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Beijing-bound MAS plane carrying 239 people missing as of 20 mins ago.

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posted on Mar, 16 2014 @ 04:21 AM
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In regards to MH370 landing in Australia via North Western Australia etc:


I doubt it would have come here undetected, even if sparsely populated. You see, the federal government has this morbid fear about "illegals" landing on our shores and so there's are many naval/air force patrols at our borders (both land and sea/territorial borders)
Unless it had something to do with USA and the need for the USA to escort plane to US base in the top end, as per ANZUS treaty and agreements.... looking at our 'beloved' Prime Minister and his government having any knowledge of the plane coming here is almost like the 3 stooges comment a few pages back. I mean, seriously, fair shake of the sauce bottle.




posted on Mar, 16 2014 @ 04:21 AM
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For a terrorist act carried out by 'Muslims', it is illogical to use an airline of a fellow Muslim country for this attack, as despite the large number of Chinese nationals on the passenger list, it is nevertheless a Malaysian aircraft and the attack will rather be seen as directed towards Malaysia than China. A Chinese aircraft would have been targeted instead. Also, criminals in the past have tended to proudly and quickly claim responsibility for such an attack; as far as I know such word is still not out on this accident.



posted on Mar, 16 2014 @ 04:32 AM
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Inmarsat statement on Malaysia Airlines flight MH370
14 March 2014: Inmarsat has issued the following statement regarding Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.

Routine, automated signals were registered on the Inmarsat network from Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 during its flight from Kuala Lumpur.

This information was provided to our partner SITA, which in turn has shared it with Malaysia Airlines.

For further information, please contact Malaysia Airlines.

www.malaysiaairlines.com...


Source: Inmarsat Website



"Routine, Automated Signals" From Missing Malaysia 777 Were Received By Satellite Network—Inmarsat Signals Detected During Missing Flight From Kuala Lumpur to Beijing—Inmarsat


The Wall Street Journal

So is that still just conjecture or is it a fact that a satellite continued to read the pings? The same article from WSJ (who have reported falsities about this story but at this point who hasn't?) also stated that it "transmitted pings for at least 5 hours after vanishing" but that was reported by "sources" so I will say that is still rumor.

I am just asking in case I missed something and this is not a fact as I had thought and read from reliable sources such as the Inmarsat website.
edit on 3/16/2014 by ThePawnsTheory because: Added info



posted on Mar, 16 2014 @ 04:36 AM
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Boeing777
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For a terrorist act carried out by 'Muslims', it is illogical to use an airline of a fellow Muslim country for this attack, as despite the large number of Chinese nationals on the passenger list, it is nevertheless a Malaysian aircraft and the attack will rather be seen as directed towards Malaysia than China. A Chinese aircraft would have been targeted instead. Also, criminals in the past have tended to proudly and quickly claim responsibility for such an attack; as far as I know such word is still not out on this accident.
Uighur separatists’ claim over missing flight MH370 may be re-examined



posted on Mar, 16 2014 @ 04:43 AM
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So China already has admitted it landed in their sphere of influence. Is this the same technologically highly advanced terrorist group that attacked with knifes and mazes last time, they hit?



posted on Mar, 16 2014 @ 04:49 AM
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I know people have asked a lot what passenger could be on the plane that is not listed that May be important. It has been itching at the back of my head. Could it possibly be the copilot? Seems I have read a few times his father is connected with the higher ups? Could be why he is easily overlooked when looking for important unnamed passengers. He could possibly be considered important cargo in a sense.
We have any idea exactly what his father does?



posted on Mar, 16 2014 @ 04:53 AM
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I know this might be as far fetched as the other theories out there. We have just had the f1 grand prix in Melbourne, as part of the hoopla, Qantas usually fly over a large commercial aircraft at low altitude during the openinge. What if the people whom stole the 777 or hi jackers etc perform the same at the Malaysian grand prix and deliberately crash the aircraft is loaded with chemical weapons, a dirty bomb, or a operational atomic weapon.

The grand prix attracts an audience in the billions, and it may be just the show these people need to demonstrate no one or place is safe.



posted on Mar, 16 2014 @ 05:03 AM
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At this point anything is possible, but I wouldnt put this thought to high on the scale. I think there is really only a few categories here. It was done for theft,(someone wanted something on that plane), Someone or group is striking out at China, or suicide.
I dont think anyone is really mad at Australia to my knowledge are they?

