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tothetenthpower
reply to post by deadcalm
But what would you have the Palestinians do after 65 years of illegal military occupation? Would you not fight in whatever limited way you could aginst that oppression? Desperation breeds immoral acts in the absence of any other recourse.
No no, were not going to play this game where we try to pin the blame on the Israeli or the Palestinian. It's so far gone at this point, with SO MUCH bad blood on either side, that trying to claim one over the other is really just an exercise in political ideology.
Trust me, I'm no fan of the Israeli leadership, nor the Palestinian one, but let's be honest here, the people running the show on both sides of that aisle are exactly the same.
If we allow our emotions to govern our decision making in these sorts of conflicts, then you're simply telling one war criminal that his crimes are valid when somebody else's are not.
Both groups should be dragged to the Hague and given the most harsh sentence available under the Geneva Convention.
~Tenth
buster2010
Because Israel is breaking international law by annexing land that doesn't belong to them. These other nations you are talking about isn't trying to annex Palestinian land.
reply to post by Xtrozero
It was a part of Jordan before their little war with them, so are we saying that they need to give the land back to Jordan?
Shaiker
Water cost money why continue providing the spicket to that neighbor who hates you. He shoots at your children, he never pitches in to pay for the water and electricity he is stealing from you. The other welfare recipients on your street think your a bad guy because you dont let your neihbor mooch off your hard work.
Israel definetely lives in the wrong neihborhood
No one wants to work they just want to shoot stuff, beat on their woman, complain about deplorable conditions while they squander away billions in welfare on stuff to terrorize their neihbors with.
Its funny when its an issue with Christians you come into a thread screaming about how bad religions is, but when its a muslim vs Jew the Muslims are always the victim.
Shaiker
Water cost money why continue providing the spicket to that neighbor who hates you. He shoots at your children, he never pitches in to pay for the water and electricity he is stealing from you. The other welfare recipients on your street think your a bad guy because you dont let your neihbor mooch off your hard work.
Israel definetely lives in the wrong neihborhood
No one wants to work they just want to shoot stuff, beat on their woman, complain about deplorable conditions while they squander away billions in welfare on stuff to terrorize their neihbors with.
Its funny when its an issue with Christians you come into a thread screaming about how bad religions is, but when its a muslim vs Jew the Muslims are always the victim.
Xtrozero
buster2010
Because Israel is breaking international law by annexing land that doesn't belong to them. These other nations you are talking about isn't trying to annex Palestinian land.
Who does the land belong to? It was a part of Jordan before their little war with them, so are we saying that they need to give the land back to Jordan?
buster2010
If the land belonged to Jordan before the war then the land goes back to Jordan after the war. Israel has no right to clam any land it captured during a war.
Danbones
reply to post by Xtrozero
some day it might be your house that gets taken..
maybe by zealots, maybe by illegal foreclosure, or something like that
maybe so the government can give it to corporate cronies...
we will see then how you like it
and maybe they will get it back and give to what ever aboriginal peoples lived in your neighborhood before you got there
should make a good thread
deadcalm
2 states for 2 people....thats how it should be. The Palestinians should have the same right to a nation and self determination that the Jews enjoy.....based on the 1967 borders. Settlements should be dismantled and all of the illegal squatters should be sent back to Israel as their presence there is in violation of International Law. Palestinian refugees in Jordan should be either given the right to return as full Israeli citizens or handsomely compensated for their stolen homes and land.
I expect that any peace deal would include amnesty from criminal prosecution from War Crimes and Crimes against humanity that have been committed on BOTH sides. Wipe the slate clean and move forward.
reply to post by jessiejames4211
This is a joke right ?
Lol international community has offered to build water supply for palinstines and there government refuses !!
All historical evidence shows that is Jewish land !
This is a issue over Jews being there that simple.
I read someone say that the Jews have nothing to worry about expect a few homemade rockets . How would you feel if your family was killed by one if these ?
How would you act if you where in charge of the protection of Israel ?
If one person dies it's under your watch ?
Your spouting off pure Muslim propaganda
I'm going to say it now no I am not a troll
I am a regular guy who lives in Canada.
For you to sit there and claim peace is not achievable cus Israel won't let it is ludacris
People like you are the problem Palestine will not recognize Israel as a nation
People like you are the problem Palestine
you want peace by Israel erasing there existence and sub biting to Islamic rule .
Sorry for the long reply but the other side needed to be said
pure Muslim propaganda