Beijing-bound MAS plane carrying 239 people missing as of 20 mins ago.

reply to post by Zaphod58


But that was the middle of the atlantic.. probably took a whole day just to get to that site...not to mention how deep that water was..

We're talking about a much smaller (albeit still large) body of water... with 40 vessels looking

reply to post by PhotonEffect


TWA 800 also exploded at a much lower altitude and scattered a huge flaming amount of fuel around the area, with a number of witnesses.

There's a chance that this flight didn't explode, but broke up. Or maybe it did come down intact.

reply to post by xavi1000


I dont know, what i do know -

The radar transponder signal unless intentionaly blocked, would show a real time evalution of what was happening, changing heading, lowering/incresing hight, changing squawk etc.

A plane would not just do what it showed on radar and act like a missile changing direction and hight so suddenly.

I have never seen a plane respond like this in all the years i have watched thousands of flights on radar sites like Flightradar24.

are they actually considering there's a chance the airplane was vaporized?

Nuclear test experts to check if plane exploded


By Associated Press, Updated: Monday, March 10, 1:44 PM


UNITED NATIONS — The head of the organization that monitors the nuclear test ban treaty said Monday he has asked its experts to see if they detected an explosion at high altitude of the missing Malaysian Airlines plane.

Lassina Zerbo, executive director of the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty Organization told a news conference that the CTBTO uses “infrasound” — or infrasonic sensors — to monitor the earth mainly for atmospheric nuclear explosions...

Zerbo said infrasound would be the best technology to check for an explosion on the missing plane if there was a monitoring station nearby, “or the explosion is at a level or at an amplitude that it could be detected.”

source

reply to post by PhotonEffect


You are also talking about a plane that could be 100 miles from where it was last seen on radar, along with a relatively tiny search area prior to now.

reply to post by Zaphod58


True but it's just not the rescue effort how many local fishing boats would of been in the area hundreds if not thousands it's amazing no one has seen something , debris etc

reply to post by reject


No. If the plane exploded it may have been large enough for their detectors to pick it up.

reply to post by Zaphod58


Which makes it even more strange,

100 miles in most directions from the last radar blip takes right over or at least very close to land... Yet no one is claiming to have witnessed it crashing....

reply to post by auswally


But fishing boats tend to work certain areas. If it was outside of those areas they wouldn't have found anything either.

For now the plane has disappeared.
Worst case scenario that fits the bill as it stands:
Iranian perpertrators got on board with some chemicals:
Wait for the plane be on autopilot.
They poored together.
NaCN + H+ --> HCNgas + Na+
Their masks protect them and killed the rest.
They forced the reinforced door to the cockpit.
They took the plane
dived under the radar.
turned left flew to Iran.
Landed the plane.
Refueled the plane to full (5000 miles action radius)
stack it full of explosives maybe nuclear.
Fly somewhere else and detonate or ram.

I guess some security people must be really nervous now and we have a goooood reason to make sure every plane that gets on our radar from now on to doublecheck if it is not our vanished plane, until they find that this plane actually crashed.

Aren't there any reports of all the mobile phone users on the plane. Surely there are plenty of trackable devices such as iphones etc that will give a clearer picture of where and when they last made calls and current location, if contactable etc.

If it turned out they all stopped being trackable at a certain time then chances are it was an explosion, disintegration or if some are still trackable at delayed intervals until they aren't then perhaps it was sea impact.

All are valid and give clues to the happenings of that flight.

Additionally, there were a few people on board that might provide clues as to whether it was specifically targeted, for example,there were 12 top Asian artists of on board having just been to an artist convention or something similar and a few respected scientists.

I didn't read all the thread so these might have been covered but there seems a lack of information on these areas in MSM, so far.

Could it have decended to an altitude under the radar envelope? This is truly mysterious

reply to post by PhotonEffect


It was early morning in sparsely populated areas, where people are usually sleeping at that time.

reply to post by UKGuy1805

Maybe that data indicated severe trouble for a few seconds before signals were gone. This assumes no problems with the capture and storage of the data.

Negro Iranians? Now I'm really confused.

www.telegraph.co.uk...
The two men traveling on stolen passports ....have been identified as Iranian nationals. ...
The friend, who knew one of the men from his school days in Iran, said the men had bought the fake passports because they wanted to migrate to Europe.

www.theglobeandmail.com...
Meanwhile, Malaysian authorities are saying that the two men looked African. ...When reporters asked for a description, Mr. Azharuddin referred to Mario Balotelli, an Italian soccer star whose birth parents are from Ghana.


And I'm not buying the "refugee scam" story either. Any foreigner landing in Germany without a passport is immediately put in a lockdown refugee camp. They don't just release them into the country. Not anymore. Maybe 20 years ago, but not now. And the German authorities would probably raise a stink with the airline that flew them into the country without checking their ID, possibly even fining them. Plus they check your passport again right before you board the plane, so there is really no place to ditch the passport anyway. I'm not an expert on how they do it in Beijing, but it's probably the same everywhere in this day and age of global government.



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40 ships and 34 aircraft from nine countries are searching the land and sea, the white areas are currently being searched and the red areas in the coming days, there's still a huge area to cover.

reply to post by NeoSpace


Its interesting how far west in the Malacca Straight they are looking..

What do they suspect

reply to post by all2human


It would have shown on radar that it was decending as i understand FR24 works down to 1000ft and sometimes even on the ground.

reply to post by UKGuy1805


FR24 uses the transponder data to track flights.