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A question, Has the west grown complacent to the potential threat of a Cyber attack by Russia and Ch

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posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 05:32 PM
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Recently following the defection of Edward Snowdon to the Russian Federation and the subsequent removal of computer equipment from Russian governmant building's it was assumed that this removal was to prevent electronic espianage of the type Mr Snowdon's revelations revealed by Western Intelligence and Corporate Entity's.

But what if this was merely a ruse by Russia before there Crimean escapade and indeed the prelude to an all out attack or Denial of service by there own cyber warfare operations against the west whom have become increasingly dependant upon there/OUR internet based communication's.

Could Crimea merely be a stage one or could it be a trigger for something which could cripply our economy's especially with the west threatening to do much the same to the Russian's.

The symptom's would at first be noticed only as a slow down but there are so many freeware programs developed either in part or entirerly in the Russian federation that there may be one hell of a load of sleeping malware awaiting a trigger which would then cause a cascade of denial of service and overload the ISP's,.

Is it happening NOW and have we been too stupid and blind complacent to see the threat which has lingered and grown under Alexander Putin's auspices for the past several year's.

Can we do anything to stop it as with the return to analogue and mechanical systems as well as the there supposedly outdated infrastructure (which is cyberproof) they are in a position of power while we have been bandying the largest achiles heel in history and bragging about it and by that I mean our almost total dependance on the internet.

A single Hacker can cause chaos but a state attack when they are immune to it and willing to allow there own internet to be attacked as they are ready to absorb that attack makes you wonder just a little, Then there is the fact modern post Soviet russia has built or modernised a underground facility with a rumoure 400+ square killometres of space under the Basalt and Granite Ural mountain's and this is only one such site we know of,.


So what has Putin and his former hardline Clique of soviet KGB patriot's been up to all these years and what exactly have they been planning and working toward's.


It May already be too late as we are as exposed as a fat cat lying belly up with a mangy wolf approaching.

gizmodo.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Also remember an enemy has the potential as has been seen by Mr Snowdon's disclosures to turn our own surveilance against us, the other recent thread talks about a large surveilance net over america, we already have one of the most extensive that would make the stasi jealous in the UK,

www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 05:55 PM
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I dont think that a cyber war is on the minds of most people because most people are worried about an actuall war causing deaths and destruction.

Americans would have nothing to worry about if they didnt do all this them selves. So in a sense the US government brought it apon them selves in my opinion.



posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 06:11 PM
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I remember hearing a few months back about how China has been hacking the states computers for awhile now and I am sure that it goes both ways as Obama hired thousands of hackers to work for the government.

This is what happens when you try to be an advanced technological society, It can all be taken down or used against you with a simple little virus or malware.

Didnt we learn anything from Battle Star Galactica???



posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 06:21 PM
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LOL, the "West" has not stopped the cold war they were engaged with 25 years ago... It is clear that the expanding empire of the west has continued a war on socialist countries which are not attached into the US dollar hegemony and the corrupt central banking system.



posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 06:32 PM
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Well as a working class guy myself I feel the sting in what the banking fat cat's and the corporation have done to the west since the end of the soviet period, They actually bouyed up those economy's which bordered the soviet union in order to keep them from going over to the soviet's but this of course meant they had hybrid capitalist socialist system's, the state would pay a pension, look after it's unemployed and subsidize industy and transport while own and supply the utilitys such as water, gas, electricity but after the end of the cold war these same fat cat's decided to put the people back down and started to sell of the state owned industrys and housing, the amenity's and utilitys and even the state pensions as the old greed and corruption resurfaced with a group of so called economists clapping themselves on the back at how clever they where, couple this with propeganda and state corporate owned media and you see were WE are over here.
The odd thing was that while the people of Russia suffered under the Soviet system, We had it good and once the soviet system collapsed the greedy elite whom had ALLOWED us to be happy then wanted to return us to the old slave labour economy were you work or die so earn only a very small amount for long hours and to change our system they promoted foreign workers taking the job's as they undercut the native work forces by accepting lower wages and working longer hours.
See this from my eye's but remember the American's did not do this, a Group of corrupt NWO cabalist occultist lying false faced powermongers did this to us in the west and they thought they had the east as well.
But remember weed's like these can be home grown in any nation or federation as well and Russia already has it's own but they are consolidating there own positions.
As it stand's though Russia is in the wrong, the pro european's in Ukrain are also in the wrong and there are Nazi sympathies in the Ukrain as any one with any knowledge of history would know so we have a situation which is tinder to the flame and god I hope it does not catch.

