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posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 10:23 AM
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So, I just read a story (below) about a man who went to Vegas, got wasted (like most do in Vegas) and gambled away money (like most do in Vegas). The issue with this story here is that the man who is suing a Las Vegas casino suggests that he has zero recollection of gambling that money and taking out repeated markers (IOU's) at the table. This story annoys me a great amount because I'm admittingly a gambler, I enjoy the rush it gives me and I've always felt that money won always felt greater than money earned, but that's a whole other discussion in itself. Here with this story I feel like there could be a bad precedence set, call it a slippery slope, that if a person goes to Vegas and gambles away a small fortune that they can go out and say "I was blackout drunk, I don't remember doing this, you should have never allowed me to gamble".. blah blah blah, like this man is doing... I believe that if you are willing to drink recklessly, understand that there are possible consequences out there, i.e. losing all your money, getting a DUI, arrested, etc... But in all those other scenarios (not gambling related) you can never use the "I was too wasted to know what I was doing excuse", so why SHOULD or WOULD it be okay for that excuse to be used here with the man who lost $500k at the casino??? People are flying into Vegas every day to go gamble and drink, this is what the city was built on and to see some jaded loser try to sue to get his money back is beyond me...

Anyways, wanted to get other ATS members thoughts on this. Do you hold the man responsible? Do you hold the casino responsible? Do you hold both responsible? Should the man get his money back?



LAS VEGAS (AP) - A businessman who lost $500,000 on table games at a Las Vegas casino on Super Bowl weekend is arguing that he shouldn't have to pay because he was blackout drunk.
Southern California gambler Mark Johnston, 52, is suing the Downtown Grand for loaning him money and serving him drinks when he was visibly intoxicated.
Nevada law bars casinos from allowing obviously drunk patrons to gamble and from serving them comped drinks.
Johnston's attorney, Sean Lyttle, says the Grand, which opened last November in the old part of Las Vegas, intends to pursue Johnston for trying to shirk his gambling debts. Johnston put a stop-payment order on the markers, or casino credits, the Grand issued, and is also seeking damages from the Grand for sullying his name.
Johnston says he was thoroughly drunk during the hours he spent playing pai gow and blackjack at the Grand. His legal team plans to rely on eyewitness testimony and surveillance video to prove that he was visibly intoxicated.
Johnston lives in Ventura and made his fortune in car dealership and real estate ventures.
The Grand issued a statement saying it does not comment on pending litigation.
The state Gaming Control Board is investigating.
"It's certainly an extraordinary case. This is not a story that I've ever heard before, where someone was blackout intoxicated where they couldn't read their cards, and yet a casino continued to serve them drinks and issue them more markers," Lyttle said. "It's a very heavy-handed and unusual approach that we haven't seen in this town in a long time."
Johnston arrived in Las Vegas with the woman he was dating on the Thursday before the Super Bowl. He drank in the limousine from the Las Vegas airport to the Grand, drank more during dinner with friends, and then says he blacked out.
The suit alleges that the Grand comped him dozens of drinks while he gambled away hundreds of thousands of dollars, finally sleeping off his drunkenness on that Saturday, which was Feb, 1. Johnston says he didn't learn how much he had lost until the next day.


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posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 10:28 AM
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He should sue his parents for their contaminated gene pool. Suing over one's own dumbassery seems to be a trend lately. Sour grapes, hurt fee fees, and a lack of personal responsibility should now be treated in rehabilitation centers across the globe and it should be mandatory for people like this to spend at least 90 days there when they file wasteful lawsuits.

I think the judge will laugh him right out of the courtroom.

Imagine the folks that will claim the same thing when they lose their house because they had a "lucky feeling".
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posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 10:30 AM
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Kangaruex4Ewe
He should sue his parents for their contaminated gene pool. Suing over one's own dumbassery seems to be a trend lately. Sour grapes, hurt fee fees, and a lack of personal responsibility should now be taught in rehabilitation centers across the globe and it should be mandatory for people like this to spend at least 90 days there when they file wasteful lawsuits.

I think the judge will laugh him right out of the courtroom.


They would have to, right? Because if they granted him his money back this would open the state for a whole sh*tload of law suits from former guests of the city who drank too much and gambled away money



posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 10:34 AM
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jhn7537

Kangaruex4Ewe
He should sue his parents for their contaminated gene pool. Suing over one's own dumbassery seems to be a trend lately. Sour grapes, hurt fee fees, and a lack of personal responsibility should now be taught in rehabilitation centers across the globe and it should be mandatory for people like this to spend at least 90 days there when they file wasteful lawsuits.

I think the judge will laugh him right out of the courtroom.


They would have to, right? Because if they granted him his money back this would open the state for a whole sh*tload of law suits from former guests of the city who drank too much and gambled away money


Great minds think alike? I just edited that in before I saw this. It would indeed open the doors up for everyone to recoup their losses. After all.... as adults we know when we are plastered. It isn't up to the casino to know when someone has reached their limit and lost their ability to gamble responsibly. Who in the world wouldn't like to go and gamble without the threat of losing any money at all?



posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 10:35 AM
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I'm sooooo tired of people not taking responsibility for their own actions. Any one of his friends with him at dinner, could have told him he's crapfaced and to call it a night. I'm sure he would have listened to them...NOT.

I hope the judge see's this case for what it is...a sore looser who can't control himself, crying foul play. Throw this case out.