This isnt to say there arent a lot of other scenarios that are in play, I just personally think it will probably fall into one of the above groups. I also think suicide is the lowest on the list.

Still, I guess we will know soon if your thought pans out, but I sure hope not.



posted on Mar, 16 2014 @ 05:13 AM
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ThePawnsTheory
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So is that still just conjecture or is it a fact that a satellite continued to read the pings? The same article from WSJ (who have reported falsities about this story but at this point who hasn't?) also stated that it "transmitted pings for at least 5 hours after vanishing" but that was reported by "sources" so I will say that is still rumor.

I am just asking in case I missed something and this is not a fact as I had thought and read from reliable sources such as the Inmarsat website.
edit on 3/16/2014 by ThePawnsTheory because: Added info


The Malaysian PM said in his statement yesterday the satellite pings confirmed that mh370 went on for more than 5 hours.

There is another press conference just about to start but it looks like they will be asking for help rather than any further breakthrough information.



posted on Mar, 16 2014 @ 05:14 AM
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Though its all conjecture we can all only speculate. I do hope that the aircraft is found soon as all the families involved need closure. my heart does go out to the families as they have had to suffer the burden of the mis/disinformation not knowing where their loved ones are.

We have all lost someone in our lives though at least we had closure.



posted on Mar, 16 2014 @ 05:15 AM
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I don't know if this one has been posted.. But I have just came across this article from two days ago, which isn't directly about flight MH370 but it has a lot of information about the Uighurs and their possible intentions. The part I find most interesting is where it states Uighur leaders are currently living on the Pakistan-Afghanistan border and are ready for retribution against China.


(Reuters) - Entrenched in secret mountain bases on Pakistan's border with Afghanistan, Uighur fighters are gearing up for retribution against China to avenge the deaths of comrades in Beijing's crackdown on a separatist movement, their leader told Reuters.


Assuming the bases are to the north of the two countries, this would fall within the possible north western route which was announced by officials.

From his Pakistan hideout, Uighur leader vows revenge on China



posted on Mar, 16 2014 @ 05:31 AM
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From the latest Press conference 10 am GMT.

It seems the Malaysians are implying certain countries are with holding information that could help. It doesn't look like there will be any developments soon with them saying the search area is too big.


9.22pm AEST One last line from the press conference: investigators are still waiting for some countries to send background checks on the passengers. “There are still a few countries yet to respond to our requests,” the country’s police chief, Khalid Abu Bakar told a news conference.


. Updated at 9.22pm AEST 9.10pm AEST The last statement in the conference is revealing. The acting transport minister parties asks other countries to “come forward” with other information - most likely intelligence satellite and radar data - to help ”narrow the search area” which is far too massive for any kind of detailed search .

9.05pm AEST Key event There is more information coming in from the press conference during the Q&A: one of the transponder systems was switched off before the last communication from the pilot and his message , “All right, good night”. Updated at 9.17pm AEST 8.57pm AEST

AEST Press conference The formal statement by the transport minister is over let’s have a summary of what was said: • More than 20 countries have now been briefed after the search area for the plane was widened to two corridors in the last few days. These include countries as far apart as Kazakhstan and Indonesia.
• Malaysian authorities have requested support from those countries. This includes satellite and primary radar data and requesting deployment of sea search assets.
• Discussions are underway as to how to best deploy those assets and interestingly, the northern search corridor - from Malaysia towards central Asia - and the southern corridor - from Malaysia towards the Indian Ocean - are being given equal importance in terms of search capabilities. Currently more ships are needed for the southern corridor.
• The government is also asking China, US and France to provide further satellite data. • The investigation is refocusing on the backgrounds of the passengers, pilots and even ground staff. The families of the pilot and co-pilot have been interviewed. We were told that they did not ask to fly together on this flight.
• Police are examining a flight simulator belonging to one of the pilots of the missing jetliner.

Updated at 9.02pm AEST 8.38pm AEST At the press conference in Kuala Lumpur, Hussein said that the police were looking at the pilot’s home flight simulator and had just searched the home of the co-pilot. He said that the pilot and co-pilot did not request to fly together.



posted on Mar, 16 2014 @ 05:33 AM
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What if the Malaysian government has been in negotiation with the hijackers all this time , and they couldn't say so because it would've put the passengers in danger .



posted on Mar, 16 2014 @ 05:41 AM
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Monte-Carlo
What if the Malaysian government has been in negotiation with the hijackers all this time , and they couldn't say so because it would've put the passengers in danger .


