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Beijing-bound MAS plane carrying 239 people missing as of 20 mins ago.
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reply to post by Bilk22
Fuel was a HUGE issue. They had enough to reach Beijing on the planned flight path. That means, that going in a straight line, across Vietnam, and across China, they had enough to reach Beijing with a reserve left over. That doesn't mean that they had enough to fly any flight path they wanted to, playing "dodge the radar", and still reach Nanming. Airlines don't put enough fuel in to fly any path they choose, they put the fuel in based on the planned flight path, with a reserve to reach another airport in the area, with maybe a little more for weather if there's going to be bad weather along the way.
Fuel was a HUGE issue. They had enough to reach Beijing on the planned flight path. That means, that going in a straight line, across Vietnam, and across China, they had enough to reach Beijing with a reserve left over. That doesn't mean that they had enough to fly any flight path they wanted to, playing "dodge the radar", and still reach Nanming. Airlines don't put enough fuel in to fly any path they choose, they put the fuel in based on the planned flight path, with a reserve to reach another airport in the area, with maybe a little more for weather if there's going to be bad weather along the way.
Bilk22
I'd think my theory is a best case scenario as the people on board would be alive and not dead in the water.edit on 82649Mondayk22 by Bilk22 because: (no reason given)
You don't base a theory on "best case scenario" you base it on the information.
civpop
Reports in media that satellites will now be used to broaden the search.
Reports that Cathay pacific flight to hong long reported spotting debris.
Source
Malaysian Airlines investigators use strange soccer player comparison to describe men using fake passports.
news.nationalpost.com...
MH370 fake passport passengers 'looked like Mario Balotelli' Thai police and Interpol have questioned the proprietors of a travel agency in the resort town of Pattaya that sold one-way tickets to two men now known to have been travelling on flight MH370 using stolen passports.
news.nationalpost.com...[ed itby]edit on 10-3-2014 by Mikeultra because: suicide
Experts say possible causes of the apparent crash include an explosion, catastrophic engine failure, terrorist attack, extreme turbulence, pilot error or even suicide.
Has anyone thought of fire?
Swiss Air flight #111 caught on fire after leaving New York and as it was flying over Nova Scotia, if you remember.
Fire can disorientate a crew very quickly.
Swiss Air flight #111 caught on fire after leaving New York and as it was flying over Nova Scotia, if you remember.
Fire can disorientate a crew very quickly.
It is now being reported that an Iranian bought stolen passport holders tickets
news.sky.com...
news.sky.com...
edit on CDTMon, 10 Mar 2014 14:06:47 -0500u3102x147x1 by
TruthxIsxInxThexMist because: (no reason given)
Maybe you should look at a map first and calculate the distances before making that assertion.
Zaphod58
reply to post by Bilk22
Fuel was a HUGE issue. They had enough to reach Beijing on the planned flight path. That means, that going in a straight line, across Vietnam, and across China, they had enough to reach Beijing with a reserve left over. That doesn't mean that they had enough to fly any flight path they wanted to, playing "dodge the radar", and still reach Nanming. Airlines don't put enough fuel in to fly any path they choose, they put the fuel in based on the planned flight path, with a reserve to reach another airport in the area, with maybe a little more for weather if there's going to be bad weather along the way.
reply to post by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
According to the travel agent, she knows the ticket purchaser as "Mr. Ali" and he is a regular customer of hers. The original tickets were purchased, and expired on March 6th, but expired, so he repurchased tickets for this flight.
According to the travel agent, she knows the ticket purchaser as "Mr. Ali" and he is a regular customer of hers. The original tickets were purchased, and expired on March 6th, but expired, so he repurchased tickets for this flight.
You have no information to base your "theory" on. Mine at least has some that has been reported by various sources. Besides, it really doesn't matter what's bandied about here now does it?
Zaphod58
Bilk22
I'd think my theory is a best case scenario as the people on board would be alive and not dead in the water.edit on 82649Mondayk22 by Bilk22 because: (no reason given)
You don't base a theory on "best case scenario" you base it on the information.
edit on
83909Mondayk22 by Bilk22 because: (no reason given)
reply to post by Bilk22
So they had enough fuel to fly around Vietnam, dodging the Philippines, the ships that are patrolling the Spratly Islands, and up into China, with no one noticing them, even though they had planned to fly directly over Vietnam. It's not exactly like that added an extra hundred miles to the route. Fuel would have been a concern.
So they had enough fuel to fly around Vietnam, dodging the Philippines, the ships that are patrolling the Spratly Islands, and up into China, with no one noticing them, even though they had planned to fly directly over Vietnam. It's not exactly like that added an extra hundred miles to the route. Fuel would have been a concern.