Des



posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 10:36 AM
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I'm curious how this guy will prove he in fact "blacked out", how would you prove that after the fact? Because say he was just intoxicated, would he have a case to take to the judge? Hell no... So how do you prove blackout drunk??? I'm really curious to see how this court case goes and how the case is argued



posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 10:39 AM
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So if he won a half million, would he feel the need to give it back to the casino? That would fit his logic.



posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 10:40 AM
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He has helped himself in filing this suit. He's made sure that he'll be banned from all the Vegas Casinos. No matter what the outcome of the case, he'll be added to the list of banned people from the top casinos. He'll not have to worry about getting drunk and making poor choices there anymore.

Des

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posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 10:41 AM
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Hoosierdaddy71
So if he won a half million, would he feel the need to give it back to the casino? That would fit his logic.


Exactly, does he give back money for being blackout drunk? Of course not...



posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 10:42 AM
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jhn7537
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I'm curious how this guy will prove he in fact "blacked out", how would you prove that after the fact? Because say he was just intoxicated, would he have a case to take to the judge? Hell no... So how do you prove blackout drunk??? I'm really curious to see how this court case goes and how the case is argued


I don't think he can prove it. I hate the "blackout" excuse period. I think it is way over used in many scenarios as a cop out for people who don't want to be responsible for their behavior. Since different people handle alcohol differently, and some can appear to be more drunk on less alcohol as others do on more.... it would be a dangerous precedent to set IMO.

Any sane person ASSumes they will lose some money when they go to Vegas. If that weren't normal... Vegas would have shut down long ago. Any sane person also knows that your senses aren't as sharp when you drink.

I think the court will rule for the casino because they are in the business of gambling and not babysitting adults.
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posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 10:46 AM
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It is illegal for a bar to allow a guest to "over consume". At least in the state of Texas.

So lets say you have a hotel with a bar. You have a guest get slobbering drunk in the bar. They go up to their room, pass out, and die from drowning on vomit. You wouldn't think that the hotel/bar would be responsible....but they are.

So why would the casino not be responsible for getitng patrons drunk just for the sake of raiding their pockets?



posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 10:49 AM
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bigfatfurrytexan
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It is illegal for a bar to allow a guest to "over consume". At least in the state of Texas.

So lets say you have a hotel with a bar. You have a guest get slobbering drunk in the bar. They go up to their room, pass out, and die from drowning on vomit. You wouldn't think that the hotel/bar would be responsible....but they are.

So why would the casino not be responsible for getitng patrons drunk just for the sake of raiding their pockets?


Because it's a slippery slope. Why shouldn't EVERY patron of these casinos who drinks and loses money not sue the casino?



posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 10:50 AM
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There is a reason the casino offers free drinks while you play, to get you drunk, so you DO spend more money. To bad this guy didnt know when to quit, Its his own fault, and he should have to pay for it, well I guess he ddid pay for it, and now will be paying for a legal team that wont get him his money back, this guys gonna lose twice. Sucks to be him



posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 10:54 AM
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I don't like gambling.
Not one bit. I don't know what it is, but it's just not for me. I don't feel any rush, just disappointment after wasting money.
I hope this guy loses (again).



posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 10:57 AM
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Legally, in Canada, an intoxicated person is not exactly liable for his actions......there is some wiggle room there.....
Don't know about Vega, but the video may be very revealing as to how he got so drunk in the first place.....
Vegas casinos get people drunk and roll them every day.....



posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 11:00 AM
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I honestly cannot believe this is the first time this has happened. Vegas has been around for a long time, so I would think some other complete moron has tried this.


He is an idiot.



posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 11:05 AM
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stirling
Legally, in Canada, an intoxicated person is not exactly liable for his actions......



I'd like to hear more about this. Care to elaborate?



posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 11:12 AM
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Yea, and I'm sure that will happen regardless of the court decision (win or lose)... You don't pull this type of crap and not expect to be banned from the casinos... One other thing for a lot of the readers in here who haven't been to Vegas before. Yes, they will bring you out free drinks when you are gambling, but a lot of those drinks are watered down, you can tell that a Vodka-Tonic or whatever your drink is always seems like its been sitting in a tub of ice for a while. So when you think you've had 8 drinks at the craps table, odds are you only had 3-4 and that's IF you had a generous bartender pouring you your drinks



posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 11:20 AM
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He won't win in Vegas. The town was built on casinos winning money.

But it is odd, the whole thing with drinking and who becomes responsible. I believe we all should be held accountable and responsible for our action.

But... You go to a bar and they serve you until they feel you are too drunk to serve so they kick you out. You have to jump in your car and drive home. I guess you don't "have" to but most places dont have cabs and busses.

I just find it at odds with the law, you cant stay here, you leave you are drunk in public or worse DUI. Of course you dont have to get that drunk at a bar and you shouldnt but it happens.

Of course the guy will lose his case and I'd bet it's not the first time it's happened. If he has enough money to get credit at the tables it isnt his first time gambling there.

If he does win I gotta whole lot of things I want do overs on because I was drunk



posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 11:24 AM
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Heaven forbid he take responsibility for his action.


So by his reasoning, a meth-fiend shouldn't be taken to jail when stealing because he was HIGH AS A KITE.

Idiot, I hope it haunts you forever.





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