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reply to post by lestweforget
Two stolen passport holders were "iranian refugees" (official story)
two checked in didn't board... the stories about checked in didn't board passengers have proved false... apparently.
Diego Garcia is still an idea being tossed up around here.
I had bought this up in another thread though it could be relevant. Could this not be an unfortunate though co-incidental accident? Or really what I am saying is does anyone know the financial standing of Malaysian Airlines(MAS) , could they be going under? As alluded to on this thread there have been some issues with emergency landings with MAS aircraft, could these be maintenance related?
I do know from observations that if a transport company is going under it is usually maintenance and servicing that are skimped. MAS apparently had the aircraft in for a minor overhaul, perhaps a component that needed to be replaced was not as the worker was told by his team leader, we don't have the budget for that, component was not replaced or exchanged with another faulty unit, signed off on the paper work to confirm its airworthiness, thus forging documents.
Aircraft mechanic keeps his mouth shut as its his bread and butter, he has commitments a family to support, perhaps his teamleader threatened him with job loss, mechanic knows that aircraft engineer jobs are few and far between, keeps his mouth shut.
I know that there are so many theories though it could be something so simple.
The pilot of the Egyptair 888 that caught fire in Cairo doesn't seem to think the same kind of fire is likely:
reply to post by sy.gunson
it the computer or an the control wiring controlling the auto pilot is in cockpit then no way would the plane continue on in autopilot the plane with no control system would become immediately unstable and 5 minutes later be in ocean. I don't buy fire in cockpit.
However, I think it's important to note that the oxygen content on the ground is much higher than at 35,000 feet. If the fire was fed by the pilot's emergency oxygen supply, this is a limited supply, which could have burned some circuits like communication, then depleted before burning out others, like autopilot. So while I agree if the fire at 35,000 feet was the same as the fire on the ground, you and the pilot are right that the plane wouldn't continue flying for long, I can't agree that is definitely the kind of fire that would be experienced at 35,000 feet.
However Shaheer Magdy Abdel Sayyed, the pilot on the Egyptair flight where the fire took place, saw significant differences between the two incidents.
The problem happened with my aircraft at the ground. If the same problem happened while the plane flying it will not last for too long before it fall.''
"It was very fortunate for me and for the passengers and the crew that it was in the ground but if it happened while the plane flying there will not be any flying, the plane will not fly all that distance and will fall immediately in its location"
I'm not saying it was a fire, only that I'm not ready to rule it out. I'm still hoping they will find the black boxes which may help explain what happened.
edit on 25-3-2014 by Arbitrageur because: clarification
Did you read the headline, or the article? Your comment makes it sound like you read the headline. The article says this:
I just read this on abc news:
Malaysia Airlines flight MH370: Authorities defend text message to families revealing missing plane's fate
so from that it appears they have notified the families via sms a text message
wow... what a compassionate way to be notified.
Many of the families were in Beijing and they called them to a meeting at a hotel there to announce it to them personally before the rest of the world. Apparently they tried to call others not in attendance but not everybody answered, and not everybody saw their text message before seeing it on the news. However it does seem like the airlines took steps to notify as many people as they could, and the text message was just one method. Yes it's impersonal but still better than seeing it on the news for the first time, which still happened to some people.
"Wherever humanly possible, we did so in person with the families or by telephone, using SMS only as an additional means of ensuring fully that the nearly 1,000 family members heard the news from us and not from the media."
So if they tried to phone them and couldn't reach them, I'm not sure what they should have done differently. On something this high profile they can't really delay the announcement for days until they reach every last family member, can they?edit on 25-3-2014 by Arbitrageur because: clarification
Right they get a lot of info on passengers, but for next of kin all they've ever asked me for is a phone number.
Not really sure how it is on that side of the pond, but here, in order to even book a flight ticket, you have to give them two ounces of blood, three poop samples, all of your personal information, address, passport, and emergency contact information.
Surely, if they were not trying to be evasive, they'd have gotten a few of their management personnel up off their arses and directly to these addresses to notify the next of kin.
lestweforget: Lack of disclosure re: cargo concerns me. I would think international security/relations would take precedent to a police investigation. But that's just me. The two SEAL officers on the seychelles, I am yet to see a credible source for it.
RP2: I am with you, but could you refrain from saying Paky? It's offensive. Pakistani would suffice.
robsmith: (I love the cure). From my understanding Malaysian Airways were struggling due to increased costs, cheaper competition and global slowdown in airtravel from the GFC but were still at least making a profit.