Tickets are issued to a named person. The guys used false identities. Mr. Ali had to have know that in order to purchase the tickets in their assumed names. No? Or is this just another conspiracy?
Zaphod58
reply to post by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
According to the travel agent, she knows the ticket purchaser as "Mr. Ali" and he is a regular customer of hers. The original tickets were purchased, and expired on March 6th, but expired, so he repurchased tickets for this flight.
reply to post by MRuss
Gee Did you also think that this happened after 9/11 and 7/7 and all the rest?
All this passport checking crap is just lip service and excuses. They don't really care about keeping us safe.
What they care about is the power they can assert when they feel like it.
Gee Did you also think that this happened after 9/11 and 7/7 and all the rest?
All this passport checking crap is just lip service and excuses. They don't really care about keeping us safe.
What they care about is the power they can assert when they feel like it.
I guess I'll have to do the work of obtaining the distances. However it's clear you have not looked at a map as to where Beijing is in relation to the reported landing site. I'll see what I come up with
Zaphod58
reply to post by Bilk22
So they had enough fuel to fly around Vietnam, dodging the Philippines, the ships that are patrolling the Spratly Islands, and up into China, with no one noticing them, even though they had planned to fly directly over Vietnam. It's not exactly like that added an extra hundred miles to the route. Fuel would have been a concern.
I'll also add, there's no reason to believe that if the scenario is as I suggested, they still could have taken the route over Vietnam escorted by Chinese military if the Vietnamese allowed that to happen. Just saying.
reply to post by Bilk22
All that was said is that he is a regular customer. Nothing more, nothing less, but if he's a regular customer, and he regularly uses stolen identities (which is possible) why is this the first flight that has had something happen to it if it's related?
All that was said is that he is a regular customer. Nothing more, nothing less, but if he's a regular customer, and he regularly uses stolen identities (which is possible) why is this the first flight that has had something happen to it if it's related?
Well who knows what else has occurred due to their use by he and his associates?
Zaphod58
reply to post by Bilk22
All that was said is that he is a regular customer. Nothing more, nothing less, but if he's a regular customer, and he regularly uses stolen identities (which is possible) why is this the first flight that has had something happen to it if it's related?
I'm not even going to bother with the distances. Beijing, as the crow flies, is twice the distance of Guizhou, China, from where the flight originated from. Want to stick with the fuel issue?
edit on 84720Mondayk22 by Bilk22 because: (no reason given)
reply to post by Bilk22
I know where Beijing is in relation to Nanming, I've looked it up. But you keep pulling things out of the air. The plane was planned with a minimum of fuel, plus reserve. That was for a straight line course over Vietnam, into Beijing. Not for going all around the Gulf to get to China where no one would notice it.
So now, Vietnam allowed the plane to fly over them, with a foreign countries fighters escorting it (yeah right), and is expending millions of dollars in fuel in a futile search. Do you not see how this is getting more and more outrageous?
I know where Beijing is in relation to Nanming, I've looked it up. But you keep pulling things out of the air. The plane was planned with a minimum of fuel, plus reserve. That was for a straight line course over Vietnam, into Beijing. Not for going all around the Gulf to get to China where no one would notice it.
So now, Vietnam allowed the plane to fly over them, with a foreign countries fighters escorting it (yeah right), and is expending millions of dollars in fuel in a futile search. Do you not see how this is getting more and more outrageous?
reply to post by CharlieSpeirs
Thank you, Charlie, very kind!
(Still trying to work out how to reply here.....lol)
Thank you, Charlie, very kind!
(Still trying to work out how to reply here.....lol)
reply to post by da pickles
They've been searching a roughly 80 square mile area until now, and according to the article it's going up to 100. Which is probably why they haven't found it yet.
They've been searching a roughly 80 square mile area until now, and according to the article it's going up to 100. Which is probably why they haven't found it yet.
Beijing is more than 1000mi from Guizhou, China. Still want to stick with the fuel issue?
Zaphod58
reply to post by Bilk22
I know where Beijing is in relation to Nanming, I've looked it up. But you keep pulling things out of the air. The plane was planned with a minimum of fuel, plus reserve. That was for a straight line course over Vietnam, into Beijing. Not for going all around the Gulf to get to China where no one would notice it.
So now, Vietnam allowed the plane to fly over them, with a foreign countries fighters escorting it (yeah right), and is expending millions of dollars in fuel in a futile search. Do you not see how this is getting more and more outrageous?