Most hijackers want the world to know what they're doing, it puts pressure on the government they are putting demands on.
If this is hijacking, why no public demands or claims of responsibility?



posted on Mar, 16 2014 @ 05:58 AM
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Cheers for that latest conference update mate!

Trying my absolute hardest not to read between the lines with it, but this website encourages my tin foil hat fashion accessory :S



posted on Mar, 16 2014 @ 06:00 AM
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After reading what Uri Geller said [url=http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/malaysian-airlines-flight-mh370-uri-geller-uses-psychic-powers-determine-fate-flight-1440395]
i ended up where radar lost contact and it seems to have turned around.
Cockpit fire disabled the transponder and all of the communication systems.
The pilot is good we know that for a fact with 18000 hours flying, and on top of that he do flight simulator as hobby.
My guess is that he have trained on emergency landing on water so he do this perfect like it was done on Hudson river.
Sadly the smoke from the fire killed the passengers because oxygen masks did not work other than in the cockpit.
It floated on the water for hours sending some rubbish engine data but finally without a trace just sank to the bottom close to the Malaysian shore.

It is just too many days gone and i am fed up of clinging to straws.



posted on Mar, 16 2014 @ 06:21 AM
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auroraaus
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Cheers for that latest conference update mate!

Trying my absolute hardest not to read between the lines with it, but this website encourages my tin foil hat fashion accessory :S


I know what you mean, I have been trying from the start to go what is definitely known, ie. the plane lost contact and is missing!. It could still be an accident, or pilot suicide or possibly a hijack,

however the Malaysians today asking other countries to 'COME FORWARD' concerns me!

realistically either these other countries want to hide their military secrets...or they want to hide what happened to MH370. It's odd that Malaysia is asking China for more co-operation but China has started to publicly criticise the Malaysians and were apparently outraged that the Malaysians suggested that the plane could have gone over their territory! Shouldn't they just provide the proof that it didn't?

www.theguardian.com...




The government is also asking China, US and France to provide further satellite data.





Beijing has resorted to taking the unusual step of publicly haranguing Malaysia’s government - a sign that whatever pressure it is applying in private is failing to produce results.
After Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said on Saturday that the Boeing 777 might have flown beyond the current search area, Beijing reacted with fury, a sign that the announcement took it by surprise.
A deputy Chinese foreign minister demanded “more thorough and accurate information” about the new search area.
A stinging commentary by China’s official Xinhua News Agency accused Malaysia and the United States of dragging their feet, adding that the former “bears inescapable responsibility”


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posted on Mar, 16 2014 @ 06:25 AM
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That last bit about China haranguing Malaysia for info... I was wondering actually, are there still some sort of tensions with Chinese-Malay Malaysians and Malaysian populations sort of like the Chinese-Indonesians and their social positions in Indonesia?



posted on Mar, 16 2014 @ 06:38 AM
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Some news snippets coming in:


Nations involved in search from 14 to 25

Malaysia said today the number of countries involved in efforts to find a missing passenger jet had nearly doubled to 25 as it began a new push to find the plane across a vast arc of land and ocean


Pilot allegedly attended sodomy trial before flight

Shah is believed to have attended a controversial trial where Ibrahim was jailed for five years for sodomy, after his acquittal for the same charge was overturned.


Meanwhile, Malay Opp. Party -



"If there is any concrete data backing up an allegation, we will respond to it. If anyone aboard (the flight) chose to attend the Anwar trial that is their right as it was in open court," he told English newspaper the Malaysian Star.

Asked if Zaharie Ahmad was often seen at functions organised by PKR or the opposition alliance Pakatan Rakyat (People's Alliance), he said he didn't not know Ahmad personally.

"I did not know who he was until the news broke out about the plane last Saturday," said Fahmi.
PKR vice president N. Surendran said there "is not a drop of evidence to support such speculation".
"Let us be fair to the missing captain as well -- he cannot answer for himself," he said.

No Link with missing jet capt. - Malay Opp.



posted on Mar, 16 2014 @ 06:40 AM
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I don't know really, I imagine tensions still exist. I really thought it was a case of China 'doth protest too much' when I read about them criticising the Malaysian search.

They provided misleading pictures of a crash and seemingly haven't provided all their radar hmmmm! Their citizens are getting angry so the government blame the Malaysians.



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