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A lost landscape where early humans roamed more than 12,000 years ago has been uncovered beneath the North Sea. A map of the underwater world reveals criss-crossing rivers, giant lakes and gentle hills around which hunter-gatherers made their homes and found their meals toward the end of the last ice age.
The region was inundated between 18000 and 6000BC, when the warming climate melted the thick glaciers that pressed down from the north.
Earlier studies using high resolution Google earth satellite imagery shows extensive remains of ancient canals, ponds, artificial islands and harbours all along the banks of the rivers Parana, Paraguay, Amazon, the Pantanal, Tabasco in Mexico and the Louisiana seaboard. The Louisiana canals are gradually being submerged by the waters of the Gulf of Mexico as a result of the numerous canals created by oil exploration companies which also makes it difficult to distinguish between ancient canals and those of modern times in the Louisiana zone.
Some views from Google Earth...
double lane ancient canal underwater Louisiana
Above, sunken canal complex on the Louisiana seaboard. These seem to be mostly former oil comany canals, some used for oil pipelines and other for access to drilling and exploration rigs. see Louisiana canals page
circular harbour Louisiana
Above, amongst the oil company canal complexes, there are intriguing sites such as this one which looks like circular harbour complex from ancient times.
reply to post by Danbones
Harte has no idea what he's talking about concerning these things. The size of the area containing these structures is so large any attempt at that scale would be the biggest undertaking ever imagined. They are found in areas where the Army Corps hasn't bothered to even think about going and for no good reason anyway. Some people act like authorities on this subject, but they've not spent one minute studying them and deep down inside they know they've waisted their lives studying the wrong things. I think there are going to be a lot of bitter archaeologists just around the corner, so we have to prepare for the angry responses.
Oh, yes, magically self-dredging permanent canals.
which ones are you talking about? Louisiana? Texas? Florida? the entire East Coast of the US? which ones do the Army Corps dredge? How about the Little Egg Harbor Inlet in NJ? do they dredge that all the time?
bottleslingguySeriously, instead of just pretending to be smart on this subject please be a little more specific as to what you are talking about. This is your moment to shine and win some points around here. Show us proof of the Army Corps of Engineers dredging this entire system of obviously man made submerged formations. Take your pick where to start but make sure you include the full scope or else you are just playing games.
Raised just a meter or two above the water line, all of the islands are fixed in place, Chmura said. They are all oriented in the same direction. And they all have a high point in the same place. Based on those patterns, scientists have long suspected that people somehow influenced their formation.
Evidence for that theory first came in 2005, when archaeologist Margo Schwadron began excavating on some of the islands and found 42 archaeological sites that were full of human garbage. These trash mounds, or middens, contained ceramics, seeds and lots of animal bones, among other types of domestic debris.
The oldest scraps dated back more than 5,000 years, which blew away previous estimates that people first settled the Everglades just 500 to 1,000 years ago. Except for a period of yet-to-be explained abandonment between 4,400 and 2,700 years ago, the area remained populated for millennia.
reply to post by tallcool1
I have long believed that history, as is taught to us, is filled with holes
The search function here is difficult. Try this:
Link to a site-specific Google search of ATS on this subject.
That's more that the owner of the linked "ancient canal system" website has done to support his claim. Why is more required of me?.
It is interesting to note that the canals were constructed in a well planned and artistic pattern. This further indicated the intellect and aesthetic appreciation of this culture.
How old is this site?
The age of Tiahuanaco is difficult to assess and very controversial. Polish-born Bolivian archaeologist Arturo Posnansky has concluded that the Tiahuanaco culture began in the region at about 1600 B.C. and flourished until at least 1200 A.D. His disciple, Professor Hans Schindler-Bellamy, believed Tiahuanaco to have reached back 12,000 years before the present era, although a more conservative Peruvian archaeologist. More recently, other archaeologists have pushed back the date to an amazing 14,000 years ago.
The controversy arises because most of the datable artifacts are from the more recent past, while the stone megaliths and other structures do not lend themselves to dating techniques like Carbon 14. Many stone pieces have been uncovered from more than six feet of earth. The mountain ranges which surround the area are not high enough to permit sufficient runoff of water or wind erosion to have covered the ruins to such a depth. This suggests a very old date as the accumulation of sediment is slow in this arid land.
There is also evidence that architectural structures exist at the bottom of Lake Titicaca, suggesting that the civilization existed before the lake was formed. Many scientists believe that the lake formed during some great flood and find similar legends around the world of a flood dating back thousands of years. The local legend contains reference to this flood in their creation myth.
One of the construction blocks from the pier was fashioned from a stone block that weighs an estimated 440 tons
Where i am on georgian bay, off lake huron on the great lakes, the water has been dropping...since the last glaciation I found a self sharpening stone skin scraper that was buried in silt heavy end down and vertical maybe 200 feet up the side of the shore line...where the edge of the glacier was once a spirit possesion or ancestor memory event the elders said..it was confirmed by an expert. but the expert couldn't deal with the location....messed him up a little... a self sharpening stone tool...
reply to post by Iwinder
its so good to see you on the thread Iwinder
yeah, a dr jury the head archaeologist for ontario verified the skinscraper
the were working on St Marie at the time
but the location made him go purple
i made sure all the witnesses were with me
The support provided for this stupid idea is a series of Google Earth pics.
The "researcher" is a guy that posts shots from Google Earth and makes inane claims about them without even trying to find out if what he is seeing is modern or not.
So, no I don't "have to" do this, since the guy making the claims is not.
reply to post by Harte
they're doing that as a result of Sandy, these things have been there much longer than that AND much more extensively along the entire east coast.
there are actually modern developments on top of parts of existing structures that go out into the water at depths. Look into the marshes in that area. You can easily distinguish the natural creeks caused by the ebb and flow of the tides but there are also grid patterns all over the place and straight lines at straight angles to one another. Not from dredging, animals or people draining fields. If they were man made at one time how have they not grown in after an obviously long amount of time. No one maintains them and you'd have to in order to keep them clear of weeds. They are all over the area but have no purpose nor does anyone dredge them so they must dredge themselves. That's another interesting aspect to this: what keeps them from being covered with sediment and growth? The patterns are all over the place yet no one is dredging marsh areas. You can find long straight canals that go for miles yet no one can claim responsibility. You are not even coming close to the scale involved