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Beijing-bound MAS plane carrying 239 people missing as of 20 mins ago.

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posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 07:29 PM
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The debris that would be floating is the light debris. Winds at 35,000 feet are so strong they could throw it far from the crash scene.

Air France 447 was missing for days before they found the debris field.




posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 07:32 PM
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If they broke apart at altitude the light debris can be far from the impact site. I've had pilots report winds in excess of 150 knots.



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 07:32 PM
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raedar
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I see someone embedded it for us, but for future reference, as it took me a while to figure out- you copy everything past the = sign in the web address, not the "share this video".


I can't figure out how to get a web address from youtube on a useless iPad. Doesn't matter. Just wanted to try and help you for future ATS endeavors!


Oh OK, thanks! I will do better next time!



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 07:34 PM
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Phoenix, don't get confused with the legendary phoenix bird.

Terminal velocity of a falling body is @125 miles per hour
or about 55mps,
or about 180 fps.

Given that, the debris would be as intact and recognizable as
dropping a plate from the top of a diving board
to the bottom of an empty swimming pool.

or a television from the top of a three story building



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 07:37 PM
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raedar
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But did you see in your playback the plane nearby to the East that changed direction, disappeared from radar, came back and sped of about 3x faster? That's the weird part I'm curious about.


It's possible that it is to a problem with the stored data. No saying that is the reason though.



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 07:38 PM
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as soon as the component of lift is stopped ALL
objects begin accelerating towards the center of the earth at 32fps/s.

The objects will not remain in the jet stream for long at that velocity.

it is not like the objects stay in the jet stream and
sometime in the future decide to fall miles away from the
scene of the tragedy.



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 07:41 PM
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I didn't say they did, now did I. But even if it takes 10 seconds to clear the jetstream, at 150 knots they're still going to go pretty far. They're going to be affected by wind all the way down too.
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posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 07:42 PM
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spirited75
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as soon as the component of lift is stopped ALL
objects begin accelerating towards the center of the earth at 32fps/s.

The objects will not remain in the jet stream for long at that velocity.

it is not like the objects stay in the jet stream and
sometime in the future decide to fall miles away from the
scene of the tragedy.



But wouldn't some lateral motion be added to the trajectory by the original wind force.
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posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 07:49 PM
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It's obviously very likely that, ASSUMING A MID-AIR BREAK UP in, say, 30.000 ft etc, lighter pieces would easily be found miles away from the location of the explosion or the location where the rest of the plane might later be found. Seriously, a lot of nonsense here in the thread from planes which would entirely disintegrate with no debris on the water (NEVER happened in the past) to pieces which would fall "straight down" through 10.000, 20.000, 30.000 ft w/ strong winds...nothing of that makes any sense.

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posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 08:00 PM
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I have a question. I haven't been following this today. There has been a lot of talk about the two stolen passports. Some are jumping to the conclusion that these 2 people could have something to do with the crash.

Whats the update on this if there is any?



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 08:01 PM
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The stolen passports are significant.

The fact that they were used to buy tickets is troubling at best, and sinister at worst.

Airlines at altitude don't just break up very often, something caused it.

No maday calls from the flight crew says that is was a rapid breakup event.

Structural failure from fatigue is very unlikely in a 777, something else caused it.



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 08:03 PM
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Could i trouble somebody to repost the live CNN International feed link? Thanks



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 08:13 PM
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150 mph is 225 feet per second times ten seconds
is 2,250 feet or about 1/2 mile
so no not displaced very far from the debris field.

make it into a word problem and it is easier to solve.



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 08:17 PM
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This link has the FBI now getting involved. Hmmmmm....

www.latimes.com...
The Homeland Security source said that the passport stolen from an Italian was taken from his rental car when he returned the vehicle in August in Malaysia*.....
Another US law enforcement official said Interpol keeps a registry of lost and stolen passports that major international airlines routinely check before passengers board a flight. It would be unusual for a passenger on a major airline such as Malaysian Airways to be able to board using a stolen passport, he said.

*not Thailand, as reported earlier
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posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 08:19 PM
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And what, once it clears the jetstream it just falls straight down? It's being affected by wind all the way down. Not as strong but still pushed by the wind.



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 08:21 PM
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So any momentum added from the sideways motion just goes away after the source of that motion is no longer there? Think about dropping a ball off a building along it's side versus throwing it off away from the building.



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 08:21 PM
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There was apparently a Japanese Fireball Meteor event at 1.14am Japan Standard Time 08 March 2014.

The plane left Kuala Lumpur at 12.41am local time on 08 March, then lost contact 2 hours later, 2.41 am local time.

Could it have been an asteroid fragment? Kind of reminds me of this story, back in 2009 about flight 447:


www.sott.net...



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 08:21 PM
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starviego
This link has the FBI now getting involved. Hmmmmm....


Which is pretty common any time Americans die abroad in scenarios like this.



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 08:22 PM
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there was no jet stream in the equation of this plane.
winds aloft were 15 knots from the south east.



posted on Mar, 8 2014 @ 08:25 PM
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Wow, I was just trying to post this:

There was apparently a Japanese Fireball Meteor 1.14am Japan Standard Time 08 March 2014.

The plane left Kuala Lumpur at 12.41am local time on 08 March, then lost contact 2 hours later, 2.41 am local time.

I tried to link to an article about flight 447 (France) that went down in 2009. Anyway, there do seem to be some similarities. Could it have been an asteroid strike?



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