US Army Vet cuts down Mexican Flag flying over American Flag

stargatetravels
reply to post by iRoyalty

 

Except the criminal vet is the only one saying that he was asked loads to take it down.
Should we just take his word?

Several sources said he was warned many times.

Should we not take his word for it?

reply to post by whyamIhere

If the United States Flag Code only establishes advisory rules then it doesn't matter how many times he was "warned".

reply to post by stargatetravels


The criminal is the jerk flying the Mexican flag over the US flag, even after people complained.

Flying the Mexican flag over the US flag is against the law.

Property used while committing a crime is forfeited.

He lost his property rights to the flag when he used it in committing a crime.

The American citizen exercised his right of citizen arrest, and confiscated the flag being used in a criminal manner.

daskakik
reply to post by whyamIhere

 

If the United States Flag Code only establishes advisory rules then it doesn't matter how many times he was "warned".

Yes, I never said it was punishable.

Yes, I know the property crime is punishable.

I said "I thought it was awesome"....not legal.

reply to post by poet1b

But it isn't a crime.

Everything after that is null and void.

reply to post by whyamIhere

I wasn't the one taking you to task for your comment.

reply to post by poet1b


Seeing you can wipe your arse with Stars and stripe bog roll, it isn't illegal.
Can you show me any evidence that anyone has been charged by flying the flag the wrong way?
I thought it was understood it was etiquette not actual law.

boymonkey74
reply to post by poet1b

 

Seeing you can wipe your arse with Stars and stripe bog roll, it isn't illegal.
Can you show me any evidence that anyone has been charged by flying the flag the wrong way?
I thought it was understood it was etiquette not actual law.

Now this is interesting...

The "Flag" amendment failed by one vote.

They tried to make it illegal to burn the Flag.

I personally don't want this law to pass. Burning the Flag is an act of protest.

I don't like it. But it should not be illegal.

Flag Amendment Wiki

reply to post by whyamIhere


Blimey It is like it is becoming a Holy book or something.
Sad to think If someone did burn it as a protest they may get lynched.
Who was the member who flew it upside down? I can't remember.

iRoyalty
And if you came to my country (England) and you decided to fly your american flag over my English one, then I came and cut your American one to shreds, what would you say to me? 'Oh OK fair play, I guess I am in your country...'

Yes.

There are rules for putting up flags. Be respectful and not obnoxious. Follow the law. If you can't follow the law and you think Mexico (or some other country) should fly on top .. then leave. Respect the laws of the country you are in.

reply to post by FlyersFan


Hello FlyersFan,

Prepare for incoming.

Patriotism seems very unpopular with many people.

I however, agree with you 100%

reply to post by FlyersFan

boymonkey74
reply to post by whyamIhere

 

Blimey It is like it is becoming a Holy book or something.
Sad to think If someone did burn it as a protest they may get lynched.
Who was the member who flew it upside down? I can't remember.

here it is.

HomerinNC Thread.

great thread i might add.

whyamIhere


Several sources said he was warned many times.

Should we not take his word for it?

Several sources, like?
I could say that multiple sources said the Mexican stated several times he was unaware of flag etiquette - but that would just be me saying it, much like you are.

Where are these sources?

He has every right to fly his flag how he wants in any order he wants, there is no law.
But the vet dealt with it badly, he broke the law.
There should be a conversation, not whipping out a knife and damaging then stealing someone's property.

Whatever little things you come up with are irrelevant, the only one actually in the wrong, committing crimes, is the vet.
He is a fascist.

reply to post by FlyersFan



There is no law, why can't you folks understand this point??

reply to post by stargatetravels

He is a fascist.

There is no law against it.

Isn't part of being Free learning to tolerate people and things we disagree with?

stargatetravels

whyamIhere


Several sources said he was warned many times.

Should we not take his word for it?

Several sources, like?
I could say that multiple sources said the Mexican stated several times he was unaware of flag etiquette - but that would just be me saying it, much like you are.

Where are these sources?

He has every right to fly his flag how he wants in any order he wants, there is no law.
But the vet dealt with it badly, he broke the law.
There should be a conversation, not whipping out a knife and damaging then stealing someone's property.

Whatever little things you come up with are irrelevant, the only one actually in the wrong, committing crimes, is the vet.
He is a fascist.

do you not see the epic fail of that post right there.

I could say that multiple sources said the Mexican stated several times he was unaware of flag etiquette

after the first time he would have been aware. if asked one time, and he said no. he would have known there was something wrong with what he was doing.

FlyersFan

iRoyalty
And if you came to my country (England) and you decided to fly your american flag over my English one, then I came and cut your American one to shreds, what would you say to me? 'Oh OK fair play, I guess I am in your country...'

Yes.

There are rules for putting up flags. Be respectful and not obnoxious. Follow the law. If you can't follow the law and you think Mexico (or some other country) should fly on top .. then leave. Respect the laws of the country you are in.

edit on 3/12/2014 by FlyersFan because: (no reason given)

The United States Flag Code establishes advisory rules for display and care of the flag of the United States. It is Chapter 1 of Title 4 of the United States Code (4 U.S.C. § 1 et seq). This is a U.S. federal law, but there is no penalty for failure to comply with it and the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that punitive enforcement would conflict with the First Amendment right to freedom of speech.[1]

There is NO penalty... it is an unenforceable law, ie, not a law.

stargatetravels
There is no law, why can't you folks understand this point??

Yes there is. It's just that the Supreme Court has ruled that there is no penalty for breaking it.

US Flag Code - Federal Law

The United States Flag Code establishes advisory rules for display and care of the flag of the United States. It is Chapter 1 of Title 4 of the United States Code (4 U.S.C. § 1 et seq). This is a U.S. federal law, but there is no penalty for failure to comply with it and the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that punitive enforcement would conflict with the First Amendment right to freedom of speech.[1]

It IS a law.
Is IS obnoxious and disrespectful to enter another country and break their laws.
To quote you, stargatetravels, ... 'Why can't you folks understand this point??'

reply to postbyhounddoghowlie



I meant post this incident, which is why I said 'stated' not 'he told people who asked him to take it down'