gary Franchi... these are people who also do this and I look up to them.


www.metabunk.org...

So as a whistleblower what can one believe from her?



posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 06:20 AM
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The title is very clear as the understanding for chemtrails begins with the process of history for anthropological problems and the development of the tread leads to the chemtrails issues. Aluminum uptake is a factor in acid rain, also common to chemtrails. So, to begin the history of the co-related issues-----the title clearly states it starts with acid rain, then develops in the later thread content.


You do understand that Aluminum makes up 8% of the Earths crust so you will have some form of it in rain.

Also what about the times when planes didn't fly, was Acid rain not around then or do you think that it is a new phenomenon?

How does one know Aluminum is in chemtrails when not one person has ever taken a sample from a so called chemtrail, because all test are either soil samples, or air samples which would contain Aluminum anyway.

In fact here is a good place to start if you want to learn...

contrailscience.com...

It will discuss everything you think you know about chemtrails.



posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 07:13 AM
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"Chemtrails" interests have developed greatly due to the Internet and the rising concerns on environment and health effects. Human interests in energy production collided with the natural balance of nature.

Some of the human induced effects are similar to what volcanic releases have done in past history, but one learns from those devastating effects of nature and applies that learning to how natural processes mediated the problems from nature. One of the principle dangers from volcanic releases is from hydrogen fluorine and it kills animals via drinking water hundreds of miles away in some cases.

Teller and LLNL in the 1990s put up a huge warning statement and started the idea of putting metal mass into the atmosphere to modify the outcome.

Then ORNL got into the environmental concerns issues due to their own emissions of fluorine, huge Freon losses, and the effects of UV-b on the Earth and its inhabitants. ORNL kept track of issues like Energy Productions impact on the Oceans and other Energy vs environmental impact issues.

The message was clear in the latter 1980s that serious harm issues were connected with acid rain from energy, as well as the issue that Freon was not the claimed inert substance any longer. Humans screw up seriously and that screw up affected lives and had huge financial impacts.

What most don't know is that Oak Ridge was highly involved in many sinister operations that allow health harm to come to their workers from toxic metal exposures and chemical exposures to long term low level fluorine compound releases. There was a huge number of injured workers in Oak Ridge and other DOE sites, and some of that was exposed via the EEOICPA legislation.

Oak Ridge highly tried to affect Presidents missions and Congressional directions. Oak Ridge was involved in the attempts to kill Castro using radiation and virus methods, and also due to that connection that failed against Castro, became involved via the same operations with the killing of JFK as part of a globalist interest in control over the US.

How the larger chemtrails operations from the Oak Ridge contributions used the same connections that were involved in the JFK Coup to install Johnson and cover up the Globalist interests actually being backed by Oak Ridge and their nuclear bomb efforts.

These globalists that didn't want the Kennedy efforts on Peace do not want it told that their efforts for wars and domination of the world's affairs using Oak Ridge Bomb making is highly connected and uses the same globalist alliances.


ORNL's ideas pushed into prominence the idea for HAARP to heat up the upper atmosphere and provide a catalyst for higher reaction rates to push the speed of fluorine and chlorine reactions driving Ozone Hole factors. HAARP also had the ability to modulate the mass in the upper atmosphere and change its shape at very low frequencies that could modulate Earth Crusts movements using resonance methods of the Surfaces of the planet.

Such methods came to support the Pentagon studies for total weather control by 2020, as part of the globalist methods. There had long been wealth warfare and it was seen in Vietnam with cloud seeding to keep the supply lines of the Communist flooded and delayed.

An article that speaks to some of this:

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First Rule of Understanding: There are very large, winner-take-all games orchestrated by the Global Interests of the World. We have investigated, researched and found substantial evidence of a multiplicity of Global operations designed to mitigate various and theoretical Global catastrophes, as defined by a late 1980's and 1990's International Panel of Conferees. (The value of who are they, what's the politics smell like and all that is not of the utmost importance in our attempt, herein, to describe what serious destruction they have caused and are causing to Humans and our Finite Environment.
( Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change )(1)

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Dr. Edward Teller wrote a white paper in the late 1990's describing a remedial operation, strategy, epic-in-proportion, to change the predicted course of what was believed by an International group of Scientists, including Dr. Edward Teller, Livermore National Laboratories, et al, to be the cataclysmic certainty from the results of global-warming, crisis level Ultra-Violet/Cosmic radiation, crisis Ozone-layer depletion and other theoretical doom.




Source:

Chemtrails and Teller
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posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 07:35 AM
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What about the toxic crap spewed out by volcanoes every single day/hour? hydrogen, helium, hydrogen sulfide, carbon dioxide,
carbon monoxide, sulfur, smoke particulates, ash, cannot remember any more.



posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 07:41 AM
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Such methods came to support the Pentagon studies for total weather control by 2020, as part of the globalist methods. There had long been wealth warfare and it was seen in Vietnam with cloud seeding to keep the supply lines of the Communist flooded and delayed.


So you do understand that cloud seeding has nothing to do with chemtrails, geoengineering, and is banned by the UN being used as a military weapon.

Cloud seeding has been discussed so many times on ATS it isn't even funny.

And before you start to toss out these as evidence...

Patents
HR 2977
Air Force owning the weather by 2025

You may want to use the search function and go through the threads discussing these.

Also because something was done in the past does not mean they are doing it today, plus there isn't any evidence that shows any nefarious program is being run today.



posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 08:20 AM
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pikestaff
What about the toxic crap spewed out by volcanoes every single day/hour? hydrogen, helium, hydrogen sulfide, carbon dioxide,
carbon monoxide, sulfur, smoke particulates, ash, cannot remember any more.


It is part of the overall equations.

Volcanic issues were part of the model for nuclear war and the Nuclear Winter and Atmospheric Black out due to material pushed into the atmosphere by volcanic eruption is similar. It is the like same method of these aerosol effects in air that formed the science behind using aerosol to cool down the planet a bit with global haze, clouds, and other aerosol formation methods.


But, for decades now, the emissions of coal plants have affected the weather because many of the acids emitted are hygroscopic and actually results in making more clouds.

So, as the push is on to clean the acids from the air from coal emissions, we are also killing one of the cloud making systems that humans induced and that effect leads to more heating of the water and ground mass. Doing one good thing, in this case, leads to doing another thing that isn't good in the interim.

It is compound as the UV-b affects the photoplankton and Ocean Sulfur Cycle process that results in less clouds over the oceans.


So, to accomplish these remediation efforts, there is need to do more than sitting around waiting on the sky to fall. The planet has been through some huge disasters and recovered. The planet now has some human influenced disasters, and human methods can augment and speed the natural recovery methods that take a long time.
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posted on Mar, 9 2014 @ 09:49 AM
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In order to have chemtrails, you need airplanes that have spray apparatus built into them, (lots and lots of planes to cover all NATO countries) You need bases for these planes to land and take off, you need ground personnel to recover, repair, reload, and relaunch these planes, and you need pilots to fly them and air traffic control folks to direct them.

So while you have lots of text and lots of posts here, none of them show how any of that is happening. So you have what we like to call "speculation".

When you have some proof, please stop back by.

Have a super day.






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