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Putin Adviser Urges Dumping US Bonds In Reaction to Sanctions

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posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 04:37 PM
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I think that the bottom-line is that someone like Putin is a lot smarter than Obama and his advisors ever wish they could be. I think that the Obama administration has more than met their match with someone like Putin.




posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 04:40 PM
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Indigent
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So numbers are not good because its America, I wonder how good are the numbers in the 127/177 most corrupt country in the world.

Drink less of the cool aid, Russia depends of the western economy more than the west depends on Russia, if the dollar falls it would affect China too, from last year doom porn
China warns Washington to take quick action to avoid default on government debt

All is connected in this globalized world and Russia cannot take down US without completely destroy themselves, and perhaps even doing so they may not take down US, so again i wonder who would lose more if Russia stop selling gas/oil and dump the bonds.


I look at what is going on as one of those times while playing chess and you and your opponent trade pieces trying to be the last person to take a piece, or take the most pieces with the most value. You are both going to lose heavy, but the idea is to make the other person lose heavier. Unfortunately those pieces in this real world version of chess are REAL people. Ugh... There are no good guys in this conflict is right...



posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 04:49 PM
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Putin Adviser Urges Dumping US Bonds In Reaction to Sanctions...


'Putin adviser' is an imbecile since he does not understand the first thing about basic economics. Dump away cretins, dump away.



posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 04:56 PM
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Putin adviser must work for the CIA




After all it is always USA fault
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posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 05:02 PM
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Indigent
Putin adviser must work for the CIA




After all it is always USA fault


"Jagshemash! My name Putin, I like you! In my country we have something called 'economic', we use this to crush imperialist American Joos by selling things we purchase for less than payment. Wa-wa-wee-wa, they can kiss my chram. Dzienkuje!"



posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 10:44 PM
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Indigent
So numbers are not good because its America, I wonder how good are the numbers in the 127/177 most corrupt country in the world.


Let me teach you about critical thinking, they used to teach that in public schools but no longer.

According to those charts, US is one of the LEAST corrupt countries.

And yet, US congress does insider trading for years.

US government launches illegal invasions worldwide.

US government has a black budget financed by Heroin from Afghanistan, (do a search on ATS)

And you actually believe US is one of the least corrupt and Russia one of the most corrupt. Critical thinking is a wonderful thing if you acquire this skill.



posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 10:45 PM
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HeavenlyAngel
The question it is who has teach them to be corrupt.
And why...
"Divide et Impera?"


See post just above this one, things are worse than you know, THE CHARTS ARE LIES



posted on Mar, 6 2014 @ 11:47 PM
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AntiPrivateWestBankers

HeavenlyAngel
The question it is who has teach them to be corrupt.
And why...
"Divide et Impera?"


See post just above this one, things are worse than you know, THE CHARTS ARE LIES


According to your own data, Russia holds about 200 billion dollars worth of U.S. debt. Our national debt is a little over 17 trillion dollars, meaning that if we do the math, Russia holds about 1.0-1.5% of U.S. debt or thereabouts. Explain to me how selling off bonds that account for a ridiculously small amount of U.S. debt at below market price is going to destroy our economy? From where I'm sitting this sounds like a pretty empty threat.



posted on Mar, 7 2014 @ 12:27 AM
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Antonio1
According to your own data, Russia holds about 200 billion dollars worth of U.S. debt. Our national debt is a little over 17 trillion dollars, meaning that if we do the math, Russia holds about 1.0-1.5% of U.S. debt or thereabouts. Explain to me how selling off bonds that account for a ridiculously small amount of U.S. debt at below market price is going to destroy our economy? From where I'm sitting this sounds like a pretty empty threat.


I could go into great details explaining to you why US bond market is so fragile, and how Russian sale would end in panic on the US markets and selloff, along with significant fall of US dollar.

But instead, I will simply prove it to you like this. You Will NOT See US or Western Europe do Sanctions on Russia.

To put it simply. US government may be mean and evil, but they are not as stupid as they look.



posted on Mar, 7 2014 @ 01:56 AM
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To put it simply. US government may be mean and evil, but they are not as stupid as they look.


No they're not.

They just rely on their people and those of the rest of the world being as stupid as they hope.



posted on Mar, 7 2014 @ 03:16 AM
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Let me tell you something about critical thinking, you don't got it. Go live to Russia if you like it so much.

I don't need to as I have been in Cuba and Venezuela to know what is truly corrupt and yeah, numbers are good when you use it but not when someone else use them.