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posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 07:26 PM
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LABTECH767
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Well as a working class guy myself I feel the sting in what the banking fat cat's and the corporation have done to the west since the end of the soviet period, They actually bouyed up those economy's which bordered the soviet union in order to keep them from going over to the soviet's but this of course meant they had hybrid capitalist socialist system's, the state would pay a pension, look after it's unemployed and subsidize industy and transport while own and supply the utilitys such as water, gas, electricity but after the end of the cold war these same fat cat's decided to put the people back down and started to sell of the state owned industrys and housing, the amenity's and utilitys and even the state pensions as the old greed and corruption resurfaced with a group of so called economists clapping themselves on the back at how clever they where, couple this with propeganda and state corporate owned media and you see were WE are over here.
The odd thing was that while the people of Russia suffered under the Soviet system, We had it good and once the soviet system collapsed the greedy elite whom had ALLOWED us to be happy then wanted to return us to the old slave labour economy were you work or die so earn only a very small amount for long hours and to change our system they promoted foreign workers taking the job's as they undercut the native work forces by accepting lower wages and working longer hours.
See this from my eye's but remember the American's did not do this, a Group of corrupt NWO cabalist occultist lying false faced powermongers did this to us in the west and they thought they had the east as well.
But remember weed's like these can be home grown in any nation or federation as well and Russia already has it's own but they are consolidating there own positions.
As it stand's though Russia is in the wrong, the pro european's in Ukrain are also in the wrong and there are Nazi sympathies in the Ukrain as any one with any knowledge of history would know so we have a situation which is tinder to the flame and god I hope it does not catch.

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Yes I see what your getting at but you lost me when you said its the Nwo...

This is the part of my opinion that may not be Liked by alot of people but hear me out.

Lets revisit the Basics of the NWO..... It is a one world government correct? With one military/police force Correct? Ect ect....

Can you tell me what the difference between the Nwo and the UN, NAU and the EU? (minus ALL the religious stuff)

There really isnt any difference. That is what the NWO really is. It is all these unions coming together to form a one world order.
Now with that in mind, Russia, China, Iran ect are the true people fighting against the "NWO". That means that our governments are actually this invisible entity which is just as far fetched as God in my books.

Why not call things the way they actually are? We get no where when we continue to fool ourselves about the NWO. Just open your eyes and see that you are being missled. Dont get causght up in the Alex Jones bs. Everything is right out in the open just put the links together and you will see that there is truth in the words I have said.
There is a great group in the states that is working to change the way the government operates, its call Wolf-Pac, If your an American and actually want to fight the good fight against the NWO then join them, help them out any way you can.

Just remember not everything is always hidden, usually the best place to hide something is right out in the open.
You must see this from my point of view.



posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 10:00 PM
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Why would Russia and China need to attack us with cyber warfare? They can just refuse to stop holding our debt and collapse the US economy.

Or they can just let it collapse on its own, lol.

These stories come out every couple of years; sometimes its Iran, or Russia and Iran, or China or North Korea that's going to "cyber attack" us. The elites need a good cover story when the banks collapse and everyone's savings disappears-"It was those dirty Muslims/Neo-Commies/Boogie Men of the Week that took your money...with, um...cyber thingees. Not us!"



posted on Sep, 1 2015 @ 08:34 PM
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This thread has dated now but considering the information I have now had time to assimilate I think that most of our media in the west is biased and often downright propagandist, the BBC is a point in question as I have seen then nit pick in order to sway voters showing an extremely right wing political bias, supposedly a public service broadcaster it is growing increasingly apparent they are in fact serving corporate and private interests in there tailoring of story's and there now obviously biased coverage of so many political story's, national and international.

That born in mind I no longer trust our media and think that since this thread was heavily based in a mind set that at the time more or less did so that this thread is no longer relevant and it is worth noting I have now changed my opinion radically.



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