Beijing-bound MAS plane carrying 239 people missing as of 20 mins ago.

AlanQaida
reply to post by research100

 

interesting read, to clarify my initial post, I work in operations at an airport and my direct supervisors are ARO's, and a couple are pilots, who are confident that slick is coral spawn.

now if the phones are ringing why hasn't the government traced the phones?

Could very well be coral spawning. Coral napauli exhibit bioluminescence. So if that pic was taken in low light, it would appear that way.

I don't think they have reason to trace the phones. I think they know exactly where they are.

reply to post by Bilk22


I think you're right, 239 passengers, at least 100 would have smart phones, iphones etc, if the gov can snoop on the average joe at anytime, I'm sure they know where they are!

ETA: basing the last part in regards to the chinese guy who has been calling his brother and getting no answer etc.

camaro68ss
Whatever happend, it happend fast! It happend so fast that all power to the plan was Interrupted immediately resulting in no SOS or distress call. This leads to two out comes, one, it brock up in midair instantaneously on a clear and calm day, doubt it. Two, it blew up by either a bomb in the forward cargo hold below the pilots, hence the no distress call, or was shot down and hit from the front.

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That's 3 things !!

reply to post by rockflier


I figured they probably were, because Boeing isn't big on change for changes sake.

reply to post by Ivar_Karlsen


I've noticed Boeing likes to do that.

AlanQaida
reply to post by Bilk22

 

I think you're right, 239 passengers, at least 100 would have smart phones, iphones etc, if the gov can snoop on the average joe at anytime, I'm sure they know where they are!

ETA: basing the last part in regards to the chinese guy who has been calling his brother and getting no answer etc.

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At this point, there's more reason to believe the plane is still intact and on the ground than the other theories of what might have happened, especially in light of the initial reports it was on the ground in China and had been escorted there by Chinese fighters.

Battlefresh
I might as well throw out my crazy theory.

Terrorists hijacked the plane, possibly by an explosive on the pilot cabin door, giving them no time for a distress call. They then immediately dropped in altitude until they were below the radar operating line, flew to a remote airfield that had been prepared. The passengers are all being held hostage somewhere. The plane is being prepared to be used as either a missile, or as a bomb delivery device. The terrorists will make a public announcement once everything is in place.

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I wouldn't discount this scenario. It sounds just as plausible, if not more, than some other theories on here.

This might have been already stated as I haven't read every one of the 54 pages, but if it disintegrated in mid-air, wouldn't at least one shred of clothing or a paper cup with the airline insignia been found floating by now?

reply to post by Bilk22


Chinese e-war to prevent outbound comms from the plane?

The phone carriers should be able to know if the phones are actually working on the cellar system. If they were it should be big news and being used in this investigation. Doesn't seem to be happening.

UnBreakable

Battlefresh
I might as well throw out my crazy theory.

Terrorists hijacked the plane, possibly by an explosive on the pilot cabin door, giving them no time for a distress call. They then immediately dropped in altitude until they were below the radar operating line, flew to a remote airfield that had been prepared. The passengers are all being held hostage somewhere. The plane is being prepared to be used as either a missile, or as a bomb delivery device. The terrorists will make a public announcement once everything is in place.

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I wouldn't discount this scenario. It sounds just as plausible, if not more, than some other theories on here.

Hopefully they save as much fuel as possible. Can't go to the corner station and get some jet fuel.

Now if some event with missing fuel happens, this gets moved up a notch with me.

(Don't the powers keep a watchful eye on that type of fuel?)

AlanQaida
reply to post by Bilk22

 

Chinese e-war to prevent outbound comms from the plane?

Well they head off the attack in Beijing and possibly take custody of members of the organization that can give them more information. It's likely the guys on the flight were not armed but would have been so once they reached Beijing. I guess there's a myriad of possibilities. However I'm holding out hope my theory is correct for the sake of the innocent people onboard. The outcome would be much better.

The stolen passports are irrelevant right now. Those guys could've been drug runners or something. Not necessarily terrorists. And I have a sneaking suspicion that people board planes with bogus passports quite often in that area...

Regardless it doesn't get us closer to what happened to that flight. Nothing adds up at all. I'm finding it hard to understand how not one piece of wreckage or anything to do with the plane has been found. Surely if it had been blown to pieces in the sky or once it hit the ocean there would be something floating around. Plus can anyone say how far from land this happened? An explosion at 35000 ft could be seen from quite a distance if weather was clear. But no eye witnesses

If it just disappeared from radar my leading theory is electrical failure. But it brings us back to a plane dropping out of the air and smashing into thousands of pieces on impact. But no pieces seem to exist. (Yet)

Was it making a u turn right before impact. If so then that could indicate a possible terror threat- (aren't the cockpit doors locked?) or some sort of mechanical issue. But wouldn't there have been time for a mayday?

3 days and absolutely no sign of this plane. It's very strange

PhotonEffect
The stolen passports are irrelevant right now. Those guys could've been drug runners or something. Not necessarily terrorists. And I have a sneaking suspicion that people board planes with bogus passports quite often in that area...