Do you have something to give other than your opinion on how a corrupt weak nation will bring down the #1-10 economy in the world including china (with the help of china according to you) to avoid sanctions?

Critical thinking
, let me know when you do regular thinking first



posted on Mar, 7 2014 @ 04:19 AM
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Honestly, some of you Americans make me laugh.

You really believe its your right to stick your nose in.

Forget the bonds, the economics etc.. just for once keep your nose out of another Countries affairs. Jeesh.

What is wrong with you people. I think your Country is that screwed up you need to oppress other people and their stable way of life (Or it was before you got there) to justify your existence.

"Its Americas way or the highway"

Sort your own problems out first please, there are many of them for you to go at.




posted on Mar, 7 2014 @ 05:12 AM
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You really believe its your right to stick your nose in.


Correction: It is Vladimir Putin who stuck his nose in. He will be lucky if his nose is not cut off and fed to the fish.



posted on Mar, 7 2014 @ 05:46 AM
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AntiPrivateWestBankers
...and how Russian sale would end in panic on the US markets and selloff, along with significant fall of US dollar.


Actually if they follow 'Putin adviser' and dump their bonds they would immediately be purchased by entities that understand how economics function in adult-land. You do not need an MBA to grasp simple supply and demand relationships.



posted on Mar, 7 2014 @ 06:54 AM
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Seems to me he his actually trying to protect his people and assets that are there legally, as opposed to invading yet another Country for its assets.

Oh, and screw the people whos lives you ruin in the process.

Libya, Egypt, Yemen, Syria - Need I go on?

What is wrong with the US Government and their puppets, the EU.

Makes me so angry.






posted on Mar, 7 2014 @ 06:57 AM
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Seems to me he his actually trying to protect his people and assets that are there legally, as opposed to invading yet another Country for its assets.


His assets were never under threat... until he tried to seize sovereign Ukrainian territory. He has violated the treaty that allowed him to use the Crimean bases, so he will have them stripped from him.



posted on Mar, 7 2014 @ 07:00 AM
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Libya, Egypt, Yemen, Syria - Need I go on?


what is this? countries supported by Russia at some point?

Why you don't also list ex communist block countries where old Russia poked his nose too,Chechnya? hypocrisy goes both ways you know
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Oh and did USA deployed 30k troops there for safe keeping purpose?
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posted on Mar, 7 2014 @ 07:08 AM
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I fully understand there all as bad as each other.

On this occasion I think Putin is right, just my opinion.

Russia arnt the enemy Obama etc make him out to be.

They have sat quiet for years building their economy and trading partners while the US and EU trot around the World taking over Countries for their own gain.

You must believe this is true? Because it is.

It has to end.

Clinton even liked Putin to Hitler? (At least his methods).

I am sure the American people would much rather their leaders (so called) put all this effort into sorting out America!

You must believe this also?




posted on Mar, 7 2014 @ 07:10 AM
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Indigent
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Libya, Egypt, Yemen, Syria - Need I go on?


what is this? countries supported by Russia at some point?

Why you don't also list ex communist block countries where old Russia poked his nose too,Chechnya? hypocrisy goes both ways you know
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Oh and did USA deployed 30k troops there for safe keeping purpose?
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Nah, too easy to see, they sent the muslim brotherhood, did you not know?



posted on Mar, 7 2014 @ 08:22 AM
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AugustusMasonicus
Actually if they follow 'Putin adviser' and dump their bonds they would immediately be purchased by entities that understand how economics function in adult-land. You do not need an MBA to grasp simple supply and demand relationships.


oooo La de daa

What do we have here, someone who knows a little something about US bond market.

Well, time to display my knowledge too since I used to be a financial analyst in Toronto.

FED has been buying their own bonds for the last 6 years. In fact the latest thing they did was lend money to Belgium of all places and have Belgium buy US bonds. FED uses a variety of smoke screens to shuffle newly created money around and buy US bonds.

In fact the entire Quantitative Easing is about printing new money and buying bonds and stocks.

Fed does about 60-80 billion a month, you need about 5 billion to send a market down 500 points in one day if you were to sell it as market order, at any price available. This has been proven with "fat finger" wall st mistakes over the years.

If Russians sold 200 billion, it would cause FED to engage "circuit breakers" which would have the whole world ask, WHY

It would cause a crash that would be precipitated by other players who would be nervous about what's happening.

COULD FED BUY THEM ALL OUT >>>>>>>> YES IN FACT THEY COULD >>>>>> AND US DOLLAR WOULD TUMBLE 40%





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