Regardless it doesn't get us closer to what happened to that flight. Nothing adds up at all. I'm finding it hard to understand how not one piece of wreckage or anything to do with the plane has been found. Surely if it had been blown to pieces in the sky or once it hit the ocean there would be something floating around. Plus can anyone say how far from land this happened? An explosion at 35000 ft could be seen from quite a distance if weather was clear. But no eye witnesses

If it just disappeared from radar my leading theory is electrical failure. But it brings us back to a plane dropping out of the air and smashing into thousands of pieces on impact. But no pieces seem to exist. (Yet)

Was it making a u turn right before impact. If so then that could indicate a possible terror threat- (aren't the cockpit doors locked?) or some sort of mechanical issue. But wouldn't there have been time for a mayday?

3 days and absolutely no sign of this plane. It's very strange

The use of stolen passports, sold by an airline that allegedly received a threat of terrorism, is irrelevant? Really? It's pretty much the only information we can believe at this point is known to be true.

Guess it's too early for more on the report of debris late in the afternoon south of Ho Chi Minh City. If the article time was correct it was 6 hours ago.

and now we have the to be expected China whining over Malaysia's mishandling of everything.

China's state-run media on Monday lashed out at Malaysia and its national carrier over their handling of the missing passenger jet, calling for a swifter response effort and tightened airport security. Chinese President Xi Jinping and US President Barack Obama meanwhile spoke by telephone Monday, with Obama offering his sympathy and saying the US was willing to work "comprehensively" with China on the rescue effort, Beijing's foreign ministry said. Nearly two-thirds of the 239 people aboard Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight MH370 were from China, and if the loss of the aircraft is confirmed, it would be China's second-worst air disaster in history. Investigations have been launched into suspect passengers after officials said two Europeans whose names were on the passenger manifest -- who both had their passports stolen in Thailand -- were not on board. "The Malaysian side cannot shirk its responsibilities," the Global Times newspaper, which is close to the ruling Chinese Communist Party, wrote in a scathing editorial. "The initial response from Malaysia was not swift enough. "There are loopholes in the work of Malaysia Airlines and security authorities," it said. "If it is due to a deadly mechanical breakdown or pilot error, then Malaysia Airlines should take the blame. If this is a terrorist attack, then the security check at the Kuala Lumpur airport and on the flight is questionable." Terrorism fears The China Daily newspaper wrote in an editorial that "terrorism cannot be ruled out", with Malaysian and international authorities still at a loss to explain how at least two passengers were able to board with stolen Italian and Austrian passports. "Who were they and why were they using false passports?" the paper asked. "The fact that some of the passengers on board were traveling with false passports should serve as a reminder to the whole world that security can never be too tight, at airports in particular, since terrorism, the evil of the world, is still trying to stain human civilization with the blood of innocent lives," it added. Read more: www.businessinsider.com...

oh and it looks like we can expect even more scrutiny and security BS for flying thanks to this incident. which of course just adds in a "false flag" angle to the possibilities. wonder if we will have to now arrive 8 hours or more for a flight so we can all be checked out in all the data bases like FBI, CIA, INTERPOL, NBI, MI5, MI6, etc, etc. do i hear a call of "more secure" passports, possibly DNA scans and such in order to fly?

CNN critical of the search....

Ashley Banfield and some other talking heads were just on live and very critical of the search teams. A few experts agreed it shouldn't be taking this long to find the plane, that search teams have to get it together, double their efforts and devise a better plan.

I've been saying you can't compare this to the Air France crash----because it was a much different geographic location (remote, deep, stormy, far, far away from any land mass, etc.)

"People just seemed to vanish?" Ashley asked.

10 countries searching and no progress?

Expert: They should have a better idea of where that plane is! The searches keep changing search in areas that are contradictory to the information... Seem like they don't know what they're doing...

Expert---Very safe aircraft... why are they having so much difficulty narrowing the search field down...they shouldn't be.

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its been mentioned here in oz that we need the "chipped" bio passports, some politician was peddling it yesterday. any angle to push an agenda eh.

Cnn anchors and talking heads - Yeah, they are well versed in search and rescue. They are whining because the big story isn't moving fast enough for their commercial TV business.

So cbs reported this morning, apparently the oil in the ocean did not belong to the jet, and the debris they thought they found, was just trash that also probably was not related.

This is getting a little scary now, would think they would have found something by now.

MRuss
CNN critical of the search....

Ashley Banfield and some other talking heads were just on live and very critical of the search teams. A few experts agreed it shouldn't be taking this long to find the plane, that search teams have to get it together, double their efforts and devise a better plan.

I've been saying you can't compare this to the Air France crash----because it was a much different geographic location (remote, deep, stormy, far, far away from any land mass, etc.)

"People just seemed to vanish?" Ashley asked.

10 countries searching and no progress?

Expert: They should have a better idea of where that plane is! The searches keep changing search in areas that are contradictory to the information... Seem like they don't know what they're doing...

Expert---Very safe aircraft... why are they having so much difficulty narrowing the search field down...they shouldn't be.

This sounds like a concerted misdirect by the MSM. Are they better tacticians in orchestrating a search and rescue than the pros?

The cellphones is the tell all. If they didn't get destroyed by some catastrophe then the saltwater certainly would have finished them off. The fact they're still ringing, until their batteries are spent, is confirmation enough for me there's something else going on here. I'm sticking with the idea they were escorted as reported and something is in the works in China.